Wcml: Preston To Carlisle Neutral Sections

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  1. Dion Flannery

    Dion Flannery Active Member

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    found this map on Google of the Neutral sections between Preston & Carlisle. Figured it might help a few people get a rough idea of where they are Located :)
     
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    This was posted so many times and I always forgot to save it… thanks, that’ll be helpful.
     
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  3. Dion Flannery

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    You’re welcome! So far it’s helped me a lot, especially on the non stop runs, Preston directly to Carlisle and Back. As for the stopping services, it’s a little harder to comprehend because not each service stops at every station, so it’s a matter of adding the miles between the station n board and that stuff and calculating when you will get a neutral zone:)
     
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    I'm very much a HUD on player, not really into route learning in the strictest sense. However, I realised that the neutral sections were probably never going to make it to the HUD so set about learning them. I've found it quite rewarding; there are only 12 so not too much of a task. I think I generally know where each are (with the emphasis on general!) from visual clues & HUD info :)

    Preston to Carlisle

    1. Approach a farm & village on the left followed by a couple of football pitches, pass over 2 foot crossings then there's your warning board (WB).

    2. WB just before the signal for Morecambe South junction. If you run down at the AWS magnet you'll be okay, certainly from a standing start at Lancaster. NS as line comes alongside from Morecambe.

    3. WB about 1.5 miles (-ish!) from 90 mph speed restriction at Oxenholme. Watch your speed, especially if calling there.

    4. Near the end of Lune Gorge, a left hand curve onto a long straight. Right hand curve and WB near the end of that. NS after signal and bridge.

    5. WB on bridge over motorway before Penrith. NS after station, under a footbridge next to farm buildings on right.

    6. NS just before final signal into Carlisle. WB is only about half a mile before, but shouldn't be a problem if you're managing your speed well.

    Carlisle to Preston

    1. NS is not long after leaving CAR, under a bridge, alongside some sidings and near the 75 mph limit start. Run down passing under the bridge.

    2. WB at start of straight following a right-left chicane (which itself follows a long straight), just over a mile from 75 mph limit through Penrith. NS just before 75 mph. Watch your speed, especially if calling at PEN.

    3. WB near end of steepest part of Shap descent, going past some rocky walls near sides of track. NS around 100 mph mark. Power should be off anyway from descent and speed can come down/or level out nicely for the 100 mph is you time it well.

    4. WB just after Oxenholme, under a bridge, then easy to spot. NS just after passing loop.

    5. This WB I have a little difficulty in remembering (somewhere near where you can first see the sea if you're looking), but if you're not running down by Hest bank signal box you really ought to be! NS is alongside track running to Morecambe at M North Jn.

    6. WB another one with not much visually going on, there are some bridges over the line and it's between the last two bridges. Luckily you can always check the HUD as NS is 9.1 miles from PRE.
     
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  6. Dion Flannery

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    I actually didn’t know someone actually made this from the discord so I posted it here!
     

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