Tsw3 - The Cat Is Out Of The Bag & The Unofficial Tsw3 Speculation Thread

so we now see the pattern, the UK route is 90 miles long, this one, USA? is 85 miles etc. Wonder if there will be one in km instead of miles...

 

Hopefully with the german one

 

I would bloody love that.

Cheers

 

Once I get home from work, I'll go thru around the Southwest and look at possible locations that are around 85 miles long

 

I think you're onto it with Cajon. 81 miles from what i can find, but there definitely could be 4 miles of a branch or spur

 

I mean, Cajon is obviously highly likely, not to mention subbing possibilities with Sherman Hill, but I would like to go thru every single option available.

 

Between UP and BNSF (and Amtrak, if optional) in Southwest US, you may have a pretty limited options for 85 miles from yard to yard.

 

Indeed. I'm sure there's more detective work to be done. If it is Cajon, 81 miles is from Barstow MP 0 to City of San Bernardino. The extra mileage could be small portions of Mojave or Needles subs and/or to connect with UP at West Colton- all would be beneficial for AI traffic.

 

As someone hoping for something exciting and British, none of the clues are looking good.

 

Doesn't the 90 mile route point to the UK?

Surely that's slightly intruiging?

 

yea it does

the 85 being USA like

but stream seems more Central Europe ish

 

I hear ya, but the 3rd route is probably Germany/Austria/Switzerland, but they haven't done a "route length" tease for it yet.

My take is the stream is more to show off new tech features, and that they'll have plenty more to show of all 3 tomorrow.

 

Or maybe passengers will carry them in the rain?

 

That's definitely Southern CA/Mojave desert- see the tree yuccas? Not Arizona or NM or CO. To me that smells like El Cajon

 

Albuquerque, NM is well known for its Fall Hot Air Balloon Fiesta.

 

So I found 3 route possibilities for the 85 miles mark

-Cajon Pass (San Bernardino - Barstow) appx 83 miles from depot to depot (Via track 1-2)
BNSF/UP or ATSF/UP

-Beaumont Hill (West Colton - Inyo ) appx 73 miles from West Colton Yard to the old Inyo yard, extra trackage around WC/Fontana or Ontario Amtrak?
UP or SP

-Seligman Subdivision (Williams Junction - Winslow) Appx 88 miles from the old Amtrak depot at Williams to Winslow, potentially too long by a few miles.
ATSF or BNSF

Everywhere else is either too short or too long or doesn't fit the scenery.

 

But the desert around Albuquerque looks nothing like that

 

i think maybe another mile image around 8am as it’s exact time difference between other 2 aswell

 

Have to agree about the Avanti West Coast tortoise clue. A 90 mile WCML route could be on the cards, but which bit?

 

I don't think TSW3 will be announced. At most one core update:
- Weather
- Dynamic clouds
- new train system
- possibly autumn update with 2-3 new tracks
- light system

"Not more". And in the end it will be a lot less than all the "hype" around it.

With the best will in the world, I can't imagine DTG suddenly becoming innovative out of nowhere.

 

I believe in hard reset there. The future is a new game, without the preserved spaghetti code. Time to move on.

 

Preston - Carlisle is exactly 90 miles.

I'm wondering if the tortoise clue is the colour green Avanti use on their trains, maybe..?

 

If it is Shap, I’d prefer it with the Class 87 and 370. They’d make for a much more interesting experience than a plain ol’ Pendolino.

 

How would Tehachapi factor into 85 miles, if you added a bit at either end or maybe the Trona branch too? I know Seligman from Run 8 and sadly it’s not the most interesting section, either scenically or operationally. My smart money would still be on Cajon at this point, obviously a lot of people at DTG are secretly playing Run 8!

Preston to Carlisle or Carlisle to Glasgow would be great for the UK but definitely in the AC electric loco era, not Pendies.

Of course the slight downer to all this if we are getting 3 x 80/90 mile routes will we be looking at a £40 price tag for the new version? Time to bank those Steam Wallet points.

 

What the hell ?!
Long Routes???!!!
There must be something wrong…

 

With what seems to be longer route sizes does this mean their autogen is working better or DTG have found a way to incorporate photo/aerial data in routes?

 

Euston to Nuneaton or Birmingham International or rugby are at 93 miles or less

 

Nuneaton is 97 miles & B'ham International is 104 miles from Euston.

Rugby is 82 but why say 90 unless there's some branches which bump it up to 90..?

 

I’d say this is a good shout. Pre pandemic (I think) DTG went up to the WCML and spent time at the Avanti depot. Although WCML South is now out for TS, I’d be very surprised if they didn’t use that research in a tsw title too.

 

Nuneaton or International not a logical end point. Rugby with the Northampton Loop included would be over 90 miles. So I sincerely doubt if it is the WCML, it’s any section south of Preston.

Anyhow I reckon curved ball incoming. It will be Craven Arms to Llanelli via Central Wales - 4 trains a day in each direction with a 153. Nice challenge for Joe there!!

Actually on a serious note, wonder how far 90 miles would get you along the North Wales coast either from Crewe or Chester. Time to dig out my sectional appendices.

Edit: Well Crewe to Holyhead is 105 miles (further edit) so maybe start from Chester but throw in the Llandudno Town branch. H’mmm interesting.

 

They don't use miles in Central Europe. Not sure that says anything reliable about the hints DTG is giving us though.

 

I'd say it does - the miles hints are for the US and UK routes, the third one still missing and likely being in kms.

 

Its almost 1am here on the West Coast of the USA, wonder if its worth pulling an all nighter to see anything new (I luckily don't work tomorrow)

 

Might as well get some sleep, they’re revealing in 8 hours anyway.

 

Sod that, whether you stay up or go to sleep, you'll find out eventually.

 

Yes it’s only a train game, not the future of mankind.

 

The rain droplet effect on the camera looks good and I sincerely hope that it makes it into the vehicles; the existing effect just looks like wallpaper paste running down the windows, to a degree where you can’t even read the information screens on the trains. Unfortunately the rainfall itself looks like the typical enormous UE4 drops.

 

I liked the billboard that popped up with JD’s mugshot and the words ‘I will find you and I will leak you’

 

The whole hype/promotion of this has been brilliant, kudos to whoever was part of putting it together.

 

DTG have figured out 21st century marketing. This has been more fun than it should be.

Cheers

 

Look as if DTG still haven't sorted those backlit tunnels.

 

Top marks to the person at DTG who’s in charge of marketing.

 

All those stations would be an poor place to end the route. If they went to International then they might as well go to New Street. Ending at Rugby would be like ending the GWML route at Didcot where many trains don't stop.

If it is WCML then I would think Preston to Carlisle would make more logical sense as both are major stations.

 

With them saying 90 miles and Preston - Carlisle being bang on 90 miles, it's the best guess I've seen.

 

Agreed, this has been very exciting to see unfold. DTG has come a long way since "The big reveal".

 

What if it's more like the DRA situation and 90 miles refer to a total mileage in a network? So a bunch of shorter segments connected, maybe some branches?

 

It's been a long time since I've had such a good time reading the TSW forums, it's amazing with all the speculation over the last few hours and being able to enjoy the knowledge that so many members of the community have about trains and routes around the world.
And the next few days are going to be crazy too, after the revelations the forums are going to boil.

Congratulations to DTG for the marketing they are using, it's amazing.

 

Don't know if it's already been posted, but this just flew across the screen.

 

I agree with the other comments, DTG has made the reveal of TSW 3 quite exciting. I like the way they acknowledged JD accidentally leaked it by putting up a wanted poster. The live stream looks stunning too. Dynamic weather is going to make the game more interesting to say the least.

I’ll be very surprised if Gen8 consoles are still supported, unless they’ve found a super cool way of using much less memory at any given moment.

 

I'm impressed also in the way how DTG let is know there is something to reveal! This is one off the best reveals that I have experienced in the last year's. Thumbs up for DTG!!!