Tsw3 - The Cat Is Out Of The Bag & The Unofficial Tsw3 Speculation Thread

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  1. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    Let's not start on that one LOL...
     
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  2. erg73

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    I wish they had taken the opportunity to include the sheerness branch.
     
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  3. ARuscoe

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    They've redone the timetable, so hopefully the Electrostars will be confined to CML and KML as they should be rather than through Gravesend
     
  4. gazz292

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    i guess we still have no direct input / joystick controls available in TSW3?
     
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  5. chieflongshin

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    Genuinely say I'm sold straight off the bat.

    It seems that constantly feeding back has worked. Nice work TrainSim-Matt and DTG JD

    This looks like a fantastic step jump
     
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  6. ARuscoe

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    Quote from Jamie

    Looks like they'll carry over (some of) the routes from TSW2 with license updates (same as they did from TSW2020 to TSW2)
     
  7. ARuscoe

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    DYNAMIC WEATHER!!!!

    About time
     
  8. Train Sim 9723

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    Great see both set able and dynamic weather Brilliant work
     
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  9. byeo

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    Woohoo, AI passengers get umbrellas. Just what I wanted..
     
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  10. ARuscoe

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    All former TSW DLC will transfer over day 1
     
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  11. ARuscoe

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    Wow... early access means you get it FOUR DAYS EARLY
     
  12. dangerousdave

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    Tsw3 on steam? cant find it?
     
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  13. ARuscoe

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  14. KMAN

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    I had a feeling it would be 3rd rail again!!
    On TSW page says will appear later after 6pm
     
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  15. Mr JMB

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    if you own SoS and SEHS you only need buy the german or us starter pack
     
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  16. KMAN

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    When can I pre-order Train Sim World 3?

    Pre-orders for the Standard and Deluxe Editions are available now on consoles. PC platforms are to follow later today. Starter Packs will be available at launch.


    Pre-Order Links:

     
  17. eldomtom2

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    Can't say I'm excited. Improved weather just isn't enough for me to want to pay £30, especially when now a TSW4 in 2024 seems inevitable and the feature I was hoping for upgrades for (scenario planner) has been explicitly confirmed as remaining the same.
     
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  18. dangerousdave

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    So.... Do we move over to a tsw3 thread now?
     
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  19. redrev1917

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    Looks like the specs have increased considerably for TSW3 compared to TSW2 so my PC will need an upgrade GPU which is a me problem I know.

    BUT whats going to happen to the promised updates for TSW2 and bug fixes such as the BR187 and the Class 150, are these still going to happen if I decide to stay at TSW2 level and not upgrade? Or am I now stuck with a jerky stuttering mess with broken trains?
     
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  20. DTG JD

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    It's included as part of the pack.
     
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  21. DTG JD

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    All content currently compatible with TSW2 will be available for TSW3 (there may be a delay for BKL, SKA, SPG and New Journeys, as they'd need to have their own pages set up, but we'll keep you posted).
     
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  22. redrev1917

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    Well only if you want 1 of the routes, if you want both the US and German route then the standard pack is required
     
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  23. DTG JD

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    Will cover on the Roadmap, but we still plan to release them. It may be that that they're released for TSW3 before TSW2 though.
     
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  24. Train Sim 9723

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    Does that that include TSW 1/preserved collection?
     
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  25. DTG JD

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    About 6pm UK time.
     
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  26. DTG JD

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    Yes, if it's available for TSW2, it'll be available for TSW3.
     
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  27. JetWash

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    The new lighting is very welcome, although the proof will be in the pudding. The $64,000 question, however, is does the sim now draw the detail to the horizon, or are we still losing shadows etc 1/3rd into the middle distance where everything beyond that has no shadows etc at all. It was impossible to tell from the stream, and the whole thing will be pointless if this fundamental change hasn’t been made.

    The same applies to tunnels, cab occlusion, station lighting etc.
     
  28. Train Sim 9723

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    Is any one able to explain the difference between deluxe and standard version

    taken into account I own SEHS and SOS
     
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  29. coursetim

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    I like the touch which SOS and SEHS that was the major question I had. The lighting and weather look good! I just hope they manage to have a better launch than tsw2 did.

    Also wondering how much more this will take out of the memory? Or if the dlc manager has saved enough space to help out with this?
     
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  30. Princess Entrapta

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    I wonder, will the UI overhaul mean that on XBox we won't need a silly button combo to access the options like the update last year introduced?
    And is there any chance the functionality might be improved so that it remembers all of our choices, like turning blur off*, between sessions?

    *and for the love of my migraines, also the light adaptation nonsense
     
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  31. solicitr

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    Well, the moans are already starting about the content- and I'll admit, that aspect is underwhelming: SEHS made into what it should have been at launch, only one new loco, Kassel-Würzburg long but not nearly as interesting as an Alpine route.

    HOWEVER:

    The core updates appear to represent a MAJOR upgrade over the rickety TSW2.

    • Compete clean-sheet rebuild of the lighting system, into something which on stream at least looked very good indeed
    • Dynamic weather and volumetric clouds. And thunderstorms! And passengers with umbrellas.
    • A hugely more functional and more attractive UI
    • A version of TSC's Academy brought in as "Training Center", with all the training modules centralized (no more "look up, look down" whenever you fire up a new route), and this development also means (a) advanced tutorials, and (b) a move in the direction of route-independent loco DLCs
    • Direct transfer of all TSW2 DLC
    What is not yet known:
    • Will progress on legacy routes be preserved
    • Will existing user-made scenarios still work
    • Will the new sky and lighting systems work in legacy routes or not
    • Has anything been done to improve the core sound system
     
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  32. Lamplight

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    Looking pretty amazing to me. I won’t be able to play it for a few months but I’m certainly looking forward to it :D Finally an ICE 1 (presumably done by TSG) and another South-West US route with BNSF even (though I would have preferred something more vintage). Amazing :)
     
  33. dangerousdave

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    To be honest I'm happy with leaving tsw2 in the past, with its achievements, scenarios etc....
     
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  34. Callum B.

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    All the shots on the Cajon route look :love:

    This was explicitly denied in the stream (as a caption on the TSW2 video slides).

    Cheers
     
  35. Purno

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    Is there any point in owning the 465 DLC?
     
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  36. solicitr

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    Bummer
     
  37. Lamplight

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    Not for TSW3 there isn’t.
     
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  38. DTG JD

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    If you own SOS, Standard Edition would be your best bet (if you wanted the 3 routes). There are Regional Starter Packs as well (details here).
     
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  39. DTG JD

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    I believe in TSW3 it comes as part of SEHS Extended.
     
  40. Princess Entrapta

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    I think every Series S owner in particular is waiting for an answer on this.
     
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  41. Disintegration7

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    Is the ES44 for Cajon the same as the HSC version?

    Agree on the sounds- need to know more on this aspect.
     
  42. Kyle

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    We still missing the Class 700 Thameslink
     
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    tsw3 is ue 5?
     
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    We're testing the game across all platforms for performance, and Add-ons Manager is in beta in conjunction with these tests.

    As we say with all these releases, it may be that the experience on 8th-Gen consoles is different (less layers, etc.), but we'll confirm closer to the time when testing is complete.
     
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    UE4.26
     
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    No Polish version this time. So disappointing...
     
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    We cover Audio within the Roadmap released in the next couple of days, and will have a live stream with the Audio team.
     
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  48. JetWash

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    …and the draw distance of the lighting?
     
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  49. Purno

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    Which one? Because the 66 has been around since GWE, and plenty of us bought the 465 DLC.

    Agreed, but unfortunately for us there still seems to be a demand for high speed routes, even though there's already a fair selection of these available. To make things worse, Kassel-Würzburg seems to be a dedicated high speed line, which makes it a one trick pony.

    True, but if I'm not mistaken, these features wouldn't be directly available for our preserved collection, am I right?

    Too early to judge about that TBH. They've shown a few seconds of useful new thingies, but that doesn't give us a complete picture.

    Training Center is an improvement, I admit. I wouldn't conclude the tutorials will be more advanced, as TSW2 already features specialized tutorials for several trains. You don't need a Training Center for that. And route-independent locos would be nice, but that's not a TSW3 feature yet.

    Considering the amount of bugs TSW2020 --> TSW2 preserved collections brought us, I'm not sure I'm totally looking forward to a TSW2 --> TSW3 transfer of our preserved collection. But at least there's no content not being preserved like our good old NEC New York - New Rochelle...

    Hopefully things will be answered in the next few weeks.
     
  50. dangerousdave

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    Whats the benefits of the deluxe addition does anyone know?
     
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