Discussion in 'Dovetail Live Article Discussion' started by DTG Natster, Jul 21, 2021.
And having less content as well
Dlc for dlc is still the same thing. You cant spin it like it's not the same
Yes, some 8 (S2) and ~20 min ones (S1)
At least i Hope so
Here's a console based question:
Will the next-gen version of TSW2 have a separate set of achievements/trophies than the version on the base consoles? I've noticed that some PS5 titles have a separate trophy set to their PS4 versions.
probably just off to Reigate
That's a shame if it's just to Reigate.
8 and 20 minutes is not a lot. I really wanted those branches...
I never said it wasn't but it's a different scenario.
Unlike an extension - which could easily be released seperate and then merged - locos need a route first.
And other than that I simply corrected your mistake about DLGW
Just an extra to the Brighton Main Line, there are quite a few full Branches off that could of been included.
Purley to Caterham and Purley to Tattenham Corner. For example.
Apparently it's 2 miles with 1 station
It's not a different scenario. Dlc for dlc is the same concept for any additional content for said dlc wheather that be a new train or extension. Also to get full use our of dlgw, you need to buy dlc for dlc for dlc so I wasn't wrong on that either
Just noticed a recent new product in TS2021, yes it is the Reigate branch...
No. Read what I'm saying.
Route extensions would be DLC > DLC by choice. As they could be seperate then merged.
Locos need to be DLC > DLC.
I ain't denying that extensions (if they used the option we are discussing) would be DLC > DLC.
Also I'm curious as to why you think DLGW is a 3rd layer of DLC? It's only Two.
To get FULL use out of dlgw, you would have to own Northern Trans Pennine, the heavy freight pack as well
Just to Reigate
I don't quite understand what you are saying. A self expressed lover of German content (yourself), thinks that German content is "boring" and "like all others" just because it is A-B? As a lover of UK content Southeastern High Speed and London-Brighton are also "just" A-B and missing branches but they are still great routes. You shouldn't need the branches to make it exciting. Sure they are nice to have but not a "must have". Maybe this at least puts an end to the debate of which countries have the most interesting railways if A-B German routes are so terrible.
I'm just a bit miffed that they worded the announcement in such a way that it sounded like they were doing us a favour by making the bundle £10 more expensive when in reality that really wasn't the case. I've been a gamer since the late 70's and even though I've witnessed some very shady practices in that time I don't ever recall anyone publicly backtracking on a proposed release by splitting it into smaller pieces - and as you correctly pointed out removed key gameplay elements - in order to make a few extra pounds... It beggars belief.
Although I'm optimistic for a pricing reversal, sadly I don't think the branches will ever see the light of day because Naster has kind of implied that for some reason or other it's beyond the capabilities of DTG. Maybe they should have had a go at creating a multi-branch route before proclaiming it's imminent arrival.
A question about the new immersion controls. With the internal cab cameras being accessible again from the controller, the camera on those internal views needs to be freed up for full movement to make the camera views useful, or a cursor mode added to the new controller setup. At present in many cabs the cameras are fixed or only move side to side and no buttons or switches can be accessed in those views due to the cursor being fixed in the centre of the view on console. Can the internal cameras that are currently fixed be freed up to pan around or can we have a cursor mode to allow buttons etc to be accessed for the fixed camera views?
Right, but that's just an addition if you feel like it.
And that's not DLC > DLC > DLC, that's two loco bundles (one including a timetable) providing a (one-way) re-use of content.
Now that rush hour is split into 3 releases ehat happends to the preserved collection routes will they be a staggered release as well or will they all be avaible once the update and 1st route r released, as the day 1 promise dosent seem to fit the current schedule
The day 1 release of the core updates, as well as Pres. Collection will be Day one (with NEC)
Well that kind of is the issue. It's not just about it being A - B, it's more than that. Like all others it's a multi track electrified route. Like most others it has one max speed that stays the same for most of the route. Like all others it's set in the past 10 years. It has the same rolling stock as we already have with the current German routes.
Now each German route has something that sets it apart from just those issues I mentioned above. On HHL it's the full length services and interesting timetable, on RSN it's the freight focus with many speed limit changes, on MSB it's the gradients and banking engines, on HRR and RRO it's the split lines.
However, this route doesn't really offer that much, it has split lines, but will be the 3rd to do so, not really unique. It's 160 km/h section is a lot like HRR's fast track.
Now not everything is lost. Riesa - Dresden will still have HL signals, and it's timetable might still save it somewhat (though with such short S-bahn services that will be difficult), so it might not be terrible. However, the branches were really what got me and many others interested, with being able to change ends on them (something I liked about the HHL timetable) and the airport station bringing home the Rush Hour feeling. And for me there's a lot of dissapointment in that. It's not that I dislike the A-B routes, but I have 7 of them already, so the route loses a major selling point to me.
I'll see whether I'll buy it (I'm still very interested in NEC and BML, so who knows, I might get the bundle after all, depends on how much free time I have to kill), the route for me has lost the chance to be a flagship for this game that shows TS players TSW might be worth getting into.
I would really prefer BRD to be delayed and I want it to realise it's full potential! I love TSW for what it can be, and I really hope it will improve rather than stagnate at this level.
The core update which will include the preserved collection will come out with the Boston to Providence route as I think it's going to be the first route to release.
Does the increased draw distance and shadow detail apply to pc too?
The PC already has them.
I mean even more than currently.
Its still pathetically poor.
Question for the stream about the new controls: How will console players be able to take railfan shots, when the new shift button will be the same button that is used for taking railfan shots? (Square button on Ps and X button on Xbox)
The simple fact that it's not the price, or staggered release thats really an issue.
It is the fact we have been told if its not in writing it's not happening over and over.
Well this was in writing both the price and details of the branches in Dresden on the official DTG Rush Hour FAQ for over 2 months.
So the thing that upsets me is that it turns that even if something is in writing (and I'm not talking Road Map as we all have been told those can change) on an official promo page run by DTG it can change at any moment. Plus articles promoting the diversity of services from the branch lines to create a fun and new experience on TSW. It all means nothing.
So if something in writing can just be changed whats to say when I purchase this Season Ticket and the 1st route gets released they don't announce other changes after I'm locked in?
Sorry we decided to cut the parallel high speed line from the Dresden route.
Why have they added a turnaround branch at Redhill and changed the name to "London Commuter" ? Could it be that after NEC gets released they are going to say we have run out of time so we are going to cut out Gatwick to Brighton? Are they getting ready to implement this as backup plan because it is not going as well as they hoped?
What can we trust and why would I prepay for routes that I don't know if the write up or details I've been given are being taken away after my purchase. What guarantees are there.
It like they have a Ferrari in the show room and are advertising it for sale, but upon closer look it's really a Toyota MR2 in a Ferrari kit. Oh and the price just went up too..would you still buy it?
When can existing players expect to be permitted the privilege of actually playing the latest version of the game that's initially being locked away on EGS?
And how do you justify a price increase for RH, while new players can get the base game (also with three routes) for free via the EGS?
I'm not saying 40 euros for three routes isn't a bargain, but you have to think about how all the actions this week impact your existing playerbase.
Didn't know that, but it is a great addition, really appreciate it.
So for todays stream, which covers immersion, can we please have this improved accelerometer (with two colours) for all DLC? Even better, drop the ball and replace it by a straight line.
Does DTG not believe in quality over quantity? So many routes have been released in a state where just a bit more work would have worked wonders to raise the bar. Delays aren’t unwelcome or uncommon in this industry.
This is a excellent question and one I would very much would like to see an answer to as well.
PS5 and Xbox Series consoles- will the textures also be upgraded to a higher resolution?
Some of the last gen console textures are very low res (especially in the cab) and look awful on the new consoles.
Ist das der Todesstoß für jeglichen Multiplayer?
Epic ist noch nie für Multiplayer bekannt gewesen. Ruhe in Frieden, RIP
Is that the death knell for any multiplayer? Epic has never been known for multiplayer. Rest in peace, RIP
That is true of absolutely every route with layers. One doesn't get "full use" (in your term) of HMA either without also owning several other German routes.
DLGW's content runs just fine on GWE. Additional content, you have to buy separately. Duh.
epic help DTG?
There wouldn’t be much point in including any more of it, unless they plan on doing the entirety of the north downs line
I don’t understand this statement… I have played multiplayer games on epic, and they also have cross-platform multiplayer games.
DTG Question: Do you think it's time to bring your staff back into the office instead of working from home. It would seem "This Morning", "Homes under the hammer" and "Tenable" are too much of a distraction
Given the significant issue there are now already with releasing updates, how much harder will it if the Epic Game Store is added as a new platform, with a different organization? What do you to to avoid complete chaos and still fix the many issues with existing content? I had a lot of trust in DTG despite all mistakes and broken promises, but I am loosing my confidence with these new stunts.
What routes are on Deluxe edition included?
I wonder what the reason is why it got removed, but I really hope that it's a mistake or that it will be added later, because for me that's the best part on the route, but they also said something that there is a high speed section, how fast can the trains go on there?
The max speed on the 'high speed' section is 160 km/h as far as I know.
This "fault" is the best accelerometer in the game now. A simple upgrade made the thing a whole lot more useful. So don't apologise. Accept our thanks
Sorry Jannerdunk just copied your quote over from another reply:
But I think this is an important question for future releases. I don't want to have the possibility to miss out on any future releases or need to wait because of some exclusivity agreement for one or the other?
It is understandable for the kickoff release of TSW2 but for future releases I wouldn't be to happy with it...
DTG can you guarantee that the other 2 routes will be coming out as planned and not shortened like the Riesa- Dresden route has been now and how long do we need to wait between each route being released ?
I have to confess I wasn't that bothered about RH and the three routes even less. I wanted the 313 but I'm pissing in the wind with that, I didn't bother with Cathcart either and I only buy British routes.
Then they announced all 3 routes for £24.99 and as I am interested in the Brighton route I thought I could purchase that and delete the other two routes but then they upped the price to £35! Don't get me wrong, I was pleased that they were offering separate routes but a bit miffed Brighton was the last one.
What got me is what DTG are doing to the German route, cutting it like that. It doesn't affect me but we are a community and doing that seems a bit low especially with the price hike. One minute we are getting three full routes with branches for £24.99 the next we are getting a cut down version for £10 more, it is not just the cost but principle too.
We heard from previous streams how much of a 'breeze' converting to the new version of the engine and the whole team have been working on RH for months now but they are struggling now with their own deadline? Haven't a lot of staff been on holiday? Wouldn't it had been better to wait untill after release?
I have a fix for you, concentrate on the Brighton route and release that first or with the US route too if ready then delay the German route slightly and include the Branch line you cut and everyone will be happy again, I would lower the price to what you said the first time but that's me.
QUESTION for the stream: RD support for the 166 and HST when? Date for release of RH, when? Saying summer is not good enough, I don't expect an exact date but something like mid August would be nice.
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