Ts22 - Bnsf Routes Releasing Worldwide

Discussion in 'Dovetail Live Article Discussion' started by DTG Jamie, Dec 8, 2021.

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  1. some random railfan

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    its also in cajon pass, I was in a vpn browser, I could see it when I wasn't logged in.
     
  2. torfmeister

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    The US Loco&Asset Pack is shipped together with Cajon Pass. Other routes also use it, so they are common assets.
     
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  3. hayward.john48

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    I don't understand what the problem is - there is plenty of NS branded stuff in the game - see N Line, Penn Coal as examples. I cannot see that DTG are going to "brand" the Black SD40-2, that is extremely hopeful to say the least. If you want a branded NS SD40-2 you're gonna have to buy it.
     
  4. torfmeister

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    No problem, just a bit of geek stuff ;). Nobody really wants to use those old locos... but... well... at least the brakes do work :D
     
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  5. hayward.john48

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    Oh, I spy with my little eye.....;)
     
  6. Michael Newbury

    Michael Newbury Well-Known Member

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    I also found and have added to my wishlist the CSX ES44AC Add-on Livery, CSXSD70MAC Add-on Livery
     
  7. hayward.john48

    hayward.john48 Well-Known Member

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    There's more to this "licensing" than meets the eye, methinks.
     
  8. Rob Jansen

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    There has been a new release of additions for the US packages, but 2 items are still 'unbranded', because the branded assets are in a different DLC which is NOT linked, this should be fixed asap.

    The following are now linked to outside of the US accounts:
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    Let's go through each of them:

    The Racetrack: Aurora - Chicago Route Add-On
    There are now 3 DLC linked:
    - 258648: The Racetrack: Aurora - Chicago Route Add-On (this contains the route, assets)
    - 325966: Racetrack ROW Livery package (unbranded assets)
    - 325967: Racetrack USA Livery package (branded assets)

    Inside both the ROW and USA pack are the same file names, so if you have it installed already, untick BOTH livery package, wait for Steam to update and the tick the USA only, otherwise Steam won't update the file and leave the ROW intact (unbranded):
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    Clear Creek Narrow Gauge Route Add-On
    There are now 3 DLC linked:
    - 325976: Clear Creek Narrow Gauge Common Route Add-On (this contains the route, assets)
    - 376947: Clear Creek ROW Livery Pack (unbranded)
    - 376948: Clear Creek USA Livery Pack (branded)

    Inside both the ROW and USA pack are the same file names, so if you have it installed already, untick BOTH livery package, wait for Steam to update and the tick the USA only, otherwise Steam won't update the file and leave the ROW intact (unbranded):
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    But now we see the next DLC still missing. The "Old Timers Pack", which still isn't linked yet.
    - 448196: Clear Creek Old Timers Pack US Livery Pack
    Should be linked.

    Raton Pass: Trinidad - Raton Route Add-On
    There are now 3 DLC linked:
    - 704250: Raton Pass: Trinidad - Raton Route Add-On (this contains the route, assets)
    - 704280: Product ThreeHundredThirtyFour (unbranded)
    - 704281: Product ThreeHundredThirtyFive (branded)

    Inside both the Four and Five pack are the same file names, so if you have it installed already, untick BOTH ThreeHundredThirty packages, wait for Steam to update and the tick the ThreeHundredThirtyFive only, otherwise Steam won't update the file and leave the Unbranded intact (unbranded):
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    Arizona Divide: Winslow - Williams Route Add-on
    Well, this one has a problem, as it seems that the main route/assets are published TWICE, which are linked, but the branding is still USA only.

    - 1515064: Arizona Divide: Winslow - Williams Route Add-on (USA version)
    - 1560930: Arizona Divide: Winslow - Williams Route Add-on (ROW version)
    - 151066: Arizona US Assets
    - 151067: Arizona ROW Assets

    This means that DTG still has to link: 151066 to ROW accounts as seen here, still only ROW is linked, you can do it yourself, by re-buying the DLC.
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  9. Rob Jansen

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    Second post, as images are restricted to 5.

    Montana Hi-Line: Shelby - Havre Route Add-On

    Well, this one has a problem as well, as it seems that the main route/assets are published TWICE, which are linked, but the branding is still USA only.

    - 1055338: Montana Hi-Line: Shelby - Havre Route Add-On (USA version)
    - 1147154: Montana Hi-Line: Shelby - Havre Route Add-On (ROW version)
    - 1147150: Arizona US Assets
    - 1147151: Arizona ROW Assets

    This means that DTG still has to link: 151066 to ROW accounts as seen here, still only ROW is linked, you can do it yourself, by re-buying the DLC.
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    DTG Jamie DTG JD DTG Natster could this be fixed by DTG so that the branding for:
    - Clear Creek Old Timers Pack
    - Arizona Divide: Winslow - Williams
    - Montane Hi-Line: Shelby - Havre

    This means linking the following DLC items (Steam App ID's)
    - 448196
    - 1515066
    - 1147150

    Are in the hands of who bought them? :)
     
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    Hi Rob

    I own Arizona Divide. How do I go about re-purchasing it? Do I physically have to pay money again for an item I own?
     
  11. hayward.john48

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    Why do you want to re-purchase. The changes are updates.
     
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    Rob said, and I quote "This means that DTG still has to link: 151066 to ROW accounts as seen here, still only ROW is linked, you can do it yourself, by re-buying the DLC."
     
  13. hayward.john48

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    Wait and save your money, it is DTG’s responsibility.
     
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    I would not re-purchase it, it has been reported and it is going to be looked into it.
     
  15. Cyclone

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    Just want to verify that this is indeed accurate. Look here and notice the US assets are only in one package, not added to the ROW one which would otherwise have the same name.

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    I presume this is also the case with Montana Hi-Line. As for the Old Timers pack, it will not be updated yet. It falls in the category of other rolling stock packs and will be updated with those, as would the Clear Creek Log & Lumber Pack. Though I do agree, they should have been updated now since they have US and ROW variants. Source: the US version is still not readily available worldwide.
     
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  16. Rob Jansen

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    As you can read above, it was not linked properly ;)

    For both the Arizona and Montana Hi-Line, DTG did released 4 'dlc' each instead of the regular '3'.
    - 2 times the route package
    - 1 US branding
    - 1 ROW branding

    But they only added the route package, which doesn't included the package ID where the link has been made for the branding patch.
    They have given everyone outside of the USA access to the main package, but as the only added the route DLC, the branding patch wasn't included.

    As with the other routes, there was just 1 main package and both branding patches and they just updated the 'package' to include the branding DLC and you were good to go.
    But it seems because the method for releasing these two routes were different, they probably did only linked the route and presumably incorrectly thought it was linked to the branded package to.
     
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    To back this up, I had a US code for Arizona Divide and it did work. So yes, you CAN purchase the US route. The error, therefore, is that existing ROW buyers can't get the US assets. They are not approved to get the package containing them like with Tehachapi Pass. It also means the Tehachapi scenario pack still has some unbranded trains in scenarios.
     
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    You are not able to re-buy something you already own.
     
  19. Cyclone

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    Fantastic point. Racetrack in US form shows as owned by me. I do not know if this is the case for the US Arizona Divide or Montana Hi-Line as I activated those after the change.
     
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    It should be the same across the board you would not be able to re-purchase what you already own. I will not get a chance until this evening to recheck and see if those routes are branded for me. If not I will submit a ticket to DTG for them to resolve.
     
  21. torfmeister

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    The mistake they made is adding the US base route app (which is exactly the same as the ROW one) instead of releasing the US assets app.

    So the rest of the world got 1515064 instead of 151066. Same for Montana. Instead of two routes we should have two asset packs to chose from..
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    So we now got this, which seems to be a wrongly bundled package.
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    DTG Jamie This way we cannot get the US assets as it is still only included in the US base package, which only US customers have.
     
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  22. Cyclone

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    OK, let's not keep pinging poor Jamie here. He didn't make the mistake. The person responsible for the store did. And a pretty embarrassing one, at that. JD I am sure is already aware, and I took the opportunity to add to my Cajon question to Matt from last nite's stream by also DMing him these posts for action by...someone. I'm sure this will be fixed.
     
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    :) Yes, this is in no way to annoy Jamie. But as we've shown where the mistake is it'll make it easier for them to fix it.
    If it was my piece of software I'd be glad having users helping to find the mistake.
     
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    Agreed this is not A Jamie issue, hopefully the issue can be resolved.
     
  25. torfmeister

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    Racetrack question to US players

    While the BNSF logos are there, the Metra logos are not. Were they ever included in the US release or has everybody just been using the freeware logo patch ever since?

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  26. Cyclone

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    I don't think Metra was ever willing to let their logos be used. The add-on trains for the Miami route fell into the same predicament, hence why they are named the way they are.
     
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    Negative, Metra never granted DTG licensing rights.

    There is a free patch that adds them in on RWA: https://railworksamerica.com/index....1858:metra-signage-logos&catid=24:accessories

    Other NA operators that fall under this category are....

    Metrolink
    Coaster
    Tri-Rail
    MARC
     
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    Thanks, I was suspecting this but saw workshop scenario images containing them. So I'll keep the logo patch.
     
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  29. Cyclone

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    Think I'll pick that up now that my Racetrack is in its Final Form.

    ...though it looks not like System\CMT\, but instead System\TexturesCMT\ - was this an error in the Readme, or should the folder be renamed? Based on this, it looks correct:

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    I say just unzip it and try that, if that doesn't work, do as the readme says.
     
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    Yup, the Metra Signage and Logos pack works like a charm ;)
     
  32. Cyclone

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    Well, the folder in the AP file says TexturesCMT, and the folder in the Metra logo set is TexturesCMT. I'm going to assume this is accurate.
     
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    Hi all, so The Racetrack: Aurora - Chicago, Clear Creek Narrow Gauge, Raton Pass: Trinidad - Raton have now released to get these to work untick BOTH USA and ROW wait to update the click USA. Clear Creek Old Timers Pack will release in another batch soon, and the routes , Montana Hi-Line: Shelby - Havre & Arizona Divide: Winslow - Williams are now being looked into and will update you all when I have more information on them.
     
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    Cheers Jamie. Here again is the pictoral guide that Rob Jansen posted for the ones that have updated, among everything else.
     
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    Thanks Jamie but for me of the 3 you listed I followed your instructions for the first two but when I got to Raton Pass there is a issue. There is no USA or ROW to untick.
     
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    I keep referring to Rob's post. He already covered this. Read his instructions.

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    ThirtyFive is the one you eventually want to keep. DTG could fix the numbering on these in the store to make it clearer.

    Meanwhile, if you buy Raton today, this is all you get:

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    The "Product ThreeHundredThirtyFive" is a name DTG gives each product when adding a new DLC to fill in later.
    But they never changes some of the names, the person who is responsible for Steam content can just update the name in the settings of the Steam Store page for the product.
     
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    On a side note, with Clear Creek and Raton Pass being branded worldwide now, can we get them removed from the list of products not allowed in Screenshot contests?
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    On that subject, the Berkshire is available worldwide as well.

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/208348/Train_Simulator_NKP_S2_Class_Berkshire_Loco_AddOn/

    So is Fort Kent to Eagle Lake.

    Portland Terminal and the North Bessemer route unfortunately might have to be banned still despite freeware versions. The freeware Maine Maritime changes an SD40 for a GP40, in fact.
     
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    Fort Kent? What was the issue with this? Afaik it wasn't locked.
     
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    Correct, it's always been available.
     
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    Props to DTG, it has been fixed for the Arizona Divide and the Montana Hi-Line routes.

    As with previous DLC, untick BOTH the ROW and US assets and then only tick US assets to get the branding.

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    Cajon is still MIA for ROW. Glad these are fixed so far!
     
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    Raton Pass should be the last unbranded route to rebrand.

    The rest, Cajon Pass and the loco packs, should be just a matter of removing the restriction flags in Steam.
     
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    Raton is already done.
     
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    Just found it, thx

    So, that was some Monday, DTG. A big Thank You is going out!:)
     
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    That one worked on Saturday.;)
     
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    But today they fixed all of the branding issues.

    Again thank you DTG. Give your employees a day off, Mr. Jackson!:D
     
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    indeed they did. All they need now is Cajon and routes are covered. We won't discuss Portland Terminal or Bessemer Lake Erie, different problem...
     
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    For Montana and Arizona I am only seeing the ROW and not seeing the USA as of yet.
     

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