Unachievable Golds

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  1. coursetim

    coursetim Well-Known Member

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    I wanted to specifically put up a thread mentioning this more recently. I've been finding a lot of services and scenarios that are just impossible to get gold medals on. Numerous freight services the only way is to reverse up and down a section of line gaining 30 points at a time.

    I know a forum member took time out of their own day to document a massive list of these known issues on the technical support forum and did a fantastic job of cataloguing and testing the errors. I think mainly due to Forum bugs and some issues he stopped supporting the thread. But it never seemed like dtg did anything with the list?

    Its been brought up on a few streams they need to find a better system for it or something like that but it is incredibly frustrating having journey modes with goals set towards completing all services to gold and not being able to do so (SEHS, BML, PFR etc). If its there in the game it (Journey completed to gold) and there are icons for it surely it should be realistically completeable or maybe just take out the "Completed to gold" section of the journey mode until its fixed?

    I understand its probably a small trivial thing for a lot of players but there are definitely people like myself who want to get those gold medals :)
     
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  2. yardem

    yardem Well-Known Member

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    The thread is here. It is not abandoned, but it's no longer "sticky", following the DTG's well known mantra for dealing with bugs:
    Out of sight, out of mind.
    You can check your service against the list. If it's not there, reply to the thread with the details.
     
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  3. coursetim

    coursetim Well-Known Member

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    Yeahh I have saved the thread and still post the ones I find. Although as the author stated its not like they do much with it unfortunately.
     
  4. nepclassof84

    nepclassof84 Well-Known Member

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    It’s less prevalent in tsw2 routes. Nearly all of the tsw3 services have the problem. Anything that is nothing more than go from a to b is very likely to be an impossible gold. Especially bringing a train into / out of service. Runs in /out of sunnyside for example is a guaranteed bronze. Freight runs on Kassel wurtzburg may require you to yoyo in the arrival yard for 60 ish points for gold if you have no speed penalties. Oddly cajon pass doesn’t have the problem. Without speed penalties gold is easy there.

    as dtg is fixing other high priority items this needs to quickly find its way to the top of the list.
     
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  5. heliq

    heliq Active Member

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    Take the medals to hell, make only a gold and silver star.
    Golden - performed without penalty.
    Silver - with an penalty (speed restrictions).

    Leave the number of points, but just let it affect only the levels. Not to the stars.
     
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  6. DTG Alex

    DTG Alex Senior Community Manager Staff Member

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    Near the start of the year, myself and the CM team put together a list using the unobtainable achievements thread and beta team feedback to address as many of these services and scenarios that haven't been allowing players to reach a gold medal. Since then, we've had many included in patch notes that have had this issue resolved, and although there are a lot more we need to get on with fixing, I can say with confidence that the team are aware of the list, and whenever an opportunity to get a fix for these comes through we make sure to push on it.

    For some of the ones listed that haven't been working for some time, we'll keep pushing to get them patched - thank you for your patience.
     
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  7. coursetim

    coursetim Well-Known Member

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    Nice to hear it has at least been looked at in some way, thankyou Alex :)
     
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    yardem Well-Known Member

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    Can you please link to the patch notes where many of these issues have been resolved?
     
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    owenroser19 Well-Known Member

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    I just want a way to turn off the medals/action points. A simple tick to know I’ve done it is enough for me.
     
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    redrev1917 Well-Known Member

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    Are these fixes upgrading existing scores to gold medals or are you expecting us to complete the service again in order to get gold?
    And what about journey mode where even if you rerun a service and get a higher medal it doesn't update?
     
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  11. coursetim

    coursetim Well-Known Member

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    I think one of the major issues with this is that it does seem to be more common on newer routes? Maybe its something to look into during the development process? As look at the freight and ROG timetable and journey services on sehs.

    Ive completed ECW and WSR without any issues. TVL had 2 ECS 101 moves and a 08 scenario that required a little yo-yo in the yard but it wasn't too bad. Hopefully as Matt says they can figure out this system to accurately predict the points and not set them too high.
     
  12. nepclassof84

    nepclassof84 Well-Known Member

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    Either that or add “go via” spots like most of the tsw2 routes have
     
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