Tsw3 - The Cat Is Out Of The Bag & The Unofficial Tsw3 Speculation Thread

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  1. stujoy

    stujoy Well-Known Member

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    If DTG are flying out to somewhere to launch TSW3 then you have to assume it’s either a new country represented and a new market for the sim, or a very special train that they are visiting for the launch. It’s all very exciting.
    This is not about DLC, this is for the launch of TSW3. The US and German routes that aren’t mentioned by name in the roadmap could be the base routes for it and there are usually three routes so there is something else. I’m thinking Japan myself but I could be way off. It’s just about the most requested new country for TSW.
     
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    That's a good point. But I can see nothing wrong in going to the US to record some specific sounds like they did for Peninsula Corridor, for example they used Class 66 sounds on the SD70ACe because they use the same prime mover, this wouldn't work for other US Diesels though.

    Just like Rivet went to the IoW to record a few Class 484 sounds, I can't see why only a new country would require travelling to that location, they managed LGV ""fine"" (for their standards) without it.

    Maybe I'm not giving DTG enough credit but I keep my expectations low, new german and american (non steam) routes + something related to liverpool crewe is what I expect to come with TSW3.
     
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    Given how the 2 routes on the RoadMap have been there a while, I doubt they have only just gone out to source for them now.

    I don’t think this is related to those 2 DLC’s.
     
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  4. FD1003

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    Considering they don't even tell us where in the US and Germany they are might mean they are not that close to being done. Remember how long the Class 313 was there? Sometimes projects might be on hold or delayed for some reason.

    9th of august is the announcement, not the release. As far as we know TSW3 might release in 2023. We still have a lot of preservation upgrades waiting to be released.
     
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  5. CK95

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    Could be the case, guess we’re gonna have to wait a couple more days.

    Just going to throw in that if it is steam related, I’ll be pretty disappointed, we’ve just suffered through a year of DTG focusing on steam.
     
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  6. FD1003

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    2 days to go now... just a little bit of patience
     
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    People in Twitter replies speculating the tweet could mean Japan making me sweat...
     
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  8. stujoy

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    There are so many variables and we don’t know what DTG have up their sleeve. I think they think it’s something special and want to save as many surprises as they can for the launch. Not long now before we see what they are hiding.
    Well I think it could be Japan. There’s no third route on the roadmap and they are flying somewhere far away (a nightmare journey to breathtaking scenery) for the launch. If it turns out to be Blackpool then there will be disappointment.
     
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    Nothing to say that the trip they're doing today has anything to do with DLC already posted
     
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  10. FD1003

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    It could be just me not giving DTG enough credit. Guess we'll see in 2 days.
     
  11. SonicScott91

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    I think either they've gone to America or Germany, where one of these two upcoming routes on the roadmap are based. Or maybe they've not gone abroad at all and have taken a domestic flight up to Scotland as the next UK route is based up there? Fife Circle Line maybe?

    DTG previously ruled out doing first party routes outside of the main three countries due to the amount of work required, plus having to put their existing markets for the big three on hold for a 4th country. They've said in streams the best hope a new region has is for a third party dev to get involved and make a route themselves. They've even said on stream that the reason they did LGV was because it was a high speed route more than the fact it was a French route. It'll be a surprise if they add a new region, though personally I'd still prefer a new UK route instead.

    Its anyone's guess at this point. Tuesday can't come soon enough!
     
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  12. Swisstrains

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    A flight that was long? Wen’t to Dresden and the new German route is the line from Dresden-Neustadt to airport :D
     
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    Not if it’s the tramway…:):):)

    But there really is little clue to say for certain, could be anywhere but I would have thought budgets preclude flying too far which would rule out America (where they would get a local agent to do the legwork) or Japan. Far more likely to be a scenic part of Europe, Austria or Switzerland maybe than anything really exotic.
     
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    Well, hopefully most of that was getting the groundwork ready and future steam releases won't take longer than diesel/electric ones.

    Well, there does happen to be a certain country that is highly requested and also the birthplace of high speed rail...
     
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    If there is anything steam related, I'll be extra hyped! We've been blessed for a year of DTG focusing on steam :)
     
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    As I posted elsewhere, they're in Glacier National Park to launch the BNSF Hi-Line.
     
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    Oh please, not another high speed route with auto-generated scenery.
     
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    I just want another modern British route- the last UK route Spirit of Steam was disappointing (I've used the Jubilee more on other routes than the one it was created for), and it's been a year since BML, which while being my favourite route in the game is still more Electrostars, which wasn't new.

    At this point I'd take a BR era route, provided it wasn't yet another Class 47+ 101 route. While I would much prefer a modern setting personally I would be happy to see something in the Intercity Swallow era with Class 87s or Valenta HSTs, or something along those lines.

    But the fact that no British route is on the roadmap while there is one for the USA and Germany makes me think that either TSW3 (or whatever this new update is) will either just have two routes or the third will be from a new region, which the post was alluding to.
     
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  19. Calidore266

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    Or possibly they don't want players stalking them. :)

    Maybe Chicago will finally be included in the game somehow! Though I would then be bummed about them saying nothing, as I'd be happy to buy Matt & co. a beer, or even just a quick "Hi, love your game" and a fist bump.
     
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  20. gazz292

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    it's going to be fun watching the forum explode if this 'big' announcement is something like:

    ''we've all gone on holiday to a tropical island with no internet access, there will be no more announcements for 2 months''
     
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    Unless it's DTG doing the trolling eh? And why is Sam editing forum posts, I thought he had a new job?

    With regards to TSW3 I think we all should lower out expectations to the bare minimum and then perhaps we will not be disappointed as much but no guarantee's ;) Perhaps they are jetting off to include a new country? Netherlands always seemed popular.

    But for me if they just fixed the game and had proper lighting for stations so players could use a 24hr timetable surely would be of more use.
     
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    it's more likely that they include spirit off steam in a deluxe bundle.....
     
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    That's not really the way how dtg releases earlier their products.... 90% are released in August/September period.....
     
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    I’d love that. Would take me right back to my MSTS days :D


    Sam’s still DTG’s big gun. If no one can get the community under control, Sam can. More likely though, Sam just happened to see this and decided to intervene. He does that on occasion. :)
     
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  25. AirbourneAlex

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    Probably not Japan as it's still largely closed to foreign travel - my thinking is a US freight route like Cajon Pass or Soldier Summit.
    Flights to Germany from the UK are less than two hours, so hardly a nightmare journey unless referring to airport delays.
     
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    wanted to say the same: Flying is terrible in Germany right now…
     
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    Business travellers can currently visit with a visa: https://www.insidekyoto.com/can-i-travel-to-japan-now, with independent tourists basically being the only group that can't travel.

    Japan is still not likely - unless the major nature of the announcement on no less than "the future of TSW" means a reveal of a change of approach to route development to enable production of lines from previously unlikely locations - but I don't think Covid restrictions would be an issue there.
     
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  28. Crosstie

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    " nightmare journey and spectacular scenery "?

    Doesn't fit the Windy City somehow.:D

    ( Unless they've taken the express elevator to the top of the Willis Tower :D )
     
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    Yeah, a budget airline special.
    Could be. That would be nice. It certainly has breathtaking scenery.
    The kids like to drive fast and hopefully wherever the routes are the scenery looks good. I’ll be happy wherever it is as long as the trains don’t jump off the track for no reason, which is my current experience on Horseshoe Curve.
     
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    My last speculation before I'll just wait and see what it actually is, but: The three icons on the twitter post right here ( https://twitter.com/trainsimworld/status/1555584534132973568 ) show a high speed train, a steam train, and a tram. My speculation is that the UK route will be Spirit of Steam, the german route might be Frankfurt tram / Hamburg tram / Berlin Ringbahn and the american route miiiight be something along the likes of the acela express?

    I just want to put it out there because it feel plausible enough to me that if it's turning out to be true, I can go "Called it!" :D
     
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  31. rober

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    Or San Francisco tram :P
     
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    Surely, that would still be the job of community manager?

    Also I don't get how saying" when you don't have a vaild point, that's all you have to say" feeding the troll to be fair. It was just a question
     
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    Surely nothing can be worse than the disappointment that was TSW2020's announcement, where the headlining new feature being marketed was the "new green user interface". To this day I experience trauma from the utter disappointment that release was.

    Cheers
     
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    Well... rush hour got delayed, I think it would be odd to have the announcement so close to release if it's actually a big upgrade. Perhaps late august? We'll find out in a few days, I don't have any more information than anybody, so...

    The idea of people stalking the DTG staff is hilarious - not trying to ridicule your thought process, just the mental image of somebody just waiting for them to arrive just so he can ask what's in TSW3 or complain about some bugs is just hilarious to me - something slightly less funny is the realization that actually exist people that would do that, so good point I guess.

    I'd love that. What were the default routes? Marias Pass, Tokio-Hakone, Settle-Carlisle and the one near Innsbruck with the Orient Express IIRC...

    I always loved the idea of having all of the MSTS default routes with the same trains in a new train sim. I guess we have the Dash-8 and GP-38... Class 50 and A3 Flying Scotsman next perhaps :D
     
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    Ooh, takes me back to that MSTS Settle-Carlisle scenario where you had two Class 50's and raced to a station ahead of the Flying Scotsman's arrival.
    I would seriously like to see those two locos in that route on TSW3.
     
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    That I strongly doubt. Shelby to Whitefish is 152 miles.
    • Innsbruck - St. Anton
    • Settle - Carlisle
    • Shelby - Whitefish
    • Tokyo - Hakone
    • Washington - Philadelphia
    • Yatsushiro - Yoshimatsu
     
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    It's funny I thought SF too, it's American, it's far from the UK, and the summer weather can be... unpredictable. But, what could we get from there? Bart?

    Please not Bart.

    Since we're all just throwing out whatever, here's my crazy: White Pass & Yukon. Don't see how this could be possible. But, if there were ever any machines to be mastered, it would be those.
     
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  38. bakedpotatos.jm

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    I think they may be in Germany, my reasoning if the Stream starts at 1600UTC they may be going east due to the time zones.

    If they are in the US, particularly Glacier Park time zone it is 10am and San Fran is 9am, Chicago 11am and on the east coast 12pm. So that would make sense as well.

    But nowhere on their tweets does it state it was a long flight. I just took a flight the other day that was only 1hour and 20 minutes and it was a nightmare.
     
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    I wonder what the significance of the tagline "Master the Machine" is? Does that suggest a focus on tutorials or ingame prompts etc? Or a rework of mastery?
     
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    A nightmare flight lugging equipment, with beautiful scenery, and presumably in one of the three main TSW locales? Flights within the UK or to Germany are probably not that bad, compared to flying to the US. And I believe it has been mentioned in the past that DTG do have a good working relationship with Amtrak.

    Wishful thinking, for sure, but maybe TSW3's flagship American route will be the 150 mile stretch of the California Zephyr between Reno and Sacramento. With Donner Lake, the infamous Donner Pass, and the Sierra Nevada, the Zephyr certainly has beautiful scenery! It could be last hurrah/digital preservation of the P42DC Genesis and Superliner cars (before they get replaced by the ALC-42 and new passenger cars), with the route rounded out by the inclusion of the SD70ACe in Union Pacific livery to add freight.

    And for super wishful thinking, it'll have US signalling and PTC that work flawlessly ;)
     
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    Seems like you took it as I meant it, kinda facetious but not ridiculous. Looks like you've been around long enough to remember when some people went completely berserk over a Rush Hour release hiccup, posting gems like:

    and

    and

    and

    and much other indignant frothing at the mouth.

    So given the level of investment some have put into expanding a screencap of an accidental camera slip into absolute confirmation of various invented realities (as opposed to those who always remember that they're speculating), I wonder.
     
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    You really can't complete a post without including a sophomore insult, can you?
     
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    I think Master the/your machine(s) has been used in TSC for years. I thought the same as you, it could be a hint but it appears to just be a tagline they've used in the past.

    We'll have to wait and see I guess..
     
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    Can't help feeling there may be a lot of tears this week reading through the "hope there's.." "I would like.." etc. This mob seems to be run by marketing & finance these days, they did a great job building up excitement with an "accidental leak" when there was nothing to share.

    Haven't seen much speculation about what my be left behind this time, anyone remember NEC?
     
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    I'm not really hyped. I'm interested to see what they come up with now that it's been a full year with Matt at the helm.

    But I've been on this train since just before TSW 2020 (pun intended) so I know not to get excited until they actually bring out something official. And to prepare to possibly be disappointed.
     
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    Maybe this is also a possibility? Or was that a simple localisation project?

    [​IMG]

    --

    I can manage it just fine with anyone who is not doing what you have been doing, as is clear in this and other threads. Now if you can move on and save everyone the experience of having to read these exchanges...
     
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    One thing I would like to raise
    "Flight" doesn't have to equal "in a big aeroplane"...
    They could have been in a helicopter filming locations for all we know and "stunning scenery" is also more likely if you're up close and personal.

    They could have been filming a jubilee up close and personal for a PR stunt.
     
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    A nightmare flight could just be an everyday occurrence if they flew with Easyjet or Ryanair!

    San Francisco - the Muni would be more interesting than Bart whether with the modern Breda cars or the old Boeing ones. Only issue would be line of sight working on the street section but any or all of the network would be Day 1 purchase for me.
     
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    Given like the Japanese routes the Chinese ones were all 3rd party as well, this isn't likely at all.
     
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    Unlikely due to the ongoing steam ban in the UK. Unless they've been allowed into a depot.
     
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