Train Sim World 3 Wcml Midlands And North West (suggestion 2 Birmingham New Street - Preston)

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  1. pessitheghost

    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    The West Coast Mainline Midlands and the North West route in Train Sim World 3 would cover the stretch from Birmingham NS to Preston, offering a realistic and immersive experience for train enthusiasts. This section of the West Coast Mainline is known for its diverse scenery, including urban areas, industrial landscapes, and picturesque countryside. The route sits at 103
    miles and covers from the bustling midlands through to Suburban Lancaster-shire. There are 18 stations on this part of the WCML

    Why this route
    - Gives Birmingham New Street even more traffic and bustle
    - Fits the LAMP criteria for choosing routes
    (we have the Avanti license and the WMR/LNWR license as well as the northern license, Anticipation in the sense that the WCML in general is one of the most requested routes in TSW, and would be a general fan favourite, Mix in the sense that it gives a balance of engagement from faster 125mph high speed runs to slower 75-100mph semi fast, and even commuter/regional runs and being able to have proper freight runs along with the major depots on this route. Prominence in the sense that the WCML in general is one of the busiest mainlines in the UK carrying the most amount of rail freight in Europe and carrying millions of passengers a year while passing through the UK’s 5 biggest cities)

    - Would be a good summer DLC release as the route fits the recent anticipation and is a headliner
    - DLC can be made for this route (as well as extensions if possible)
    - Is a good laying structure for current and future DLC (such as Birmingham Cross City, north Wales Coastal, WCML South, WCMLOS, Trent Valley Lines, Wolverhampton - Wrexham/Shrewsbury, the Chase lines, Manchester/ Liverpool related DLC etc.)

    Stations:
    a) Wolverhampton: The starting point of the route, Wolverhampton station is a bustling urban hub with multiple platforms and a mix of modern and heritage architecture.

    b) Birmingham New Street: As one of the busiest railway stations in the UK, Birmingham New Street would be a key stop on the route, showcasing its impressive concourse and extensive platform layout.



    c) Stafford: Situated in the county town of Staffordshire, this station offers a mix of historic and modern features, serving as a vital interchange point.

    d) Crewe: Known as a major railway junction, Crewe station would be a significant stop, showcasing its distinctive Victorian architecture and busy platforms.

    e) Warrington Bank Quay: This station serves the town of Warrington and is known for its elevated platforms and excellent views of the surrounding area.

    f) Preston: The final destination on the route, Preston station is a busy interchange point and a key hub in the North West, featuring a mix of modern and historic buildings.

    Rolling Stock: To provide a realistic and authentic experience, a variety of rolling stock should be included on the route. Some of the suggested train types are:

    a) Class 390 Pendolino: These tilting electric trains are a common sight on the West Coast Mainline, known for their sleek design and high-speed capabilities.
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    b) Class 350/1 Desiro: These electric multiple units are often seen on services between Birmingham and Liverpool, offering a comfortable and efficient commuting experience
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    . c) Class 66: As one of the most common freight locomotives in the UK, the Class 66 would be suitable for freight scenarios on the route.
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    d) Class 220/221s: These are tilting DMUs used by Avanti West Coast mainly on their north wales services, but also run occasionally up north to Scotland. They have a top speed of 125mph
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    e) Class 323 and 158 layers at Birmingham New Street and Crewe respectively

    Scenarios: To provide engaging gameplay, a variety of scenarios should be included on the West Coast Mainline Midlands and the North West route. Here are a few examples:

    a) Rush Hour Express: Take the helm of a Class 390 Pendolino during the busy morning rush hour, ensuring punctuality while managing a crowded train.

    b) Freight Haul: Experience the challenges of hauling a heavy freight train using a Class 66 locomotive, navigating steep gradients and tight curves.
    c) Local Connection: Drive a Class 350/1 Desiro on a local service, making stops at various stations along the route and maintaining a tight schedule.

    d) Night Shift Freight: Operate a Class 66 locomotive on a late-night freight run, delivering essential goods across the West Coast Mainline while facing adverse weather conditions.

    e) Express to the Welsh Coast: Drive a Class 220 unit diverted off the Trent valley Lines due to engineering works as far as Crewe making stops at Wolverhampton, Stafford and Crewe

    These scenarios would offer a mix of passenger and freight operations, allowing players to explore different aspects of railway operations on the West Coast Mainline Midlands and the North West route.

    In conclusion, incorporating the West Coast Mainline Midlands and the North West route into Train Sim World 3 would provide an exciting and realistic experience for train enthusiasts. By featuring notable stations, diverse rolling stock, and engaging scenarios, players would have the opportunity to immerse themselves in the challenges and rewards of operating trains on this iconic railway line
     
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    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    Pics of stations

    Birmingham N Street
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    Wolverhampton
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    Stafford
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    Crewe
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    Preston
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  3. pessitheghost

    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    Future DLC
    Loco Pack #3
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    Class 805/7

    Class 730

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    Class 90


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    Class 86 FL
     

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    I still haven’t warmed to the 350s with green fronts, someone paint it yellow!!!!!
     
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    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    Honestly, and this is a lengthy route as well which is just amazing
     
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    Count me in!
     
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    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    Yep
     
  9. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Let me see you are trying to recreate a train simulator Classic route that fills in the gap between West Coast Main Line south and west coast Main Line North and Shap the final 193 miles from Glasgow Central to Preston via Carlisle
    That can serve as a basis for the following ECML LNER 800 & 801 GWML & WCL 2023-2024 Classes 800 & 802
     
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    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    Yep the missing link by ATS, and it’s quite a lengthy route as well, takes an hour 30 to cover on the fastest and over 2 hrs on the slowest
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Correct they might as well remake it for TSW 3 due to them being a third party for the game. If DTG and ATS want a collection might was well bundle WCML Missing link with Fen Line another Alan Thompson simulation product from train Sim classic re made for TSW 3 as ATS Adventure pack.
     
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  12. jacob.davies1855

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    You missed out the most important station - Wigan North Western
     
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    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    Wigan is important, but not as important as these stations
     
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    On the long side though, particularly with numerous complex stations and yards. Birmingham to Crewe or Crewe to Preston could be a possibility.
     
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    I was being Ironic :(
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    The first one Birmingham to Crewe will make sense as long as both are set in 1958 that way we can run 105 miles from New Street to Liverpool Lime St via Crewe. Crewe to Preston has to be era 5 that way Crewe to Blackpool runs via Preston are playable. Excellent Idea so far
     
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    I like the route suggestion but I would only get it if it was in the seventies or eighties so it was pre push pull and you got proper AC electrics I know if they did this the obvious class to do would either be 86s or 87s which is a shame as in my opinion and most bashers from the time roarers (class 81-85) were much better. But anyway like the suggestion
     
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    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    I would o my really take it in the 80s if we got the APT
     

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