Tsw5 Layers Information

Discussion in 'TSW General Discussion' started by ericb, Aug 21, 2024.

  1. ericb

    ericb Active Member

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    So wait a min with the idea with layers. Does this mean that we can remove some layer from service. And another thing what about the back catalogs. Will this be added in the future for the back catalogs. If that the case that the back catalogs will have all layers open and we can remove some layer service from the back catalogs am I right or wrong.
     
  2. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    I was just about to make a thread about this myself as I spotted this in the FAQ: Screenshot_20240821_081951.jpg
    It's red for the Starter Pack (presumably because that has no trains/routes included in it) but green for both TSW5+ routes and TSW4< Content.

    No note attached to it either, so I'd think it's universal...
     
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    aeronautic237 Well-Known Member

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    ericb Active Member

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    I’m not talking about substitution. I’m talking about having all layers on on all routes. Including the backwards compatible one. For example on the LIRR route on series s the layers aren’t all the way on. Yes I do know the reason why. But if you were to cut it on I can remove some layers my own. As Matt and jd mentioned. If I’m not mistaken misinfor on that.
     
  5. DTG-Chris

    DTG-Chris Staff Member

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    Correct. It's available on all routes, new and old. You will find this information in the Train Sim World 5 FAQ with an example taken from Kassel - Wurzburg.

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  6. ericb

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    Yes this is what I was talking about thanks cool done deal.
     
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    Xander1986 Well-Known Member

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    A NJ Baureihe 101??? Something hidden is leaked?
     
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    noir Well-Known Member

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    No?

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    Ah yeah right thats correct ;) cool thats you can select it :) what i will removed is the dispolok 182... The lights are broken and the loco on the sidings near Kassel is so Strange... Its standing there for a very long time whats totally not realistic. They never parked a loco on this way. Mostly at special ending tracks so they did not Block other trains
     
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    james64 Well-Known Member

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    Somehow I completely missed this. That's genuinely a great idea. I always dreaded approaching Doncaster on ECML as the game lagged like crazy cause of all the junk DTG decided to put in and around the station in the sidings. It'll also help with unnecessary layers like the 375 on London Commuter.
     
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    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    I like this. Not a fan of certain layers on some routes so i'm happy with this.

    Out of curiosity, could this see the idea of (Reduced) and (Full) timetables (i.e. ECML) be phased out in favour of people being able to simply deselect layers until the game can run?
     
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    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    Based on the "NRM" part in the name also appearing with the 425, I'd think these are meaning Hauptstrecke Rhein-Ruhr (the old 101), with the 101 just running NJ services.
     
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  13. DigiTMCN

    DigiTMCN Active Member

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    I am slightly confused on this. Isn't a route better with as many layers as possible to make it look busier? Why would you want to turn off layers? Is this moreso for PS4 and S players for resource reasons? On PS5 and PC its better to just keep all layers active?
     
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    richtayls Well-Known Member

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    Depends on the PC, some people are running the game on potatoes.

    Also I'm hoping that disabling a layer will also prevent substitution from that source, which would solve the problem prevalent on USA routes where the same loco type appears but with a livery that would never be seen on that route.
     
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    james64 Well-Known Member

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    In my experience even on PS5 the amount of layers causes the game to struggle. As I mentioned previously, approaching Doncaster is borderline unplayable at times.
     
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    knowing this, does this mean you’ll have a full-time table on Xbox series S, because if your experiencing game crashes, you can just exclude certain layers.
     
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    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Some players want realism even if it means having less traffic. There are several instances where certain services are represented but with the incorrect train because the actual train doesn't exist in tsw
     
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    Thank you for that information. I enjoy TSW but I am not fully up to the knowledge with what should or shouldn't be on some routes. This makes sense now. So sometimes locos are added just to make route appear busier despite that loco never actually being on that route in real life.
    Bit like a route I have been playing with advertised lots of timetable services, yet a lot of them are just 1 minute or 13 minutes. Part 1 is 1 min, part 2 is 1 min. Done just to make a timetable look better.
     
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  19. FredElliott

    FredElliott Well-Known Member

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    Not at all. While it may bump up the service count, the movement is still required in almost all cases. A random example might be moving a loco from one platform to another to hook up to a different set of carriages for the next service. This movement needs to happen as it is part of the timetable, and may only last one or two minutes. If it was left to the AI to do this, it would prevent players from staying in the cab of that loco. The alternative would be warping the loco to the second platform, which is wholly unrealistic
     
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    Would be great if as well as layers being selectable, you could also choose liveries you’ve subscribed to, to apply.
     
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    Selectable layers are a step in the right direction. I was hoping there would be a way of turning individual substitutions off, it is probably a lot harder than I assume though. For example, I don't want to see the class 40 on the Blackpool route but I don't want to have to remove an entire layer of services to achieve that.
     

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