Train Sim World 2 - Tharandter Rampe: Dresden – Chemnitz First Look!

Discussion in 'Dovetail Live Article Discussion' started by DTG Jamie, Dec 17, 2021.

  1. Monder

    Monder Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that's a fine replacement I think. Although they probably never showed up on the service, there are no trains that did, so choosing the MRCE 182 is fine... now I just need to get HBK :D Hopefully, some fine discounts coming to Steam :D
     
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  2. joerg.lange

    joerg.lange Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Joethefish for your insights. I'm really glad that you worked on this route.
     
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  3. grob-e

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    Seems like in 2011/12 at least the EC 174/175 Budapest-Hamburg was driven by a MRCE 182 (despite a short time between 10.6.12 and 26.7.12, when this train was driven by a 120). So the MRCE 182 isn't an all wrong choice for these services.

    https://www.fernbahn.de/datenbank/suche/?zug_id=20120100174
     
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  4. Wolfovizer

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    This gives me even more appreciation for your timetables :)
     
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  5. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    But were the coaches on that train DB or OBB? The Austrians run most of the Eurocities to and from Germany from the south and southeast.
     
  6. Tahar_bej

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    I have traveld on that service (altough in 2019) it uses mainly CD and MÁV coaches. (This service runs through the Czech Republic and Slovakia) DB coaches are rare sight there but it is possible. I have never seen a ÖBB coach enter the Budapest Nyugati train station. All the services that uses ÖBB coaches use the Budapest Keleti train station.
     
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  7. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the insight and did the train had ÖBB 1216 Germany DB BR183 neu from Berlin Elsterwerda Dresden Schöna Decin Prague Brno Breclav Bratislava Budapest. Diversion is Decin (Bodenbach) Prag (Prague) Brünn (Brno) Lundenberg (Breclav) Wien Hbf Budapest. Another locomotive for that train & Tharandter Rampe is DB BR180 CZ 371/372.
     
  8. breblimator

    breblimator Well-Known Member

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    Interesting. & a good info.
    HRR is 90% off now on Steam.
     
  9. redrev1917

    redrev1917 Well-Known Member

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    On Wuppertal Hagen they modelled moving suspended railway carriages. By your logic I'll await the suspended railway DLC any day
     
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  10. Monder

    Monder Well-Known Member

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    Schwebebahn (the suspended railway on RRO) would make for a pretty cool DLC if made properly.
     
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  11. SHINO BAZ

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    There both different ones an animated moving suspended railway train but some what basic,the others a bunch of detailed passenger coaches that sit there and do nothing.
     
  12. BlaringHorn

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    How detailed are those coaches though? I can't tell much from the screenshot TBH. It would be great if they actually were fully modelled and functional, interiors and all. But other routes have had these static wagons (Sand Patch has a Chessie caboose) before.
     
  13. SHINO BAZ

    SHINO BAZ Well-Known Member

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    Don't forget the 3 static coaches/baggage cars parked at one of the stations on wsr,those 3 look terrible considering the fact that the coaches seen on the trains on the route are roughly the same cars.
     
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  14. Anthony Pecoraro

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    TS1 assets
     
  15. CK95

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    Which is pretty much what we told DTG to do in the first year of TSW 2, they asked if we would like to see less detailed static stock on routes, in order to give more life to the route, without taking too much of a hit in memory. We as a community collectively said yes to that.
     
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  16. SHINO BAZ

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    With the way things has been lately the whole memory issue is still a big issue with or without low rez coaches.
     
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    CK95 Well-Known Member

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    Well, my point was, that DTG asked, we collectively said yes, and now we have them, as requested.
     
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  18. Perks390

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    When the route releases, would it be at all possible for the timetable applicable to the route be shared? It would be very useful for reference.
     
  19. Joethefish

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    If it's anything like London to Brighton, it's likely not for me to distribute around unfortunately. Sorry :/
     
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  20. Tahar_bej

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    sorry for the late reply. I don't really know what locomotives are hauling this service between Pague and Hamburg since Prauge main station is a dead end. Between Prauge and Budapest they mostly use CD engines, I don't know the precise classification. (I have once seen a Slovakien loco in front of that train.).
     
  21. jolojonasgames

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    What I recall from my Dresden - Dečin suggestion is that the EC used to be hauled between Prague and Dresden by a multy system ČD class 371 or sometimes 372 locomotive, and between Dresden and Hamburg a BR 101 would be used. Nowadays it's usually a BR 193 Vectron leased by ČD from ELL that hauls the EC between Prague and Hamburg without a loco change at Dresden.
     
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  22. driverwoods#1787

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    371/372 can fit on Tharandter Rampe as the Red version DB BR180 as a scenario rail tour to Schöna with DR coaches
     
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  23. Turbojugend

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    I think I actually just shuddered. :D
     
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  24. dosto762

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    Wow, didn't know Czech AI services were going to get added. Very nice :). This is probably unlikely but will this add the option for a IC consist for the 182 in scenario planner?
     
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  25. bakedpotatos.jm

    bakedpotatos.jm Well-Known Member

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    You can find the timetables here for all routes. Not my work but a brilliant job by someone. Usually updated within 2 weeks once a new route comes out.

    https://smtimetables.herokuapp.com/route/61
     
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  26. Joethefish

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    Glad you like the sound of them! I don't think the timetable formations are considered by the scenario planner. But I don't know enough about scenario planner to say for sure.
     
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  27. docsnyder1911

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    Thanks for the info Joe.

    Sure that layers would be nice too for last gen. But even without that we will get enough variety in rolling stock at Tharandter Rampe even for last gen. And on the other side there is no IC traffic at Tharandter Rampe in real so that I will not miss it so much in the simulation.

    https://assets.static-bahn.de/dam/j...22-ergänzt ste-ro-jg - Schreibgeschützt.pdf

    And all the other trains I think can't compete with the 612 at this route if it is about speed. Because of it's tilting technology it should have by far the highest curve speeds at that route.
     
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  28. jeremy#2905

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    If they don’t fix the catenary on this route I’m definitely waiting for a sale, but if it releases with the catenary from the Meissen branch I’ll definitely buy it the day it comes out.
     
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  29. dosto762

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    Hopefully the developers will update the catenery like they did on Boston Sprinter. But I still will be buying Tharandter Rampe because of the BR 612
     
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  30. Mighy

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    I hope they did not weigh up: The 612 brings much more customers, than the crappy cantenary would loose...
     
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  31. grdaniel48

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    I agree with you.
    I prefer DTG fixes first lot of issues the routes and locomotives, trains and signals, than a cantenary or other "piece of the scenery" that it is just different to the real one, and does not affect the train "behavior" and driving experience.
     
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  32. Mighy

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    I'am sorry, but you missunderstood me... The comment is about what I am afraid of. But from the bussiness case I would understand such a descision. I still hope, that they will use the better cantenay model on the final product ;-) It still triggers me :D:D
     
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  33. carter

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    Watch the Q&A stream they’ll clear up about having different countries
     
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  34. carter

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    Why are there no s-bahn double Dekker‘s(Forgot how do you spell it)
     
  35. drnicktgm#1259

    drnicktgm#1259 Well-Known Member

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    What do you mean?
     
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  36. carter

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    There’s no S bahn livery.
     
  37. jolojonasgames

    jolojonasgames Well-Known Member

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    Because the route is set a few years back (2012 IIRC), and back then none of the Dostos had a S-bahn Dresden livery yet.
     
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  38. carter

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    Oh OK.
     
  39. Cramnor

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    Ooohhh, so excited, first preview stream this Thursday <3
     
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  41. meridian#2659

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    Where did you get that info?

    Nice, saw it right now. Tv update didnt appear.
     
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  42. jolojonasgames

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    Oohhh preview, exciting. Matt talked enthousiastically about the route on streams, and Maik worked on the BR 613, amd the route itself is quite interesting, so I have good expectations for this one :)
     
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  43. breblimator

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    At last \o/
     
  44. joerg.lange

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    That could mean... the second preview stream a week later and then shortly after (or on that day) the release. :D
     
  45. jolojonasgames

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    Yeah, next week thursday might very well be possible. I'm staying tuned for an article about that though :)
     
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  46. pipanminuta#9703

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    It will be amazing B-day present if releses 1 week from now but 100% wont happen
     
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  47. PegasusLeosRailwayFanatix

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    is anyone going to buy it on the first day of release? Is this also a full route? How many trainsets does this include? So excited for tomorrow stream, because its going to be the first time we will see a tilting train which more new tilting train coming this year hopefully. :):o
     
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  48. solicitr

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    I never buy anything at launch. Better to wait for the reviews and bug fixes.

    (Except the G6. I did that expressly to support Maik/TSG- also, I had confidence it would not be buggy).
     
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  49. meridian#2659

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    Ill get it instant like every dlc. The only exceptions are releases with serious concerns (br 187..for example).
     
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  50. matinakbary

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    Instant buy for me. You get the 612 and BR 143+Dostos and the timetable also has layers for the IC-Coaches + MRCE 182 and probably some Dresden-Riesa trains.
    solicitr since Maik worked on the 612, i guess you can expect similar quality as the ICE 3 or BR 101. 100% sure about that. Let's wait for the stream tonight.
     
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