If we were to put this in the perspective of a normal Train Sim World 3 Route, it would be around 50 - 60 Miles. So today I'm suggesting, probably the 500th time now . West Coast Mainline South: London Euston to Milton Keynes Central. Length: 50 Miles (Please Correct me if wrong) Trains: Class 350/1 & Class 390/0 (Aswell as 390/1) DLC: 319/4, Class 221/1, Class 377/2 Layers: 1972 Stock Mark 2, Class 66, LMS Jubilee, Class 47, Class 40. Stations: London Euston Wembley Central Harrow & Wealdstone Bushey Watford Junction King's Langley Apsley Hemel Hempstead Berkhamsted Tring Cheddington Leighton Buzzard Bletchley Milton Keynes Central Services: London Northwestern Railway: Birmingham New Street - London Euston. Northampton - London Euston. [Start from Milton Keynes Central/End At Milton Keynes Central - AI Will continue) Milton Keynes Central to London Euston. Bletchley to London Euston. Tring to London Euston. [Full Service] Avanti West Coast: Services will start/end at Milton Keynes as talking over from AI or leaving for AI to take over and continue, some services that don't call at Watford Junction nor Milton Keynes Central will not be playable. Possibly a Bundle for this route would be good but if the route was London Euston to Birmingham New Street, a bundle could come with out with old and new trains.
I’d prefer in the mid 90s with Class 86, 87 and 90. More variety than todays railway for freight, shunting and parcels traffic
Bring it on you are missing Class 325 to permit access to Royal mail Willesden postal facility Class 92 Caledonian sleeper Freight class 90 Freight Service
That’s an odd place to end the route as a lot of Avanti trains don’t stop until Rugby, or further north, why not let it go to Bham which is another 73 miles (as MKC is 50 miles)
quite a few do stop, if the route were to be ending here then the non-stop avanti services should end at a 'go via' waypoint
Or they could do what they did with the Acela on Nyt and have all services stop at Milton Keynes even though its not 100% accurate.
I don’t usually pile in on these suggestion threads because they are usually somewhat absurd. But this is a sensible suggestion actually. You have a chance to meander along the slow line in freight or semi fast passenger etc and you also have the fast stuff as well. Good variety of traffic, would require a Desiro/Pendolino and Voyager to be created. Would need the yard at Wembley created. Would need the low level goods line from West London Jnc to Sudbury Jnc to be included. Not a bad idea overall this one though.
It’s not. About an hour on a stopper and about 30 mins on a fast I think. There’s plenty to see and plenty of infrastructure. Consoles and i would imagine a lot of PCs can only take so much, so much better to do small to medium length routes anyway and so if they have the option to go fast or slow even better. Those people who go on about wanting London to Glasgow etc etc really don’t understand how unfeasible that is!
I don’t want London to Glasgow? Never implied that. I do want London to Birmingham, because we already have Birmingham in the game and it’s literally 63 miles north of Milton Keynes, so if it gets added it would be 113 miles, which isn’t even the longest route in this game. would rather have the TSC version than a half arsed TSW 50 mile “medium” route
Kassel-Wurzburg could get away with it considering it’s a narrow high speed line with minimal traffic/landmarks apart from the stations. It would take significantly more to simulate the mainline traffic, track, signalling and scenery for London to Birmingham. Unless DTG manage a way to do that without major bugs and issues, it’s almost impossible. Furthermore, you forget TSW 3 is still played on old gen consoles, it would be impossible to run it on there.
That’s fine.. I would rather wait for old gen to get cut off than to get a 50 mile WCMLS, when those resources could have been used elsewhere
Due respect. I didn’t say you did. I said ‘those people’ and they are out there. What people (again, please note the general term) need to understand is that the game is meant to appeal to more than just enthusiasts and/or aspiring train drivers. Some people just want a go so to speak. As mentioned elsewhere, a longer 100 mile and over route would kill the professors and therefore make it onto for super next gen console owners. Who is going to create a product with such a niche market then?
Which is why I said I don’t mind waiting. Old Gen support is being discontinued from next year anyways (From Microsoft and Sony)
What’s classed as old gen? I’ve got Xbox Series S and it struggles switch London Commuter. So there’s no way it would cope with London to Birmingham. So that’s one less purchase straightaway.
So here is the problem then, if Xbox Series S can’t cope with London Commuter (I rarely get a full run without a crash somewhere) then there is no way it can cope with something as intense as London Birmingham. For something like that another sim needs developing.
That’s not true at all because I own a Series S with literally all the layers and I have never gotten a single crash on BML or SEHS. Not everyone wants 50 mile routes with nothing on them. My series S runs very well in the 50-60fps and the occasional stutter is due to tiles loading in. Next Gen runs pretty well so I do not know what issues your console has. Because the busiest routes work extremely well when it comes to performance (apart from when there are bugs). And the WCMLs has way less services than BML by like 400 (including the 323 layers) from cov to bham. So then again your point makes no sense as your peformance issue is purely an anecdotal experience. It’s not a general thing…
I know this ain't the topic but I must say when I do venture onto London commuter (and it's a rare occurrence due to the Electrostars) it runs really smoothly and the same with SEHS. Definitely haven't had any crashes.
well I can assure you I’m finding it often crashes out on me, I’ll have a go later and see what the exact fault is.
The Northampton loop would be within the 113 miles. However it would be a hundred and thirty something miles of track in general (excluding the depots) which would make it over 140
Correct and set the common origin as Birmingham New Street that way TSW 3 versions of WCML South and BCC can merge with each other. Basically the TSW 3 version of TSC Danny Merge WCML South with BCC
I have all ways said in my livestreams that if they did a WCML south for TSW then they would have to have Joethefish aka the Greatest Of All Timetablers do the timetable and you know full well that he would also include the full bakerloo timetable as AI services along the Bakerloo route that runs by the WCML route. To prove my theory. We have the I think most MML HST's as ai at St Pancras as well as the forthcoming entire timetable for the class 700 out of Kings X as ai in SEHS. He is a perfectionist. Regard Hentis
So you're saying something like this West Coast main line Birmingham Cross City bakerloo as a bundle.
Yep tell me about it. The Freight service is poor AF. All Intermodal services. The freight headcodes for the following as Intermodal services Royal Mail Class 325 Willsden - Shieldsmuir Old Dalby - Old Oak Common Dungeness - Crewe (DRS Class 68 Nuclear Flask working + 1 more Nuclear Flask working) Several Aggregate workings down as Intermodal services as well. I also think that the headcodes for the Underground iservices are wrong as well. Dont get me wrong I love the WCML route but the timetaable is absolutely shocking. Hentis
