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  1. dramos#3074

    dramos#3074 Member

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    The vermonter
    Would be cool
     
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    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know what that is or where that is, what trains operate it, etc.
     
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  3. dramos#3074

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    • St. Albans
    • Essex Junction (Burlington)
    • Springfield
    • New York
    • Washington, DC
    13 hours 45 minutesDaily Departure
    Daily service between Washington, DC and St. Albans in northern Vermont. Your journey north on the Vermonter begins in DC and runs through New York City to Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Vermont.
     
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    dramos#3074 Member

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    Genesis GE P42DC. Or emdF40ph
     
  5. R3DWolf91

    R3DWolf91 Well-Known Member

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    That is way too long of a route for the game engine to handle. Even chopping the route up into manageable segments would be difficult as there's no real good intermediate stop and start points that could maintain immersion. The portion through Vermont and New Hampshire is 180 route miles (St. Albans - Brattleboro). The Massachusetts segment between Greenfield and Springfield is a more reasonable 40 miles but there's nothing terribly fascinating on that leg. I've proposed the line between Springfield and New Haven before as it has a variety of passenger and freight trains. The rest of the route is all on the NEC which already exists in game in various states.
     
  6. dramos#3074

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    I just find it weird that dovetail would put Amtrak into the game but not even put its most iconic locomotives instead it puts two locomotives nobody gives a LOVE I mean the ACs 64 entered service and what 2014 the Genesis has been in service for decades and still is the main locomotive. And the emd f40 has been in service even longer I believe that train simulator was able to do the vermonter
     
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    R3DWolf91 Well-Known Member

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    Both the F40 and P42 exist in Train Sim Classic where they have routes to operate over. And as far as I know the only Vermonter services existing in the official game took place over the portions of the NEC DLCs. The only off-corridor segment of the route in TSC exists as the New Haven - Springfield route set in the New Haven Railroad-era. To my knowledge there hasn't been a single route created that covers the entire distance between DC and St. Albans, unless it's a third party or workshop creation.

    In Train Sim World we haven't really had a route that could take full advantage of the task of developing those two and having scenarios and timetables to get the most out of them. Cajon would see a couple of night time trains using the P42, a similar situation exists for Horseshoe and Sandpatch. The two portions of the Corridor that currently exists rarely see a P42 on revenue runs or otherwise. It takes time and money and effort to not just model equipment but simulate the physics and sounds as well. I 1,000% support getting any variety of Genesis into the game, or an Amtrak F40, but I want a route that would take full advantage of the new content. Otherwise it becomes a blink-and-miss-it novelty that I just paid $30 for.

    Remember that this game is not US-centered, and that players from around the world may share the same opinion you have on the ACS towards the F40 and P42. Why should someone living in Wales care about the history of the F40? Do you expect a player in Berlin to care about the P42? Everything is subjective.
     
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    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    The problem with the p42 was that it would have offered extremely limited content for what we would have had to pay. They would have to create a whole new engine with all the simulation elements and the different passenger coaches all which takes up a lot of time. And then there wouldn't be much services for it. They can't really make a route for it either since you only see it in long distance runs which are hundreds and thousands of miles long which just isn't possible. Even then, you see very few services.
     
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    , yeah I can see your point it's a shame I guess I don't know you are right I forget it's a UK game they should just call it UK train Sim not train Sim world cuz the US really does get shafted
     
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    There’s no f40s because they’ve all been gone since the early 2000s, unless you want an npcu
     

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