Dovetail Games Tsw January 2025 Roadmap Q&a Thread

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  1. DTG Alex

    DTG Alex Senior Community Manager Staff Member

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    Hello everyone - It's roadmap day!

    Read our January 2025 Roadmap article

    Tonight we will be hosting our January 2025 Roadmap livestream, so we wanted to share our Q&A thread to gather community questions together for us to answer in both written and vocal form.



    If you have any questions you'd like to ask us, please post them here. General reminder to please keep all other discussions out of this thread, and remain to questions only. :)

    We may not answer all questions on the article/stream, but we will look through this thread in preparation and will look to respond to questions afterwards.
     
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  2. samuelpower2001

    samuelpower2001 Well-Known Member

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    How far in development is the ats route? Last time it was in 0 to 3 months section. Also has work only just began on the Cardiff route or are them greyscale images from earlier in development?
     
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    I have not really had any crashes but I have had fps drops. What is the reason behind this. Additionally on wcml,why do safety system alerts not come through controller despite active,
     
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    Can you detail exactly what fixes we are getting later this month or is it too early?
     
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    Or even just some things that it is hoped the update will fix.
     
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    My laptop meets the recommended specs for TSW5, but performance at big stations like Frankfurt is very bad. Can I expect new these routes such as these to run better?
     
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    Outside of the performance optimisations for WCMLS which are listed in the roadmap, will WCMLS it be receiving further timetable updates and further improvements once issued are identified and fixed?

    Is it a realistic expectation for the PFR 104 to be released this year as it's been on the roadmap for an incredibly long time?

    Will the 378 have layering abilities/substitute for the existing LO routes in the game? (Watford DC lines & GOBLIN)

    Do we have a timeframe when the Fife Circle will get the 158 time table improvements?
     
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  8. Myron

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    that is not a roadmap related question
     
  9. MrSouthernDriver

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    Oh shoot, forgot this was a Q&A thread. :D

    for the Athena rail tour pack, it seems the locos look reused from NTP, is this the case?
     
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    Has the (I assume suspension-related) bug where the 185 is unable to get moving backwards been fixed for the Mannheim-Kaiserslautern version?

    According to the article, the 406 "has been improved to bring it up to the standards of the DB BR 403 ICE seen in Kassel-Würzburg". That would mean no suspension, no new rain effects etc. - surely it's been brought up to TSW5 standards?
     
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  11. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

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    I am a bit confused about the following:
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    It's clear to me and nice from the team to having upgraded the ICE 3M to the latest ICE 3 standards seen from Kassel-Würzburg, however, the question is: is the new braking thing entirely new for Ludwigsbahn's ICE 3M, or is it about the same as KWG's ICE 3?
     
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  12. FreddieTheShepherd

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    Some questions about the PC Editor:
    1. One point that keeps me frustrating a bit in the last time is, that the Expert BR 101 and the Niddertalbahn with all their assets don't seem to load with a cooked mod. Are they both locked for loading into the game or will the new Mod Manager look into this?
    2. Speaking of - what exactly is a Mod Manager for TSW? What benefits will give it us modders and mod-users?
    3. Will the loading in of custom Mods/Plugins be improved, or will we even get a tutorial about that?
     
  13. Myron

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    Surely they just mean mostly visual things and some internal other things, but other new things like suspension should still be added as it's sold in a TSW5 DLC
     
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    Someone has copied and pasted from last years text regarding Thomas as it refers to "next year" which would mean 2026!
    On the subject of Thomas, please feed back why a toy train is being deployed on a real route rather than its own custom world or layout? Incongruous at best.

    Are there any plans to revisit steam traction generally now TTTE is coming to TSW, both in terms of buffing the existing experience and new proper steam content?

    As regards the rest, well the Kinzig route probably as miss, nothing that current German routes don't already offer.

    Would have been nice to see more on the Cardiff route which is presumably still a long way off?

    Still little more than platitudes regarding the many issues the core game is experiencing, particularly performance and sound glitches.

    Can the EP please comment where we are with regard to the save game, following undertakings made a few weeks ago to look at the number of save slots and finally fix the bug where saving on a subsequent train you take over returning to free roam will not load the objective data?

    As usual these questions are for DTG, the self appointed spokesperson(s), who know who they are, need not respond.
     
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    Will the TGV layer in on the Pfälzische Ludwigsbahn?

    If so, will the TGV layering issue on FTF be resolved by then?

    Would be a definitive buy for me, but with the lingering issues I would give it a pass.
     
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    1.Can we get any information if Mittenwaldbahn will feature conductor mode?
    2.Additional to that, will there be a preorder for Mittenwaldbahn?
    3. When will Simtrack reveal the german loco? If not soon, why is it still on the roadmap?
     
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    Will the ICE being updated also be added into Koln Aachen when the new timetable releases? If it's the same ICE of course - maybe not though.
     
  18. Emmy_MAN

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    DTG are you still normal or what ?

    You sell the new line Pfälzische Ludwigsbahn for 39,99Euro, without even a new train, locomotive or freight wagon ?

    We already know your reused rolling stock too well, it won't change much for this new line.

    You don't believe that you can sell a 2-track line without new trains for that price.......

    Greetings Emmy_MAN
     
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    What day is preview stream for new German route
     
  20. dtg_jan

    dtg_jan Community Manager Staff Member

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    Hey there,

    the Pfälzische Ludwigsbahn Add-On will be sold for 35,99€. The article initially contained a typo where the Dollar and Euro signs have been swapped. This should now be fixed in all outlets. If you find any other instance of the pricing being shown wrong, please let us know.

    All the best,
    Jan
     
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    dtg_jan do you think this 35.99 euros is better?

    You are selling the new line of the Pfälzer Ludwigsbahn for 35,99Euro without a new train, new locomotive or new freight wagon?


    Regards Emmy_MAN
     
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    it is 4€ less, so it's better. the price vs content can still be argued but I see only a bit of a problem in that. also, english only. forum rules.
     
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    To be honest the price for Ludwigsbahn is still too much considering zero new rolling stock. Why not include new dostos at least which people have been requesting for years or heck even a new wagon would have been something? Also it sounds like the ICE 3 won't get suspension is this correct?

    The Athena pack is very confusing, last month it was stated on the season of reveals you would need NTP and the Heavy Freight pack to utilise the scenarios with the 40 and 45, but now it just comes with the pack? Who is this pack even for anyway?

    I would also appreciate an update on exterior camera speed-up on controller, since it's been absent since TSW 2
     
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    When will blurry textures on PS5 be fixed?
     
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    When we getting Thomas and friends?
     
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    Well, that's what I assume as well, but I'd like to get it confirmed.
     
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    • Why did you decide not to include any new stock for Pfälzische Ludwigsbahn even while Germany was completely skipped during first round of routes for TSW5 in 2024?

    • When will the critical bugs on Frankfurt - Fulda route be fixed? Crashes to desktop making full route running very problematic, broken brakes on 114 making that train unplayable, large holes in terrain at many places, freight trains blocking mainline in Wirtheim making many services not playable as intended?
     
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    I feel this roadmap is just really to expand on the state of reveals or whatever it was called lol. Most likely next month we will get traction on new stuff etc.
     
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    Do community projects becoming official projects go through lampoil. Can there be more transparency about which ones are going to become real products.
     
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    1. A while back you said you would rethink how early some 3rd party content was announced. Many of the items on the roadmap have now been sitting there for a long time. Is it still the plan to announce things closer to them being finished or have that been changed with the new announcement shows?
    2. Is the Metrolink Rotem cab car's lights not working bug being looked at?
    3. It's nice to see some information about which routes are being played the most. Can we get some information about which routes are being played the least?
     
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    The top question is bugs, we raise tickets, the tickets get looked at, we get a "we are sorry to hear" email, then the tickets get marked as resolved and closed while the issues still remain. There seems no accountability and the bugs are not getting resolved, but new DLC seems to be the focus?
     
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    Has the evolution of tech etc meant processes are quicker to produce a route
     
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    At a tangent from that, do you still have adequate in house staff working on projects and looking at code? TSC seems all but abandoned as do Catan and the fishing games. You seem to be shifting your focus to buying in content from other developers, like Roblox and the tram game. Can we expect to see more of this in the future and you step back from development to publishing?
     
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    When are we getting the 158 on the Fife Circle timetable?

    It's a really good train to drive, so much needed on that route with its awful 170.
     
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    Once the WCMLS optimisation updates are out, will you be adding in the rail tours that you said would be in the big previous update, but had to remove due to performance, and said you would look to add back in after optimisations?
     
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    Will the updated DB406 include the addition of French and/or Dutch electrification and safety systems, given that multi-system vehicles (and a French and soon a Dutch route) have been added since Koln-Aachen?
     
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    I liked seeing the Image of the EMD F59PHR that is in progress, this is a Video of how it was built in London Ontario CA with name GMD
     
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    DTG Alex Senior Community Manager Staff Member

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    Hello everyone,

    I've gone through and timestamped the January 2025 Roadmap, which highlights answers to many questions from this thread, as well as answers we were asked live during the evening that you can skim through.

    January 2025 Roadmap Livestream


    As for the remaining questions in this thread unanswered, I will talk about these below, and then close the thread.
    (Thank you to our team, chat moderators and some of you in the community who have provided answers to many!)

    Just a quick mention that anything regarding new content that we've not yet shared details about, we won't be able to answer directly.

    Q: When are we getting the 158 on the Fife Circle timetable?
    We haven't confirmed the release for when these improvements are coming, however, we will share this once we know more.

    Q: Are there more WCML timetable improvements coming?
    No further work is happening on the WCML timetable at this point, our priority for the time being is ensuring performance is working at a level we're comfortable with, and then continuing to address key issues raised by the community to ensure what we have works to the best level it can. It's not a closed door, but to be transparent right now there are no plans for the timetable.

    Q: Has the evolution of tech meant processes are quicker to produce a route
    This is a really great question, our teams are constantly learning new tools and methods to improve how we can create routes, however, I would like to give this a full answer as a topic in the next roadmap. I'll aim to get some thoughts from Matt and our development teams on this!

    Q: What can we expect to see in the future from Dovetail?
    This will be difficult to give a direct response to, given many things aren't able to be revealed until we're ready to share more. What I will say is that our focus to keep bringing improvements, new features and add-ons to TSW has not stopped and will continue forwards. Other franchises (CATAN, Fishing titles, CTS: Tram, TSW Tycoon etc) are organised by various different groups both internally/externally and have scaling levels of priority based on what we want to focus on.
    As always - keep an eye out for the future, I look forward to when we can discuss more about the future with you all!


    Q: Is it still the plan to announce things closer to them being finished?
    Actually, this is something I wanted to discuss whilst live, but I forgot to! Essentially, we're starting a new system now where the '0-3 Month' category on our roadmap is limited to releases that have builds we can test, capture content and have higher confidence is in the final stage before release. Like Manchester Airport, if you notice any shifting between these two categories, it doesn't necessarily reflect a delay/an issue, but simply just waiting for that build to now be in place. This should give the community a much clearer picture that, if something enters the 0-3 months section, it'll almost always be coming out in that period (unless there is anything major holding it back).

    Q: Do community projects becoming official projects go through LAMPOIL? Is there more transparency about which ones are going to become real products?
    Interestingly, there will be a similar process that third-party content undergoes, however often the choice of content is determined by the third parties themselves, and we do our best to give suggestions, support and advice to help work with our partners to have the best success with their add-ons. Transparency is difficult to share as it comes hand-in-hand with announcing titles themselves, but potentially keep an eye out for new third parties that announce they're working on TSW to get an idea of what to expect!
     
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