Train Sim World - Roadmap Update 16/11/2021

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  1. DTG Natster

    DTG Natster Producer Staff Member

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    MicrosoftTeams-image (2).jpg Read the article here.
     
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  2. Challenger3985

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    Wow, that quick. Now I really can't wait to see this route in action.
     
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  3. fabristunt

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    Arosa timetable finallly on the roadmap! Finally, after almost a year of complaining!
     
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  4. mldaureol2

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    Arosa line Timetable update looks interesting.
    Mike.:)
     
  5. Trenomarcus

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    "Also added to the Roadmap this week is that Rivet Games are working on upgrades to the Arosa Linie timetable. This is in direct response to feedback received from players."

    DIRECT response. You guys are funny sometimes.

    Would have been nicer something like: "Rivet Games is finally working on the fix for the broken timetable since release. We are sorry that it took so long. We will make sure this will not happen again in the future".
     
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  6. Mat_Jam_Ca

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    Eager to hear what Matt will tell us about the PS5 fixes. Interestingly, it’s mentioned that Rivet Games is improving the Arosa Timetable based on feedback. But what about all the IoW feedback - including timetable issues on that route? Is it just being left to rot in the salty sea air?
     
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  7. Sharon E

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    Nice to see that Sherman Hill is probably coming in the next several weeks. Looking forward to its release and then Horseshoe Curve maybe in December?
     
  8. Cramnor

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    Again no addition of the next UK route :(
     
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    Sherman Hill 11.25 day
     
  10. stujoy

    stujoy Well-Known Member

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    Don’t be so sad, it’s probably the steam route that’s in planning.
     
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  11. antwerpcentral

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    Not much moving up it seems.
     
  12. stujoy

    stujoy Well-Known Member

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    Tonight’s stream is going to be essential viewing. The first PS5 limit fix explanation and Arosa timetable fix explanation and no doubt some more bits and bobs explained.
     
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  13. fabristunt

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    Let me correct you. Rivet is not improving the timetable. They have to fix it because is broken beyond repair now. It isn't going to be an upgrade, but a very late day one patch.

    Moreover, I hope they also fix the jumping train.
     
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  14. Mat_Jam_Ca

    Mat_Jam_Ca Well-Known Member

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    I stand corrected. It’s mad it’s taken them so long to address it. Rivet’s after care is almost non-existent.
     
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  15. OnlyMe1909

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    Questions for tonight's stream:

    1. When will you release additional (separate) timetables with the missing layers on gen8 consoles for HMA and London Commuter. We've been waiting for more than a year now in the case of HMA.
    2. Matt once mentioned DTG is looking into a system of mounting/unmounting DLC's. If this were to be implemented, please make sure to construct the UI in such a manner that, when one mounts a certain route, the system automatically selects all other (available) DLC needed to unlock all layers on said route.
     
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  16. Anthony Pecoraro

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    Nice to see Sherman Hill in next arrival. However, that does probably mean a Thanksgiving release date...
     
  17. Mat_Jam_Ca

    Mat_Jam_Ca Well-Known Member

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    Unless performance is dramatically improved on the PS5, I can’t see how the older consoles could ever possibly run the added layers for those routes missing them. The PS5 can’t even run the Rush Hour routes without stuttering and crashing and that has double the RAM and way more processing power than the PS4 Pro, not to mention the standard PS4. There is also a lot of stuttering on non-Rush Hour routes in the PS5 version of the game, which suggests it is badly optimised for the platform to say the least.
     
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  18. Krazy

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    Funny how we keep on getting American releases on Thanksgiving. I’m completely fine with that, as that gives me a longer weekend to enjoy the route. Because heck yeah, it’s Sherman Hill!

    Horseshoe Curve moving down is a smart choice. No need to release two American freight routes so close together, perhaps give it a spot after the Chemnitz route.

    And the Arosalinie timetable… finally. If they fix that and the jumping loco physics, maybe I’ll actually consider getting the route.
     
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  19. Blacknred81

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    Well, looks like Sherman Hill sped thru the roadmap pretty fast.

    Yet. Still no new loco DLCs in the pipeline.

    If there is one question I would like to see answered on the roadmap stream, is why the red side stripe, and not the post 2005 FRA mandated yellow striping on the SD70ACe.
     
  20. Lamplight

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    Yep. I'm looking forward to hearing what's happening and what's planned. While I haven't had to delete anything yet, I never downloaded BML despite owning it (via season ticket) simply because I didn't want to add to my DLC size.
     
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  21. erg73

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    Finally the Arosa timetable is going to be fixed! It's good that they're finally going to do it, I had little hope.
    I would like Rivet to fix the broken sounds on that route as well, for example:
    -Wipers volume absurdly high.
    -The horn is heard at the same volume a metre or a kilometre away from the train.
    -Same volume with the windows open or closed.
    -The absence of ambient sounds.
    -The sound of the locomotive is not heard, only the sound of the carriages.
    And others that I don't even remember because I haven't played this route for months due to the large number of errors.

    On the other hand I'm looking forward to finally know the remedy for the Ps5 limit, I'm glad to see that the preservation updates for my beloved RSN are near. And also the PC ones, I think it will be time to revisit this route and buy the Baby Bullet, which also looks like it will have a life in Oakville.

    No word on the release of the G6, I hope it doesn't get delayed too much because I can't wait to enjoy it.
     
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  22. Mat_Jam_Ca

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    Don’t get excited until you see what they’ve done to fix it. They might well fail to do so, or even introduce new issues.
     
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  23. Snek

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    Sadly still no new DTG loco add-ons in sight, even tho no new ones have been added since the very first roadmap. Looks like DTG prefers to just pump out new routes every month instead. :(
     
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  24. TinTin_57

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    Looking forward to the PS5 DLC limit information. Sadly I have played a lot less recently due to not having everything available
     
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  25. bart2day

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    Wow. Not a single piece of UK DLC on the roadmap for the first time ever. Shame on you Dovetail being a UK developer.
     
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  26. Anthony Pecoraro

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    There is more to the world than the UK
     
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  27. junior hornet

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    Probably when Microsoft/Sony upgrade everyone's hardware for free to Gen 9 spec. There's no point in having separate timetables because they would have to remove the existing trains from these timetables which defeats the object.
     
  28. marcsharp2

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    Nothing for the UK in planning or Production, Ah well, it'll be a while till my wallet opens again lol.
     
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  29. junior hornet

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    Ah, but is there? I reckon ( with no evidence whatsoever :D ) that Spirit of Steam could be hiding one.
     
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  30. bart2day

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    There is more to the world than the US or Germany but they still have DLC on the roadmap.
     
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    Putting two and two together and getting two two, which sounds like choo choo, I arrive at the following conclusion…

    no UK content + no loco DLC = first steam release is the next UK route, rammed with locos and rolling stock.
     
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  32. Rudolf

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    Still no Dutch route in planning. This far worse than the omission of the next UK route. You got one two weeks ago.
     
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  33. dhekelian

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    And if DTG had been a US developer what do you think the backlash would be if they had not released any US routes? DTG go out there way for foreign routes albeit from the same countries isn't reasonable that as a UK developer there shouldn't be some indication of UK stuff?

    Questions for tonight stream:

    Adam said last week that he and his team have fixed/updated all but 6 routes for the preserved routes and all the information we get is 'still ongoing', isn't it about time we got some sort of timeframe for these releases?

    I'm still waiting for RD support on the GWE and with DTG saying it is 'straight forward to add RD support' it makes it all frustrating. I like many other people have invested loads in TSW2 when do the older routes get their fixes for older routes?

    You said in the stream that the Xbox got a texture update, and rightly so, so you can push out these 'fixes' when you want so what is the excuse this time? If you are not going to release anything for the older preserved routes please say so and I will gladly move on to something else.
     
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    Spot on. If DTG was a US developer we'd only be getting US routes.
     
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  35. Mitchellman151

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    [Loco Add-On] DGG-L6 02 - G6 (Rhein-Ruhr Osten) - Developed by TSG
    • [Loco Add-On] DBB-L5 01 - DB BR 420 Electric Multiple Unit (Hauptstrecke München-Augsburg) - Developed by TSG
    • [Loco Add-On] DDD-L5 01 - DB BR 232 Diesel Locomotive (Ruhr-Sieg Nord) - Developed by TSG
     
  36. Challenger3985

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    What he meant was US loco DLCs. There's already enough UK and German Loco add-ons (especially in the Roadmap) so far. US locos, not so much lately.
     
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  37. Monder

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    You had four UK releases 2, 3, 5 and 6 weeks ago. Quality of some aside UK has been the most spammed country in the last two months, so give them some breather, UK fans. The world is not going to implode with a UK DLC-missing roadmap.
     
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  38. byeo

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    Does DTG still utter the line "if it's not on the road map it's not being worked on"? If so, that's a complete lie as Sherman Hill is in "Next Arrival"...
     
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  39. dhekelian

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    In your opinion.
     
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  40. antwerpcentral

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    Why the bellybutton staring? The game is called Train Sim World. It's not called Train Sim UK. DTG is located on planet Earth so we don't need more UK routes, we need more routes that justify the word "world" in their brand name.
     
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  41. mattchester#9176

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    Seems like a pretty good update,

    Pros:
    1. PS5 DLC Fix hopefully coming soon (even if it is only part one)!
    2. Arosa finally getting much needed attention
    3. New route coming out soon!
    Cons:
    1. Seems to still be taking ages to get preservation updates out.
    2. Less focus on Rush Hour fixes, particually BML crashes / poor frame rates.
    3. No talk of the many 4.26 issues with broken scenario's and timetables runs due to red signals in older routes.
     
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    Belly button what? hahahha. No-one is suggesting there shouldn't be more routes from different countries it just would of been nice to hear something in the planning stage. Again if DTG had been a US or Germany company I doubt the UK would get a look in. Look at transport fever the title does not come into it.

    Saying that all I want is the GWE to be updated with RD support and if we got that you can have North Korea routes for all I care.
     
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    When will we get the preservation update for Peninsula Corridor?
     
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    The top bulk of text above the list of roadmap specifics...
    "The upgrade to Unreal Engine 4.26 has not been without its difficulties. We are continuing to resolve problems that have come up not least of all with regard to overall performance. ... Meanwhile, we are continuing to work on improving frame rate and performance."

    It seems they're lumping it all in that morass
     
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    Jesus, some of you need to take a step back and realize another 2 weeks without the knowledge of something being worked on is not the end of the world......
     
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    I'm also interested in that, but hopefully the long wait means it gets tested properly and it actually worths the wait.
     
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    Disappointed to see there's still no news of a new UK route. I assume the next one is Spirit of Steam, which means it'll probably be a very long time until there's a modern British route I'll actually be excited for as I have little interest in driving steam.

    I find it very hard to get excited for roadmaps when there are no add ons that interest me. I'll probably tune in to the stream though just to see what to expect from these PS5 fixes.
     
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    Isn't the issues with other countries routes and loco licensed related or research related? To get a Dutch route you'll need an abellio licenses?

    I would like to see another french route!

    Also we don't know what's deep in production or in the planning as Sam said on average a route takes 9 months to complete
     
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    Also curious about the Penn Corridor update release. Will it release like previous preserved crew updates or is it getting wrapped into how the preserved crew is refocusing how they work?

    Also, why are you planning a big US route release on a major US holiday for the second year in a row? (Going by it being in next arrival, not coming this week, and next roadmap is the 30th, leaving only Thanksgiving week).
     
  50. antwerpcentral

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    Sure a UK route would be nice but claiming a German or US company would not put UK routes in is BS. There probably would be less, but there probably would have been more international routes.
     

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