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Wessex Main Line , Dilton Marsh , (bristol To Salisbury)

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by WVUadam, Jun 9, 2020.

  1. WVUadam

    WVUadam Active Member

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    The Wessex main line would be a great fit for TSW and TSW2 as its been stated that longer routes could be implemented. The route includes countryside and built up areas.

    Salisbury to Bristol temple meads (Along the Portsmouth to Cardiff route) Fantastic choice to premiere the class 158 and 150 in GWR livery and 158 + 159 in SWR livery

    Locos used along the route (Includes diverts)

    GWR class 166 5 car , class 158 3 car and 4 car are used on this route primarily as well as 150s , class 66 freight. use to use class 43 HST Bristol to bath with diverts to westbury
    SWR are also used on this route as well for Bristol to Waterloo via Salisbury with 3 car 159, 158 and 2 car 158s. Class 43 HST diverts. Bristol to bath for london see class 800s now
    It would also bring into account of the importance of request stops. And a scenario could be implemented to teach how to stop at a request stop and procedures involved.
    Scenarios
    One scenario could teach us how to couple trains together to form and take a peak service.
    One could be for HST Diverts Bristol to Westbury.
    Station stops
    Calling points GWR and SWR Bristol - Salisbury (Fast and slow service stops)
    Bristol Temple meads
    keynsham
    Oldfield park
    Bathspa
    Freshford
    Avon cliff
    Bradford on avon
    Trowbridge
    Westbury
    Dilton Marsh (request stop)
    Warminster
    Salisbury
    with the inclusion of "Journey planner" You could set up and stop at any station.
    There is mixture of freight lots happening at Westbury , Bristol and salisbury towards for Southampton Docks and frequent commuter services down the line making it ideal if you get off a stop you have time to look around in detail and then quickly get going again.

    Please note all references for this proposal at are the bottom of the document

    Origin
    BRISTOL TEMPLE MEADS

    Bristol temple meads was opened in 1840 on August 31. The station consisted of only an arrival and departure platform. It first served trains that went from Bristol to bath. It wasn't untill 1841 that the great western railway route of London to Bristol was opened.
    Because of increased demands between 1871 and 1876 Bristol temple meads expanded. The station at this time consisted of 9 platforms. Having access down to Exeter and Gloucestershire. In 1929 GWR at the time were able to increase the platform size of the station by taking advantage of interest free government loans. Temple meads increased from 9 to 15.
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    - Modern image of Bristol temple meads

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    Bristol temple meads in a key hub in the west of England. It connects us to the Midlands and North, the great western mainline to the capital. It connects passengers down to the south east. To the south of England and connects passengers with Wales. Millions of passengers rely on this station.

    Westbury

    Westbury train station was constructed and opened by Wilts somerset and weymouth railway in 1848. This station started out as a terminus for chippenham. The line got extended out to frome in 1850. It was not untill 1856 that the salisbury branch line was opened to serve this station.

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    Credit Wiki

    Today. Westbury is a key station in wiltshire. Connecting us with major stations such as Bristol , London , Salisbury , Weymouth, Exeter and plymouth to change for penzance. I am very grateful I live close by this station as you can easily get across the country where ever you want to go.

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    Dilton Marsh

    Dilton Marsh halt was opened in 1937 June 1st. Dilton marsh halt station had two wooden platforms. The cost of the construction at the time was £1,134. At the time there was not a ticket office. You had to buy a ticket up the road where a local woman known as Mrs H Roberts sold tickets from here home. In 1969 the name Dilton marsh halt was shortened to "Dilton Marsh" as it is known today. But during this time up to 1994. British rail had plans to close the station. Thankfully from local support this did not happen. And the platforms were rebuilt using concrete.

    A few years ago now, Dilton Marsh station got platform extensions. So that a full length carriage(Yes a full one) could stop. Although you can still only alight from the front coach.
    If your on the platform you have wave to the driver so the train stops. If your on the train planning to stop at the station its advised you sit in the front coach and tell the conductor you want to leave the train at Dilton.
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    Walk way up to platform 1
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    Before being upgraded
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    Upgraded work finished at Dilton Marsh
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    Dilton Marsh has the award for being Wiltshires least used station. As in the video by Geoff Marshall
    This is worth a watch.
    Do check out his channel for other train related content including his fantastic journey "All the stations".

    Salisbury
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    London and south western railway opened a train station in Milford in east of the city in 1847 which opened with a branch line from Eastleigh. In 1856 the line from Westbury was opened. Then in 1857 the mainline got extended from London and Andover to Salisbury.
    Salisbury train depot
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    Inside Salisbury train station
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    Salisbury station connects passengers to the capital at Waterloo station, down to southampton central, to Exeter , to Westbury , Bristol , Cardiff central. Salisbury also has a lovely cathedral.

    So what you waiting for

    If you would like a whole days worth exploring this route. The West route of the "Great West
    way discover pass" lets you travel from Bristol down to salisbury and more for just £24. Railcard users can get an extra 10% off.
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    Bristol temple meads
    https://www.networkrail.co.uk/who-w.../the-history-of-bristol-temple-meads-station/
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...railway_station_MMB_82_220XXX_43154_43127.jpg

    Westbury
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westbury_railway_station#:~:text=The station was opened by the Wilts, Somerset,to Frome, which opened on 7 October 1850.
    http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.o...-december-2018-copyright-guy-vincent_orig.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westbury_railway_station#/media/File:Westbury_routes.png

    Dilton Marsh
    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/hJEAAOSwwbdWHU61/s-l300.jpg
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cr55MLNzz8c/Uz1jIDh-tiI/AAAAAAAABRo/UXjkLg85rfI/s1600/DSC_1995.JPG
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...0px-Dilton_Marsh_new_platform_and_shelter.jpg
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Dilton_Marsh_station.JPG
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cr55MLNzz8c/Uz1jIDh-tiI/AAAAAAAABRo/UXjkLg85rfI/s1600/DSC_1995.JPG
    Geoff Marshall Channel
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCd18OhMfRmjMjzSHP7Zrzmw

    Salisbury
    http://radfanhunters.co.uk/Images-208/Picture.1..jpg
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...alisbury_Traincare_Depot_-_SWT_159006_etc.JPG
    https://cml.sad.ukrd.com/image/599519-500x281.jpg
    https://cml.sad.ukrd.com/image/462320.jpg
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salisbury_railway_station#/media/File:Salisbury_railways.png
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salisbury_railway_station

    GWR day pass
    https://www.gwr.com/plan-journey/tickets-railcards-and-season-tickets/great-west-way
    References
     
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  2. tokatails08

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    It would be amazing to have that line in the game but I thinks it’s way too long for TSW, I’m not sure what’s TSW2 is route length is like but I doubt they will get past 70km or 45 miles. They might try Bristol to Cardiff or Swindon to Cardiff but I really don’t think they will have Southampton to Bristol as a full line
     
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  3. teilekind

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    there is no limit in the game other than man power/cost for route length
     
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    I thought there’s a limit with consoles as they can only process so much, I’ve checked the TSW2 article and I’m not sure if they will extend route sizes, hopefully they do though.
     
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    Well Doesn't that route used to be operated by 442s if so please give it us
     
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    Route length???????????
     
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    442s would struggle as this route isn't Electric. While initially marketed as Wessex Electrics they ran on the SWML

    I'm going to say this will be unlikely soon because there is a recent JT route for TS Classic covering the northern half of the proposal. I don't think DTG are keen to stomp on third party releases.
     
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  8. WVUadam

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    The route in total is over 100 miles by car. So don't that would happen.

    But Bristol to Salisbury is 51 miles by car.
    That could seriously work. Look how much afford they put in the new German route 30 stations.
     
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    Okay maybe just the route from Bristol to Salisbury. Hope can get more support.
     
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    51 miles
    Bristol to Salisbury by car.

    Over 100 for Southampton
     
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    Even if it was just from Bristol to Salisbury that would be great.
     
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    WVUadam Active Member

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    Bristol to Salisbury could be a route that could be made.
     
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    100 miles total.

    51 miles Bristol to Salisbury
     
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    Salisbury GWR station was open around 1848 but that closed in 1935 and is now the SWR 158/9 depot, trains currently use the old Southern station which was originally built 1859 which was rebuilt in 1900/2 to it's current state.
    No 442's EMU's as there is no Third rail in the area.
    166 DMU's are on the Weymouth line from Bristol as far as Westbury, I believe 166 units also work to Portsmouth also.
     
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  15. WVUadam

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    What do you think of the content that I've put up now. Trying to gain more support
     
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    Am not sure to be honest
     
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    No 442 Units as there is NO live rail to power the route! the name of the unit is not connected with the lines name. Wessex route came post BR and Network Southeast. Wessex Electrics (442's) came in 1988 under NSE, They are not connected!

    To the OP Well I heard you promotion on the stream about the Road Map. As for the content well the route is a bit of a strange one for me, Salisbury crews only work Waterloo Bristol trains on SWT and now SWR the GWR is worked through by Portsmouth, Westbury and Bristol crews. Operation is mostly Units 150, 158/9 and 166's Something I'm not into personally. would you be doing the stone trains off Westbury?

    Back in 1988 before the May Timetable it was 33/0's with 5 MK1 coaches and 117 DMU's far more interesting for me personally.
     

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