Train Sim World 3 West Anglia Mainline

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  1. pessitheghost

    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    The West Anglia Main Line is one of the two main lines that operate out of Liverpool street and King’s cross/St Pancras International (one of the 3) (the other(s) being the Great Eastern to Ipswich and Norwich and the East Coast to Yorkshire and Scotland, HS1 to the south east and continental Europe and the Midland Mainline to Manchester, Liverpool and South Yorkshire). It runs generally north through Stevenage, Welwyn, Letchworth, Royston, Cheshunt, Broxbourne ,Harlow, Bishops Stortford and Audley End (near Saffron Walden) to Cambridge, with branches between serving Stratford, Hertford and Stanstead Airport and on from beyond Cambridge to Kings Lynn . The line from Liverpool Street runs along the boundary between Hertfordshire and Essex for much of its length, while the King’s cross Route runs through deep hertfordshire and joins with the mainline from Liverpool Street just before cambridge. The 4 operators on this route are Great Northern, Cross Country, Thameslink and Greater Anglia. The route length from King’s cross/St Pancras Intl. sits at about 47 miles (to Cambridge) and 62 miles (to Ely), with possible TSW extensions to Kings Lynn about 25 miles north of Ely. From Liverpool Street the route distance is about the same length as from king’s cross/St Pancras. Thameslink trains can layer onto the Brighton Mainline and SEHS
    ROUTE MAP
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    (From Liverpool Street)

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    (FROM KING’s CROSS/ST PANCRAS INTL)


    STATIONS:
    (King’s cross Branch)
    King’s cross/St Pancras Intl.
    Finsbury Park
    Harringey
    Hornsey
    Alexandra Palace
    New Southgate
    Oakleigh Park
    New Barnet
    Hadley Wood
    Potters Bar
    Brookmans Park
    Welham Green
    Hatfield
    Welwyn Garden City
    Welwyn North
    Knebworth
    Stevenage
    Hitchin
    Letchworth Garden City
    Baldock
    Ashwell and Morden
    Royston
    Meldreth
    Shepreth
    Foxton
    Cambridge
    Cambridge North
    Waterbeach
    Ely

    FROM LIVERPOOL STREET
    Liverpool Street
    Bethnal Green
    Cambridge Heath
    London Fields
    Hackney Central
    Hackney Downs
    Clapton
    Tottenham Hale
    Northumberland Park
    Meridian Water
    Ponders End
    Brimsdown
    Enfield Lock
    Waltham Cross
    Cheshunt
    Broxbourne
    Roydon
    Harlow Town
    Harlow Mill
    Sawbridgeworth
    Bishops Stortford
    Stanstead Mountfitchet
    Stanstead Airport
    Elsenham
    Newport
    Audley End
    Great Chesterford
    Whittlesford Parkway
    Shelford
    Cambridge
    EXTENSION Stations:
    Littleport
    Downham Market
    Watlington
    Kings Lynn

    TRAINS:
    MANDATORY
    Class 700 (Thameslink)
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    Class 387
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    FOR LIVERPOOL ST
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    Class 745/755
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  2. pessitheghost

    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    Class 720

    Class 379 (STANSTEAD XPRESS)
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    DLC:
    Class 717
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    Class 800
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    Class 710:
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    Electric Legends of West Anglia
    Electric Legends of West Anglia includes a plethora of trains including the iconic Class 365, Class 321, Class 317s, Class 314s, etc

    Final Comments:

    This would be a good DLC for TSW As it is only about 47 miles from KGX/ST Pancras/ Liverpool St and we get loads of services. Runtime can last from an hour to over two hours, and can be merged/ released as separate dlc’s and Stanstead express trains can work on the liverpool street stations along with layered in overground trains. We can also get slow stoppers to cambridge and fast trains to ely with a possible Kings Lynn Extension bringing overall mileage to about 82 miles making it useable in train sim world 3, because of diversity of services and a more packed timetable. The base route itself is shorter than Glasgow - Edinburgh and with the full line is shorter than southeastern high speed with the same frequency services as London Commuter making it perfect for all types of rail fans

    SCENARIOS
    Electrostar Express!
    Drive a class 387 from King’s cross non stop to Cambridge and Call at Cambridge, Cambridge North, Waterbridge And Ely

    Mainline Mania
    Drive a late rush hour service from Cambridge to Liverpool street on a heavy winter timetable, schedules are tight and you must be on time!!

    Varsity Line
    Drive a Fast Early Morning service from liverpool street to cambridge making stops at Cheshunt, Bishops Stortford and Cambridge

    Thameslink Troubles
    Drive the 16:38 service from sevenoaks to cambridge from st pancras intl, beware the broken down 16:30 to Ely is slowing your timetable.

    Stanstead Speedway
    Drive a semi fast stanstead express train making stops at Tottenham Hale, Bishops Stortford, Harlow Town and Stanstead Mountfitchet

    East Coast Electrostar
    Drive a semi fast 387 to Ely.

    DLC Scenarios
    Non Stop To Norfolk:
    Drive a fast service non stop south of Cambridge to Kings Lynn calling at Stevenage, Cambridge and Ely.


    Anglia Amusments:
    Drive a peak service from Liverpool Street to Kings Lynn.
     
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  3. pessitheghost

    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    Give thoughts and Extra comments below
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Excellent idea but Class 801 800 don't run here instead those use ECML King's Cross Peterborough
     
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    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    yes, but it would be sort of a King’s cross - Stevenage thing :) but i agree i wouldn’t add it in unless there’s a dedicated route for it
     
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    Might be just me or should the class 317 be included.
     
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  7. tibomatthijs

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    More modern UK trains, yep i'm fully here for it!! Theres some good rolling stock that can be included which can also be used on other routes (Class 700 BML hint hint ;) ). Also a route in a newer area (we already have Liverpool in SoS but the old one) is always fun!
     
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    Ah yes would be a great addition to it! Some ultra modern stock with some older stock for more variation is amazing!
     
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    liverpool street and liverpool lime street are 2 very different things:)
     
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  10. AirbourneAlex

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    It would either be Cambridge to London Liverpool Street or London King's Cross/St Pancras, both routes would likely take too long to build for a single add-on. Personally I would like to see King's Cross/St Pancras to Peterborough, with perhaps Liverpool Street to Cambridge following later on, with stock from the former layering onto the latter in the Cambridge area.

    It would be great to have some Bombardier/Alstom Aventra family EMUs in-game too, the Class 710 and Class 720 would be most appropriate for a Lea Valley Lines/West Anglia Main Line route. There's been a lot of new train types entering into service in the UK in the last few years and it would be ideal if more of these were represented.
     
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  11. pessitheghost

    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    It would be like SEHS ashford extension, you’d have two terminating points (Kings Lynn And Peterborough) on the Ecml, and the WAML from Liverpool street would be a extension with the starting point being cambridge
     
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    It would more likely work similar to East Coastway/London Commuter at Brighton, where the ECML and WAML segments share Cambridge as a common location but are separate routes. Whether they could then be merged together in the future is dependent on that becoming a thing.
     
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    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    yeah or something like that the ECML runs to Kings Lynn and the WAML runs to cambridge with both origin points at cambridge
     
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  14. tardisgaming07

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    realistically, only one of Cambridge to Kings Cross/Liverpool Street would be done, with included stock probably being a 745/55 and the 710
     
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  15. pessitheghost

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    i’d rather it on greater anglia, more variety you have the 745/55s the Class 720 and the Class 379
     
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