What Is The Worst Route In Your Opinion

Discussion in 'TSW General Discussion' started by justadudewholikestrains, Sep 30, 2024.

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which is better or which is worser

Poll closed Oct 22, 2024.
  1. LGV

    29 vote(s)
    26.1%
  2. Arosa

    27 vote(s)
    24.3%
  3. NYT

    8 vote(s)
    7.2%
  4. AVL

    1 vote(s)
    0.9%
  5. other routes

    23 vote(s)
    20.7%
  6. west cornwall

    23 vote(s)
    20.7%
  1. justadudewholikestrains

    justadudewholikestrains Active Member

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    IMO the arosa,lgv méditerranée and NY-trenton is the worst route due to the lazy work of dtg and rivet

    AND PLEASE ITS A OPINION AND NOT AN ARGUMENT

    AND ITS NOT A TROLL POST FOLKS
     
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  2. owenroser19

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    The scenery on LGV is quiet shocking, but the TGV was done quite well. It’s a shame it’s got such minimal use.
     
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  3. justadudewholikestrains

    justadudewholikestrains Active Member

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    i know
    like: (okay i did the TGV and stations well have we more? nope job done)
     
  4. yardem

    yardem Well-Known Member

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    In my opinion, the worst trolls are the ones with poor grammar.
    ARL, LGV and NYT are three routes. They cannot all be "the worst route".
    And without any argument against them, your post is textbook "trolling".
     
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  5. AvfcWalpole7

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    I was so excited for this route originally, but then after driving it, the route was so underwhelming and quite boring to be honest.
     
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  6. Dal22

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    WHY EXPLAIN YOURSELF
     
  7. justadudewholikestrains

    justadudewholikestrains Active Member

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    its not an argument it's opinions dude.
     
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  8. justadudewholikestrains

    justadudewholikestrains Active Member

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    what do you mean by that?
     
  9. Spikee1975

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    Troll alert!
     
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  10. Dal22

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    What makes them worse in your eyes then
     
  11. justadudewholikestrains

    justadudewholikestrains Active Member

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    eeh read the red text in the first message please
     
  12. justadudewholikestrains

    justadudewholikestrains Active Member

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    due to lazy works of them lgv isnt that good except for the TGV which is fairly okay,arosa route was spoiled by scenary, NYT was a mess when released
     
  13. Spikee1975

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    It's useless and unconstructive, as it's only a claim without justification and example. But do as you please.

    You've just signed up and try to raise your post count with completely useless posts.
     
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  14. Dal22

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    Ok that's your opinion I have no beef with you have a good day and keep playing
     
  15. justadudewholikestrains

    justadudewholikestrains Active Member

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    this post is for opinions and not some troll post
     
  16. justadudewholikestrains

    justadudewholikestrains Active Member

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    okay its your opinion but please this is not a troll post lad
     
  17. krenz.christoph

    krenz.christoph Well-Known Member

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    Explain, why you think these routes are bad ...
    I like LGV, even I really would like these highspeed routes longer, but this was the first step on french soil for DTG. Let's hope it wasn't the last.
    I really don't like Koblenz Mainz. For me it feels it was a lazy job. I am a huge fan of the BR 103. It is hands down my favorite locomotive. The version in DTG is underwhelming. Then the route does not feel finished. Fx. an old PIS is missing, since it is settled in the 90ies the 101 is missing. Besides that it is odd, that it goes from Koblenz to Mainz, and not from Koblenz to Frankfurt or from Cologne to Mainz.
     
  18. LeadCatcher

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    Just curious, why express an opinion in a new thread in a discussion forum if you don’t want to have a discussion on why they are the worse routes? Not trying to start an argument, just want to know the motivation for the OP’s desire to share his/her opinion.

    if we just want to post opinions without conversation over them, then I have one.


    I like trains
     
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  19. justadudewholikestrains

    justadudewholikestrains Active Member

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    i repeat once more

    its due to lazy work of them.
    lgv isnt that good because of the scenery and the boring straight line but one thing that is good with LGV and its the TGV which is fairly okay tbh ,arosa route was spoiled by scenery and boring mountain climb (imo) , NYT was a mess when released but was fixed after some time but it is still good enough to be ''good''
     
  20. justadudewholikestrains

    justadudewholikestrains Active Member

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    okay you have a point
     
  21. justadudewholikestrains

    justadudewholikestrains Active Member

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    should i just shut down the thread for everyone's sake?
     
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  22. LeadCatcher

    LeadCatcher Well-Known Member

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    I think the LGV route is straight because in real life it is straight.
     
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  23. justadudewholikestrains

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    ill take that as a yes plus i don't see anything that should keep this forum open so i kill this convo
     
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    I really like the first "city" part of LGV, sadly we don't have any other trains for AI layering.
     
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  25. justadudewholikestrains

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    true
     
  26. Omnicitywife

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    You like trains, but dislike driving them.
     
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  27. justadudewholikestrains

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    i didn't mean in that way . i like driving trains but some routes are a bit boring for my taste
     
  28. CK95

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    *buys high speed line*

    *complains is straight line*
     
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  29. justadudewholikestrains

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    its not really in that case lad. i really like kassel wilhelmshöhe-wurzburg hbf and its a straight high speed line. i was complaining about that there is no layers in LGV
     
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    I have no doubt in my mind that the worst route for TSW was NEC New York. It was ugly and short, and the trains included were pretty poor. The only redeeming quality was the SW1000R DLC which is still a very good train by TSW standards.

    There are other bad routes in TSW but I think each of them has at least something that made it worth playing.
     
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    LGV is nowhere near as bad as West Cornwall with its laughable scenery, trees and tree stumps everywhere.

    The route is optimised for running at very high speed where you’re not counting every blade of grass or tree is in the right place.

    In fact I find LGV more pleasant to drive than SKW with its interminable tunnels followed by a brief spell in the open on a generic viaduct crossing a generic forested area.

    Ultimately it’s all subjective and at this late stage there’s little point whinging about the state of older routes when there is a huge backlog of fixes needed on some of the new content (such as WCMLS). Probably not likely to be on the agenda for a complementary makeover either.
     
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    I seem to be the only person on here who really loves LGV. I'd rather play it than SKW or SKA. I really hope we get another TGV route sometime in the future.
     
  36. MarkCovz4761

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    West Cornwall Local imo the scenery is abysmal and the 150 is bad also and WCL just left like alot of the other routes in a bad state
     
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  37. cActUsjUiCe

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    The red font really helps to drive home their point
     
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  38. matt#4801

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    Its not even the weekend!
     
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    Quite the opposite for me...

    I feel the LGV is one of the most underrated, it's a superb little line. The only criticism I have is that the scenary can be a little baron in places in the countryside and that the terminal is quiet. But it is a TSW2 route and still holds up well. It's a shame there will be no more LGV lines. But overall it's a good route and one of the few where you get a decent 200mph run... The criticism of it being a straight line is a bit stupid... It's a high speed line and that's the reason it's like that. It has some good gradients though so isn't entirely straight.
     
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  40. Clint Steamenginewood

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    Huh, I certainly see the issues such as missing terrain next to some stations and missing locos but I've got to admit the run across the rhine is quite lovely. Scenic Riverside towns that remind me of dartmouth and a reasonable mix between a higher speed section and winding speed restrictions.

    These are all opinions ofcourse but I wouldn't have thought it would go into someone's worst route list!
     
  41. fabienlimp95

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    The first route that appears to my mind (at least from the routes im owning) is actually Maintalbahn but in the context of when it was released. DTG had at this point released some proper german routes and really got better in a lot of aspects, better foliage and general decoration. When Maintalbahn was rolling out, it seems DTG just have forgotten all of that but jumped right back to TSW2020 times. Im still at the opinion that Maintalbahn was to released way earlier but was pushed back for unknown reasons (look at the traffic and the Streets, thats MSB level on a route that released years later. MSB also has a place here i feel.
     
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  42. jack#9468

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    They seem to be evolving
     
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    Arosa is Rivet, LGV and NYT aren't. LGV also ain't the worst route, evidenced by it selling well.

    Normal people don't use bold red text in capital letters. They use normal text and capitalise only where needed.
     
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  44. aaronthomas1a

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    Oh look a new account that just join today mods lock this thread
     
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    Agree with you on MTB, that had to be a FifeCircle deal, developed earlier but delayed release.

    MSB id contest, sure it doesn’t hold up so much now, but it was one of the very early DLC’s for TSW & compared to what it was releasing along side (NTP, Peninsula Corridor) it was a solid route.

    TSW2020 in general I think was a more consistent period for route quality, the longer TSW has gone on, the wider I find the gaps in quality between routes
     
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  46. -_-LivvuAurora-_-

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    This one's a bit tricky as I always tend to find alot of good in alot of routes, even if they don't personally appeal to me.

    However, out of the routes I played, I think S-Bahn Zentralschweiz was the most disappointing of them.
    As someone who is an avid Swiss railfan, someone who has waited so long for a Swiss route that isn't in the forsaken alps to come out. It was a short amount of hype, followed by alot of "Oh..."

    So much more work could've been sunk into this route, there were so many opportunities to make this something genuinely fun. Yet that's not what we got, what we got was a fairly short route, with one train and a not so well made safety system.

    Now don't get me wrong, I don't want for Rivet to never revisit making a Swiss Mainline route again. But good lord... is it so much to ask to have a route of at least 60 Kilometers...?
    Its very much a go back and fourth over and over again type deal.

    I very much understand that development can be difficult, especially with a time limit. But this route...just had no excuse to be so little for the price they're charging even if yes, it introduced a whole new safety system.
    Else than that, I guess it's meh if you've got nothing to do for a short time.
     
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  47. Gilly

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    I PRESUME you HAVE every ROUTE and DLC on which to base your opinion?
     
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  48. Doomotron

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    I did like the LGV route, but it was entirely down to the TGV being quite decent. The scenery was pretty awful. The TS version looked much better, and the extension to Lyon made it a more compelling route to drive on. I just wish the TS TGVs were anywhere near as good as the TSW Duplex.

    West Cornwall Local is a good contender for worst route but the Turbot and Seacow wagons were useful additions. The Class 150 is also alright for AI, so I think it can be a relatively sensible purchase when significantly discounted.
     
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  49. Double Yellow

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    Starting a post saying “I dislike these routes” and without a proper explanation, is going to rub folks up the wrong way.
    Since we’re on the subject though, I can say with all certainty my least favourite route in TSW is the ECML. I wasn’t happy with the section we got and there was a missed opportunity not starting the route at Kings Cross, we could’ve had commuter services too. Again, same ole story though, just like the WCML. Shoddy job with minimum effort. That’s all thanks to DTG limited dev time they spend on a single route.
     
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  50. Spikee1975

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    I'm not sure what's more entertaining - the nature of the original post itself, or the need of some to reflexively report their favourite worst route again, into the meaningless void this thread is.

    I can't see the OP asking you for your top ten - to my surprise there isn't even a poll this time!

    In fact, I am so entertained that I gave the OP a like. Though not as funny or effective as "nicolasfredda" - some may know him - I felt quite amused.
     
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