Let's see which freight route would yield the highest popularity in sales (not your own personal wishlist) and I have suggested the below based on the fact they operate at high speed mostly and with Donner Pass it is very well known. The IC&E is not Class 1 and is operated by Canadian National. It would seem that this might offer the best path for DTG to get access to the railroad. From Chicago to Byron with half passenger (using Metra's). Something that is not near the LA Basin and NE Corridor. Prefer ideas for more high speed freight running than mountain passes. As that is not only selling in TSW but US freight lacks that. But the main lines like in Cajon Pass east section is actually high speed. Are there any in Texas or other states that you can suggest? I also think Donner Pass has Amtrak service the San Francisco area daily. While freight lovers love slow routes like Clinchfield, it won't sell well. Cane Creek didn't well I think? Although it is beautiful. I may get it one day. I am glad Cajon Pass was in TSW3 it is a great route.
Would make a nice route .Canadian pacific runs the former IC&E now so DTG would need a CPKC license and Metra too CN operates the former Chicago Central lines that run across IL IA in similar fashion.
You missed out Kicking Horse Pass in Canada. You are also still missing the point that heavy North American freight is on hiatus.
How should we know what will sell - which is the topic - not want we like to have? And what will you do with the data gathered from the poll? I'm curious.
If it was properly done, and to its length to how G-Trax made it for TSC... Sacramento Northern: San Francisco to Suisun Bay. Reasons? -Historical US Interurban Route -Passenger and Freight -Industries to Serve along the line -Unique and interesting stock in the Holman Interurban's and GE 650 Steeple cab locomotive.
So this thread will become a personal wishlist again I suppose... just name them all, for unknown purpose. What about checking the suggestions forum, and evaluating based on the likes each US suggestion has received - giving us an answer? The data is already available, just needs to be collated. Just an idea.
I’ve never heard of Steven’s Pass. Is that anywhere near Stevens Pass? That has an interesting tunnel on it, an interesting tunnel that might be boring to drive through in a sim.
I think if we are lucky we may get some remasters of a few older US freight routes before we get any new US freight routes.,And if people dont soupport them then US freight be dead ..I also would show soupprt and buy all the US freight content that would show people want it ..if people not buying whats there now they are not going to do new freight routes..also going fwd DTG needs to do routes where there is both passenger and freight so both can be layered in. At the least add some freight loco s and car paks to existing routes or short extensions like branch line more industrys like grain loading ,Aggregates ,ore , loading working intermodal facilities, tank car unloading Aka oakville sub..port a few more TSC US freight routes to TSW the Clinchfield was a TSC port over redone to fit on TSW ..
trlz#8165 You cannot port over a route to TSW4. Though you can port over a lot of assets (meshes and textures), which they have done for many routes as they have the source files. Many german billboards in TSW have already appeared in Kuju Rail Simulator in 2007. The route itself needs to be built from scratch.
Another thing I Am Console only ...You PC players have MANY train sims to choose from .US console only players TSW the only choice ..And Sim Rail not comming to Consoles anytime soon bet it wont they prob not be able to do it .Maybe DTG should do more console exclusive US content since TSW is all we got seems no one wants to bring a great gen9 train sim to console with US freight .no one even wants to do any for TSW..i wish someone would step up BIG time 3rd party wise and do US freight content do big do it right no excuses
First time in an SD40 thread eh? This is more than likely little more than yet another post for the OP to bang on about Doner Pass coming to TSW.
Which again if he’s on PC, just get the TSC version which is quite nice or Run 8 not so aesthetically pleasing but you can create your own gameplay, grab a populated session off The Depot, or spend hours figuring out how to serve the local industry. In between giving Otto a little nudge when he gets confused at Norden!
I’d deffo buy any new US freight routes, especially retro ones. The recent release of Feather River Canyon in TSC was well received and the rolling stock delightful. It would be nice to get a CP route in the Rockies before the merger with KS, that would be spectacular with the new mountains. Otherwise any of the well known passes like Donner, Marias, Steven’s, Feather River etc. Operator wise we know DTG already have the licenses for most of these in TSC.
Good luck with the Lake Shore Ltd. It's only just a little over 1,000 miles. And, as for " high speed " the journey time is only 19-20 hours. Will the Le Mans 24 hour race be part of it? Or maybe a horse and buggy trackside? Amtrak to Louisiana Main Line? Where does that one start from, by the way? Or end, for that matter. I noticed you didn't try for the " Polar Express ", or the Trans Siberian. Both quite doable using TSW's current route building guidelines. You've reached a new level of fantasy with this post.
Pretty sure one of the main arguments right now with TSW, DTG and Freight is to get away fromm A-B mountain route climbs.....
Mountain pass routes still have yards along the route and spurs. For me the scenery is the number one priority with TSW4, it’s the only thing it’s able to do better than TSC, especially with the new mountain textures.
Do you have sales figures for US freight routes? Only it’s odd they aren’t done more for TSW4 because every other train sim has a lot of US freight content (TSC, Trainz, Railroader etc) and there is even a whole game just dedicated to it. In addition Simrail are doing US freight dlc soon. There is obviously a big market for US freight so I don’t really understand why TSW4 has to be the odd one out?
Maybe because they just can’t get the physics right. Maybe because operating a complex US freight loco with the control combinations available to a console joypad is very challenging, compared to KBM on the PC.
No, but according to Matt, Clinchfield did so poorly it pretty much killed any chance of the route getting loco DLC or any new vintage US routes.
While I understand wanting something different from mountain runs, what else is there? Flat ground. At least the mountains give us a challenge with juggling the brakes to keep a 2 million pound train under control. How long would a 60 mph flat freight route keep people engaged?
I'm mostly ignorant about TSC, so I'll have to defer there. But it does seem that every train sim out there has different focuses and omissions, including TSC vs. TSW, so is it really accurate for people to say that something as presented in one sim would work equally well (or badly) in another?
I still find it strange that happened, I don’t remember anything particularly what the people could have been annoyed about it, I mean I purchased it at launch aswell, as with most stuff back then.
In Donner Pass there are the GP-9s. Would add to the 60s and 70s locomotive stock that Clinchfield started. You never know, Clinchfield may have a glorious resurgence in the years to come, especially if it is upgraded. Considering Donner Pass doesn't require access to the railroad (you don't need it for LIDAR right as LIDAR is pretty much stored on the web?) and buildings can be seen from public we could probably do it ourselves.
The physics and playability in TSW is why I cannot go back to TSC. I tried with GEML I almost puked. I just can't do it. TSW is so good.
You still need access to the locomotives and rolling stock, most which cant be recorded at mainline speed (Something Matt has mention multiple times when getting references in the past)
While that's true, DTG already have surveys in hand of the major types in service (SD70, AC4400, ES44)
Original post quoted Southern Pacific and the GP9's, and the only loco DTG has references really for are the AC4400CW and SD40, but both needs modifications to be in SP spec.
I'm critical of TSW but would never state such a thing. I'm sorry it makes you feel bad - you're missing out on so many things then... I don't know what's so bad... looks fine to me, and for example the AP 158 is a joy to drive (and has configurable Destination Displays). Note this is vanilla TSC.
Couldn't agree more. I'm currently having a blast with the Class 390 on WCML South and looking forward to grabbing the Havre to Shelby route in the Spring sale, which can apparently be merged with Marias Pass giving a massive driveable distance.
Yes, and there's also a 1950s backdating pack available for Marias Pass and HiLine by GreatNortherner.
I’m surprised you included Donner Pass on this list since you keep telling us it is for sure, definitely coming to TSW.
