I have a question and interest in what for a pc system you play and do you have ever used the upscaling in you're graphiccard settings? I must say about upscaling it looks so much better and by my system the game runs better with upscaling! If you have no clue what upscaling is... Its called in Nvidia DSR and in AMD settings its called VSR! If you didn't try it ever my advice.... Please try it! I have the following specs: AMD 7 3700X AMD 6750XT 32GB RAM
Processor 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-11700F @ 2.50GHz 2.50 GHz Installed RAM 16,0 GB (15,9 GB usable) copied from settings if thats what you wanted to know in the first line I don't use upscaling and rather not use it I guess
No i don't need any settings! But it was more a interest thing! But i can advise try it.... I looks so much better! Its way sharper and i noticed that the game runs more smoother.... The ingame scaling system is in my opion not so good! The VSR or DSR works way more better Its a thing that required a better card so what graphiccard do you have?
I use DSR because the game doesn’t support DLSS. Why would you not want to use less power and push your GPU less for no loss in visual quality? It’s a no brainier. Of course, it also gives you more headroom to push the graphics a bit harder, and that’s never a bad thing. FWIW I have a 3090 and TSW3 often maxes it out using my ini settings.
I have a rather old, stodgy system (i5-7400/Radeon 580), but using the onboard AMD scaling makes a HUGE difference in framerate and the ability to push graphics harder. It's hardware-based so MUCH faster and more efficient than DTG's internal, software-based screen-percentage routine.
Yeah for me it's very clear I never used TSW without VSR/DSR it brings so much more options to push you're game to a higher quality and it isn't losing FPS in a harder way then the inbuilt Scaling!
Ah ah 1660 is not the card where you have to try that indead! This card is for this game only possible witth realy low quality! Yeah that's very simple a latop doesn't have the displaysize to use this function
Just a question as I am now the owner a flashy new video card (4070Ti) in the new rig; so I am also playing around with these DSR settings; should we leave TSW3's screen % on 100 or lower it to the absolute minimum and let the video card do its thing ? I previously used to bump TSW3's screen % setting up to 200%, but I have now lowered it to 100% after enabling DSR 2.25x DL. Should I lower it even more in-game (The lowest it can go to is 50%) ?
Oh that's not needed! If you play on 4K and you're PC is capable to upscale it in game to 100% it's okay only question is it needed... I prefer a little more fps above a absolutely stunning quality and you're game isn't capable to go higher than 20 fps.... for me the best fps range is about 50 fps with a decent quality. Try what you pc have to offer. Thats can take while to have the right spot.
I'm on 4k screen res. So how should i try DSR? Lowering the game resolution and activate DSR in Nvidia settings? (which would have the same effect as ingame screen-percentage but more efficient?)
No. You activate DSR in the Nvidia CP for TSW. Once you’ve done that open the game and you will see a number of new resolutions are available. Depending on the ‘quality’ you require select one of those resolutions and that’s it. 85% scaling for 4K is the 3264x1836 resolution which is what I use with virtually zero loss in quality. This is a good guide on how to use it. Note that you can enable it in the Control Panel OR the GeForce Experience app. Personally I prefer the Control Panel. https://www.gamingpcbuilder.com/nvidia-image-scaling-tested/#foogallery-16542/i:16548
Started playing with Intel i7 9750h 1650 maxq weirdly, I’ve been enjoying the game more on my steam deck and for the last 4 months have been playing pretty much exclusively on that. Edit: I’ve never touched upsampling and need to read more about the benefits. Obviously, it would do next to nothing for the steam deck but I do have a main desktop which would benefit, potentially. Oddly, I’ve never used it to play TSW though.
JetWash: Thanks again so much for: 1st: your advice here! It runs so much better for me (DSR on, game resolution 1 below screen-res, sharpening 25%) 2nd: your lighting mod which makes everything look more like real life and less comic book. Thanks also to the thread opener for bringing this up!!! And thanks to Maik Goltz & Crew for the unrivaled masterpiece which is Niddertalbahn. With the new settings, NID, and a deactivated HUD it is pure bliss. My kind of yoga!
Intel i7-9700, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 SUPER i dont think i have any settings or anything it runs okay in most games
You have to change this in Nvidia Control settings, where you can setup you're graphic card. And than looking for DSR.or Image Scaling.
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X, G.Skill Ripjaws V (2x 8GB sticks) 16GB 3200 M/T's, Sapphire Pulse Radeon 5500 XT 8GB, 1TB Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVMe. For a budget system, most games run well mostly medium to high (Ultra in some instances where Vulkan API is available). TSW runs decently on Medium-High ......... Sometimes Minor/Massive stutters in some areas/routes are present. I've tried AMD RSR (Radeon Super Resolution Upscaling), but sadly it doesn't help TSW for me at least. (No hate to developers) TSW in my opinion needs Vulkan API for optimal performance.
Sadly VSR is not available to me due to my monitor being archaic and using VGA/DVI-D (currently using HDMI to DVI-D converter)
AMD 5600X + 6700XT for me. Never tried upscaling, not sure if FSR or RSR work on my equipment or how well it will work in TSW but now that I think of it I'll certainly investigate further. Anything to curb the stutter!
What’s reshade got to do with VSR though? It’s a different thing. It’s a bit like comparing a football and a fridge.
My goodness we're all feeling combative today.. Im not comparing it, just saying I use it. I tried the upscalling thing and couldn't see any advantage in the sense it didn't cure any of the issues that I personally find annoying like the flickering. Sharpness, not to mention the colour issues atc are dealt with in the same way through reshade. For information only people. Try not to spit out your cornflakes..
I have an I7 4770, getting on for 10 years old now. 24Gb of RAM and GPU is a GTX1650 with I think 4Gb of VRAM. All mechanical drives, no SSD. It really should be replaced but meeting resistance from SWMBO on that one. And no I have never tried upscaling, never even heard of it. Despite my ancient hardware TSW runs quite acceptably at 4K resolution other than the known hicks and stutters which are down to coding or tile loading.
Not being combative at all, it’s just the way something might come across when it’s been typed in a matter of seconds whilst doing 3 other things! I was just that you said ‘I gave it a go but prefer reshade’. That is still like comparing a football and a fridge They’re two totally different things. DSR isn’t about trying to get rid of flickering etc. DLSS does that but DSR was the first iteration of that technology. All DSR does is allow you to run the game at a lower resolution which is then up scaled back to the native screen size by the driver. It effectively buys your GPU some headroom to either get more fps (in a non-CPU limited scenario) or push your graphics a bit harder. Think of DSR as taking the in-game screen percentage driver and scaling it down. It is not the same thing as taking that slider above 100%. Hope that makes sense. DLSS2 was something altogether different which used deep learning to provide AA etc was well. I find in MSFS that it works better as an AA solution than TAA. DLSS3 is something altogether different again, but only 40series cards can take advantage of it. The obvious major benefit of DLSS3 is frame generation. The sad thing is that TSW doesn’t allow the use of any of it. There can’t be many games about now that don’t use it, it’s just our bad luck that DTG, for whatever reason, haven’t utilised the free performance it gives you. TSW doesn’t even allow you to use Nvidia game filters which indicates just where it sits in terms of gaming tech. Hopefully that explains better why DSR and reshade are not the same thing.
It does. I confess my almost total ignorance on such matters I don't actually know what DLSS stands for but I can understand the headroom concept. As regards comparisons, any comparison was unintended or accidental. No animals were harmed in the creating of the post and any resemblance to any other comparison or post is unintended or accidental. Facetious I know but I'm feeling mischievous this morning
If you’re looking to help the flickering etc I’d suggest adding the reshade TAA shader on top of the in-game TAA. Afraid I can’t remember which shader package it’s part of though. It definitely improves things a fair bit.
Thanks Jetwash. I actually did that for a while and it's great while static, but once you start moving it blurs out quite a bit. I haven't tried dialling it in yet but I might. In the interim I've found about 160% on the screen setting in game combined with some other reshade jiggery pokery seems to have worked. I can't go near anywhere really heavy on FPS but for east coastway etc it's OK. I'll stop hogging the thread now!!
The point is if you wish to use it its fine but my advise to use VSR or DSR is that it will improve the fps.... Reshade is nothing more than a filter and does nothing to improve the game in terms of FPS...... For other users its better if you have a more decent graphiccard.... With a 1060RTX or AMD equal card don't expect here any improvement. I believe the scaling in game is defect or realy bad optimized.... But if i watched the livestreams with a scaling of 100% you never noticed this kind of problems.... But yeah if you have always create things for TSC the quality is not the favorite part to look saidly enough...... No hate do DTG but more a point of view or ignoring the problem that quality matters
