Train Sim World 3 West Anglia Mainline: London Liverpool St-cambridge/stansted Airport

Hello all, TrainGeek08 here, and today I'm suggesting the West Anglia Mainline for TSW3 because it has a great mix of services (more on that in a second) and it'll feature two new trains to the TSW franchise

This route and the LAMP process:
As touched on in the April Roadmap, DTG shared how they pick routes for TSW3, this is by using the LAMP process:

L - Licensing
A - Anticipation
M - Mix
P - Prominence

So how does the WAML link into the LAMP process:
L - only one license is required for the trains, that being the Greater Anglia license, but for stations, you'll need the London Overground license for Bethnal Green for example, so there's that to consider when developing this route

A - I think the community will like a route like this, you could compare this to a route like Birmingham Cross-City or Cathcart Circle, Cross-City in particular was a hit with the majority of the community and if made well, this route would have that same effect after release

M - Yes, the WAML has a mix in services, you have stopping services towards Hertford East or Cambridge plus the Stansted Express services to Stansted Airport, if you add the Overground lines to Cheshunt as well, then the mix gets a bit better as then you have two operators to choose from: LO or GA

P - I think this route has many landmarks, notably Stansted Airport at the top right corner of the route and the two bustling cities of London and Cambridge at each end of the route, commercially, I feel this route will do well

With that out of the way, let's get back to normality with my suggestions shall we?

Stock included in base route:


The British Rail Class 317 EMU




And the British Rail Class 745 'FLIRT' EMU

Training (In Training Center):
Class 317 Introduction
Class 745 Introduction

Scenarios:
Prep Work: (Difficulty - 1)
It's the start of the day and your 317 is cold, power it up and drive it empty into Cambridge ready for the inbound run into London

Stansted Express: (Difficulty - 2)
Drive a 745 from London Liverpool St to Stansted Airport on a Stansted Express, rain is expected, so be careful out there

Broken Three 1 Seven: (Difficulty - 4)
A 317 has broken down at Harlow Town, blocking the lines towards London, drive a 317 empty from Cambridge down to Harlow Town, pick it up, and then drag it back to Cambridge Sidings for inspection

Stop FLIRTing: (Difficulty - 2)
Drive a 745 on a service from Stansted Airport to London Liverpool St whilst industrial action is taking place so you are the only FLIRT out today, stop flirting with the 745

One Unit Down: (Difficulty - 3)
Drive a 317 from London Liverpool St to Cambridge during the evening peak whilst on a tight schedule and are down one unit as the pantograph on the back unit has failed, control have said to keep it dead on the rear and will sort out this mess at Cambridge

Timetable:
2019 Working Timetable

Potential DLC, Layers & Stations coming up on Pages 2-4...

 

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Potential DLC:


The British Rail Class 720 'Aventra' EMU

Training (In Training Center):
Class 720 Introduction

Scenarios:
Hertford Aventra: (Difficulty - 2)
Drive a 720 from Hertford East to London Liverpool St on the first 720 service ever

Cambridge Express: (Difficulty - 1)
Drive a 720 from London Liverpool St to Cambridge on a special express service

FLIRTing with an Aventra? (Difficulty - 2)
A 745 has broken down between Broxbourne & Cheshunt, drive a 720 from Meridian Water empty to collect the train and drag it back to Tottenham Hale before traversing the Lea Valley Lines to get back to Ilford E.M.U.D

Timetable:
Incorporated into base TT

OR...



The British Rail Class 755 'FLIRT' EMU (the 745s shorter & bi-modal counterpart)

Training (In Training Center):
Class 755 Introduction

Scenarios:
Stansted Hopper: (Difficulty - 1)
Drive a 755 from Cambridge to Stansted Airport on a nice summer's day

Nice FLIRTing Journey: (Difficulty - 2)
Drive a 755 through a rainstorm from Stansted to Cambridge on a Norwich-bound service

That's the FLIRTing done for one day: (Difficulty - 1)
It's the end of the day, shunt this 755 from Cambridge station back to the depot after a hard day's work going to Norwich and Ipswich

Timetable:
Incorporated into base TT

Layers:


The British Rail Class 66 'Shed' (Stop stalking me in my suggestions ) (SEHS) in GBRF livery (licensing permitting ofc) for aggregates services in/out of Harlow Mill

Stations:

Cambridge:


Cambridge railway station is the principal station serving the city of Cambridge in the east of England. It stands at the end of Station Road, 1 mile (1.6 km) south-east of the city centre. It is the northern terminus of the West Anglia Main Line, 55 miles 52 chains (89.6 km) down the line from London Liverpool Street, the southern terminus.

Shelford:


Shelford railway station is on the West Anglia Main Line serving the villages of Great Shelford, Little Shelford and Stapleford in Cambridgeshire, England. It is 52 miles 36 chains (84.4 km) down the line from London Liverpool Street and is situated between Whittlesford Parkway and Cambridge. Its three-letter station code is SED.

Whittlesford Parkway:


Whittlesford Parkway railway station is on the West Anglia Main Line serving the village of Whittlesford in Cambridgeshire, England. It is 49 miles 1 chain (78.9 km) down the line from London Liverpool Street and is situated between Great Chesterford and Shelford stations. Its three-letter station code is WLF.

Great Chesterford:


Great Chesterford railway station is on the West Anglia Main Line serving the village of Great Chesterford in Essex, England. It is 45 miles 56 chains (73.5 km) down the line from London Liverpool Street and is situated between Audley End and Whittlesford Parkway stations. Its three-letter station code is GRC.

Audley End:


Audley End railway station is on the West Anglia Main Line serving the village of Wendens Ambo and the town of Saffron Walden in Essex, England. It is 41 miles 55 chains (67.1 km) down the line from London Liverpool Street and is situated between Newport and Great Chesterford stations. Its three-letter station code is AUD.

Newport (Essex):


Newport railway station is on the West Anglia Main Line serving the village of Newport in Essex, England. It is 39 miles 72 chains (64.2 km) down the line from London Liverpool Street and is situated between Elsenham and Audley End stations. Its three-letter station code is NWE. The station and all trains serving it are operated by Greater Anglia. It is sometimes printed as Newport (Essex) on tickets and timetables in order to distinguish it from other similarly-named stations.

Elsenham:


Elsenham railway station is on the West Anglia Main Line serving the village of Elsenham in Essex, England. It is 35 miles 45 chains (57.2 km) down the line from London Liverpool Street and is situated between Stansted Mountfitchet and Newport stations. Its three-letter station code is ESM.

Stansted Airport branch:

Stansted Airport:


Stansted Airport railway station is on a branch line off the West Anglia Main Line in the east of England and was opened in 1991 to provide a rail link to London Stansted Airport. It is 36 miles 67 chains (59.3 km) down the line from London Liverpool Street station, to which a frequent dedicated service called the Stansted Express operates.

Stansted Mountfitchet-Brimsdown on Page 3...

 

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Stansted Mountfitchet:


Stansted Mountfitchet railway station is on the West Anglia Main Line serving the village of Stansted Mountfitchet in Essex, England. It is 33 miles 28 chains (53.7 km) down the line from London Liverpool Street and is situated between Bishop's Stortford and Elsenham on the main line; Stansted Airport station follows on the airport branch. Its three-letter station code is SST.

Bishop's Stortford:


Bishop's Stortford railway station is on the West Anglia Main Line serving the town of Bishop's Stortford in Hertfordshire, England. It is 30 miles 27 chains (48.8 km) down the line from London Liverpool Street and is situated between Sawbridgeworth and Stansted Mountfitchet stations. Its three-letter station code is BIS.

Sawbridgeworth:


Sawbridgeworth railway station is on the West Anglia Main Line serving the town of Sawbridgeworth in Hertfordshire, England. It is 26 miles 57 chains (43.0 km) down the line from London Liverpool Street and is situated between Harlow Mill and Bishop's Stortford stations. Its three-letter station code is SAW.

Harlow Mill:


Harlow Mill railway station is on the West Anglia Main Line serving the eastern part of Harlow in Essex, England. It is 24 miles 36 chains (39.3 km) down the line from London Liverpool Street and is situated between Harlow Town and Sawbridgeworth stations. Its three-letter station code is HWM.

Harlow Town:


Harlow Town railway station is on the West Anglia Main Line serving the town of Harlow in Essex, England. It is 22 miles 59 chains (36.6 km) down the line from London Liverpool Street and is situated between Roydon and Harlow Mill stations. Its three-letter station code is HWN.

Roydon:


Roydon railway station is on the West Anglia Main Line serving the village of Roydon in Essex, England. It is 20 miles 9 chains (32.4 km) down the line from London Liverpool Street and is situated between Broxbourne and Harlow Town stations. Its three-letter station code is RYN.

Broxbourne:


Broxbourne railway station is on the West Anglia Main Line serving the towns of Broxbourne and Hoddesdon in Hertfordshire, England. It is 17 miles 17 chains (27.7 km) down the line from London Liverpool Street and is situated between Cheshunt and Roydon. Its three-letter station code is BXB and it is in fare zone B.

Cheshunt: (NOT Chestnut )


Cheshunt is a National Rail and London Overground station in Cheshunt, Hertfordshire, England. On the National Rail network it is on the West Anglia Main Line, 14 miles 1 chain (22.6 km) from London Liverpool Street and situated between Waltham Cross and Broxbourne. On the London Overground network it is one of three northern termini of the Lea Valley lines.

Waltham Cross:


Waltham Cross railway station is on the West Anglia Main Line, serving the suburban town of Waltham Cross in Hertfordshire, and the neighbouring Waltham Abbey in Essex, England. It is 12 miles 63 chains (20.6 km) down the line from London Liverpool Street and is situated between Enfield Lock and Cheshunt. Its three-letter station code is WLC and it is in Travelcard zone 7.

Enfield Lock: (not Town... not Chase... Lock!!!)


Enfield Lock railway station is on the West Anglia Main Line, it is in Enfield Lock in the London Borough of Enfield, London. It is 11 miles 65 chains (19.0 km) down the line from London Liverpool Street and is situated between Brimsdown and Waltham Cross. Its three-letter station code is ENL and it is in Travelcard zone 6.

Brimsdown:


Brimsdown railway station is on the Lea Valley line that forms part of the West Anglia Main Line, serving the neighbourhood of Brimsdown in the London Borough of Enfield, north London. It is 10 miles 61 chains (17.3 km) down the line from London Liverpool Street and is situated between Ponders End and Enfield Lock. Its three-letter station code is BMD and it is in Travelcard zone 5.

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Ponders End:


Ponders End railway station is on the West Anglia Main Line, serving the district of Ponders End in the London Borough of Enfield, north London. It is 9 miles 71 chains (15.9 km) down the line from London Liverpool Street and is located between Meridian Water and Brimsdown. Its three-letter station code is PON and it is in Travelcard zone 5.

Angel Roa... sorry Meridian Water:


Meridian Water railway station is on the Lea Valley Lines in Edmonton in the London Borough of Enfield, north London. It opened on 3 June 2019. The station is approximately 580 metres (630 yd) south of the closed Angel Road railway station, which Meridian Water has replaced.

Northumberland Park:


Northumberland Park railway station is on the Lea Valley line that forms part of the West Anglia Main Line, serving the ward of Northumberland Park in Tottenham, north London. It is 6 miles 73 chains (11.1 km) down the line from London Liverpool Street and is situated between Tottenham Hale and Meridian Water. Its three-letter station code is NUM and it is in Travelcard zone 3. It is one of the stations that can be used to access Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. The station and all trains serving it are operated by Greater Anglia. The station was upgraded starting 2017 to add an extra track and a new island platform. It had one of north London's few level crossings to its immediate north, but this was removed in the rebuilding of the station as a result of the STAR (Stratford to Angel Road) project. Northumberland Park Depot for the London Underground's Victoria line is sited adjacent to the station and it is close to Tottenham Hotspur Football Club.

Tottenham Hale:


Tottenham Hale is a National Rail and London Underground interchange station located in Tottenham Hale in north London, England. On the National Rail network it is on the West Anglia Main Line, 6 miles (9.7 km) from London Liverpool Street, and is served by Greater Anglia and Stansted Express. On the Underground it is on the Victoria line between Blackhorse Road and Seven Sisters. The station is in Travelcard Zone 3.

Hackney Downs:


Hackney Downs is a London Overground and National Rail station in Hackney Central and serves the old common land of Hackney Downs in Lower Clapton in the London Borough of Hackney, it is on the Lea Valley lines and West Anglia Main Line. It is 2 miles 78 chains (4.8 km) down the line from London Liverpool Street and has a direct passenger link to Hackney Central station, providing interchange with the North London line of the Overground network.

London Fields:


London Fields is a London Overground station on the Lea Valley Lines, serving the district of London Fields in the London Borough of Hackney, east London. It is 2 miles 35 chains (3.9 km) down-line from London Liverpool Street and is situated between Cambridge Heath and Hackney Downs. Its three-letter station code is LOF and it is in Travelcard zone 2.

Cambridge Heath:


Cambridge Heath is a railway station operated by London Overground in Bethnal Green, East London. The station is 1 mile 61 chains (2.8 km) down the line from London Liverpool Street and is situated between Bethnal Green and London Fields on the Lea Valley lines to Cheshunt and Enfield Town. Its three-letter station code is CBH and it is in Travelcard zone 2.

Bethnal Green:


Bethnal Green is a London Overground station on the Lea Valley lines in the southern part of Bethnal Green, in East London. The station is 1 mile 10 chains (1.8 kilometres) down the line from London Liverpool Street; the next station is either Hackney Downs (on the Chingford branch) or Cambridge Heath (on the route to Cheshunt and Enfield Town). It is an interchange station between three services operated by London Overground. Its three-letter station code is BET and it is in Travelcard zone 2.

London Liverpool St:


Liverpool Street station, also known as London Liverpool Street, is a central London railway terminus and connected London Underground station in the north-eastern corner of the City of London, in the ward of Bishopsgate Without. It is the terminus of the West Anglia Main Line to Cambridge, the Great Eastern Main Line to Norwich, commuter trains serving east London and destinations in the East of England, and the Stansted Express service to Stansted Airport.

That's the West Anglia mainline in a nutshell, put your thoughts below (a couple of you have done so already) and I've been TrainGeek08 as always, that LAMP process layout is gonna become a permanent feature on these suggestions from here on out, anyway, see you next time, goodbye

 

I know, you've said about three times now

 

I have got to be honest mate I was a bit sceptical until I saw a 317 and then I knew it was just another one of your excellent suggestions.

Brilliant suggestion mate and it would eventually bring the East into TSW too which would be brilliant.

 

Lol I didn’t realise there were multiple parts to the post at first lol

 

Fair enough

 

Yep, another one of those brilliant suggestions, this needs to be implemented in game in the future

 

Amazing suggestion, i like the flirt jokes, and the creativity with the scenarios, espically the 1 unit down scenario, but what about the class 720 and 379? those units would be cool, and il defintly buy this route for a good price as well, lets say: £16 would be a good price

 

Your suggestions are the Jags or Bentleys of suggestions mate.
It would be brilliant to see any route in the East implemented!

 

Glad you like the scenario ideas, I'm good at them

720 is listed under Potential DLC, the 379 however, the reason why it's not included (it may sound silly) is because we have three Electrostars in game already but if DTG wants to go down the Electrostar route again, just replace the 745 with the 379

 

Haven't been compared to car manufacturers before but yeah

I'd agree, the Eastern side of the UK needs represented in game, that side of the UK is bare in terms of TSW routes at the moment

 

but there is dc only eletctrostars in game and its about time we have some ac ones, so a 379 would be nice but also a 755 would be cool

 

Yeah, that's fair, like I said if DTG wanted an AC Electrostar to be represented, just replace it with the 745 as the 379 is the 745s predecessor

 

cool,

 

Haha first time for everything mate! Don't worry it was a compliment!!

Yes rather frustrating for me considering I call the east home so there aren't really any routes which represent my area of the country. Saying that this line is probably further away from me that the upcoming MML route but there we go.

 

I know it was intended as a compliment mate

Yep, totally understandable, all this talk about no routes in London and they pick the Midlands and North West like the Eastern regions don't exist or something

 

Jolly good thought you probably did but you never know!

Yes it is strange as it's not like all the lines here are insignificant as there is the ECML and GEML along with others such as this line which are just as if not busier and more well known than others in the game. I hope 2023 will be the year we eventually see the East represented in game.

 

We can only hope

 

Bring it into the game then and speaking of this one

Why not make a level 3-4 difficulty scenario to which your electrical OHLE system as failed and you must arrive to Liverpool St on Diesel power from Cambridge. Class 755 is code E Electro-Diesel

 

Not a bad scenario idea actually, didn't think of that one, taking advantage of the 755s diesel power I see

 

I am you on that one and I based it off one of the four difficulties scenarios we have that is seen on Bahnstrecke Düsseldorf Wuppertal Steinbeck Hagen Hbf Rhein Ruhr Osten where you must use the emergency pantograph release button to go on further.

 

Is that the 185 one where you get emergency braked because the pantograph lowers? If it is, something like that would be cool to redo for not just this but any route

 

Absolutely correct that's the one I'm talking about. in the case of WAML using Class 755 once your pantograph has developed a fault continue to London Liverpool Street on diesel because your pantograph electrical system has broken down. To make it challenging have that occur during rush hour. Other trains that can do this are 800 & 802 future 805 807 810.

 

Indeed

 

807 is fully electric

 

So which one is bi mode between 810 805 & 807? Because they all look identical to each other and for 755 802 800 these trains can then go on on diesel power if electric 25kv 50hz AC system has broken down. No diesel engine power on these dual modes end at last electric station

 

800, 802, 805, 810. The 801,803 and 807 are pure EMU

 

Find that helpful and for WAML 755 followed by 800 802 805 810 these can have scenarios to which electric system has broken down and you must finish the journey on Diesel Power.

 

yep

 

With the main part of the WAML, it would be a good idea to also include the Enfield Town and Chingford branches along with the branch from Tottenham Hale to Stratford so that London Overground can be included with the class 710 or the 315 and 317 as a livery expansion pack.

 

Yep, I'd be happy if the Lea Valley Lines were added in with this DLC as well and the branch to Stratford, means the 710 will become a base train and the 315/317 can come in a DLC pack for layering capabilities

 

805 is bi mode to replace 221s and the 810 is bi mode to replace 222s and 180s (810s actually don't look anything like the other IEP's which is nice because we won't be seeing the same thing copy pasted on every mainline

 

I would get this in ONE era because it looked so nice seeing the class 90s, 170s, and 156s in that beautiful livery

 

I don't think you'll see the 90 on this route except for between Bethnal Green and London Liverpool Street, which is around 5 mins, so no point unless the GEML was made and it could be a layer

The 170s and 156s I don't believe operated on this line either during the ONE era, I think it was WAGN (West Anglia Great Northern) with 315s & 317s I believe, however the 170s or 156s could layer at Cambridge for the Norwich services, again if backdated

 

I think this would be an interesting route especially with a nice full length run. I think it would benefit if it came as you suggest with one of those Flirt things and a class 317 to give that balance between old and new.

You do come up with some good and detailed suggestions.

 

Yeah, I feel that the balance is there as the 317 is some old guard and the 745 is 'the new kid on the block' so like you, I feel the route will benefit

Thanks, my intention for creating these suggestions is for DTG to look at them and take some ideas for routes and locos, plus the detail and layout makes it unique to me, you know when you read one of my suggestions when I list every station on the line and do it on numerous different pages

 

those are like the only trains I knew GA had in the ONE time

 

Yeah, that's alright, a suitable route for the 170s and 156s is the Wherry Lines, then have that in your ONE era for the livery and have a short stub of the GEML to Diss for either playable or AI 90-hauled services

 

As TrainGeek08 confirms there's very little diesel traction needed for WAML as there's no diagrammed diesel traction south of Stansted Airport aside from RHTT runs. Cross Country run 170s there. Loco-hauled services to Cambridge and beyond ceased after 1990, having recently been served with NSE liveried 47s and Mk 2s
So for WAML services the multiple units you'd need;
1960 - 1962 Class 302
1962 - 1983 Cl 305
1984 - 1987 Cl 305/315
1988 - 1991 Cl 302/305/310/315/321/322
1992 - 1994 Cl 305/315/317/322
1995 - 2001 Cl 315/317/322
2002- 2010 Cl 315/317
2011-2019 Cl 315/317/379
2020 - 2022 Cl 317/379/710/720/745/755
2023 - Cl 710/720/745/755

Take your pick.

 

Fantastic detailed suggestion especially the nice mixture of having the old Class 317 with the new Class 745 FLIRT. If this route was made in future I would consider getting it.

 

Thanks for that, I thought no diesel traction ran on the WAML, loads of different EMUs for different time periods, so DTG have a range to choose from if they wanted to backdate it

 

Thanks, having that balance is great, might attract more people into buying the DLC if it's made

I'd definitely get the route if it was well made and the trains sound like they should

 

Mmm a 302, 305 and 310, I would love to see those represented in any of the sims. There has been very little older generation AC electric EMU's represented in any of the sims although I believe some are being developed for TSC.

 

I'd love more routes set during transitional periods with a mixture of new and old traction,

 

From what I understand they can be formed existing Mk1 & Mk2 coaches. Considering the fact that British electrical multiple units for British Railways in the 1950s-1970s tend to be built on Mk1 & Mk2 coaches. For starters Class 310 mk2 302 305 Mk1 based. From The Mark 1 the same Carriage can be modified to make Brighton Mainline Legends 4CEP 4REP 4CIG & 4VEP Mk2 can then be used to make BCC WAML GEML Class 312.