Train Sim World 3 Why Is "russian" Banned?

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  1. imnotgreek#2530

    imnotgreek#2530 Member

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    I should have posted this a while ago, but I didn't know how the forum worked. Anyway, there is no feature to report false takedowns for me, or if this is legit, no reason. I know there is a war happening, but I don't see how banning the use of the use of the country Russia does ANYTHING at all. I don't support invasions of course, neither the Russian government, but why can't I upload this? Also the tag for Russia is still there, maybe get rid of the tag then.
     

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    The_Drunken_Engineer Well-Known Member

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    While I wouldn't be surprised if the mere mention of Russia invokes seething from the same people who would make a million excuses for invading Afghanistan (when they do it), I think the real problem is the use of the word 'class'. The word filter is a real clASS work and will flag anything imaginable Try it without the word and it should work. This has tripped up many contributors trying to post their creations.
     
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    I suspect someone reported you but I don’t see any problem with that locomotive it’s not like you’ve portrayed Putin on one side of the loc
     
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  4. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Dtg got rid of the clASS filter a while ago along with other names and stuff. For example, you can put penistown if you really wanted. It can be due to soo many uploads at once that your livery was waiting to be approved, causing it to be removed. Another could be someone reported you or it's actually offensive to use Russian. Try uploading with a different name and see what happens
     
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    dhekelian Well-Known Member

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    Knowing DTG they will be silently banning the word 'Russian' until they get enough complaints and then they will back track. I wonder if DTG actually think banning this sort of thing makes any difference at all? imo the only thing it will guarantee is retaliation in the long run.
     
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  6. imnotgreek#2530

    imnotgreek#2530 Member

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    DTG doesn't know squat about customer satisfaction
     
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  7. SHINO BAZ

    SHINO BAZ Well-Known Member

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    You sure about that i have tried useing the word CLASS in livery editor for some of my BR trains and it said you can't have that word as part of your discription..
     
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  8. DTG JD

    DTG JD Director of Community and Marketing Staff Member

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    Hey - let me just confirm a couple of bits on here.

    At the moment, due to the ongoing situation in Ukraine, we are removing mentions of Russia and Russian content in Creators Club. This might change if the global situation changes. I wasn't aware that the tag for Russia existed, I've asked alongside this for it to be removed.

    (The 'Class'/'Penistone'/'Scunthorpe' issue is only a problem for in-game content (i.e. naming liveries and scenarios in-game), but shouldn't be flagged for anything uploaded to Creators Club as we use a different system.)
     
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    Apparently 'Liverpool' is banned too! Can't upload onto the Hub with the name 'Liverpool' in the description. Not sure what the problem with Liverpool is, unless its because of the 'Blues' or the other 'Reds'?
     
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    I think the problem is LiverPOOl that’s why it’s banned it might be the reason but once again it’s ridiculous, the filter has to be revised in-depth
     
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    That seems very silly. Are we just going to ban mentioning a country everytime it does something that does not please everyone?
     
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    Maybe this is the reason we don't have Chinese content.....


    What's Australia's excuse ;)
     
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    You just can't avoid some things that are as drastic as the current situation in Ukraine. Game Developer Studios should also set a sign and show who and what they stand for, which DTG has been doing for a year now. Perhaps prohibiting the words Russia or Russian is not the fine English way, but also a kind of sanction. Unfortunately, the people in a country are always the ones who suffer for the misfortunes of their political leaders.

    Maybe another example based on a future TSW DLC. I mean the BR232 from TSG. It was built in very large numbers in Luhansk, which is a larger city in Ukraine. Namely in eastern Ukraine or the Donbass region. The area is now russian occupied and fiercely fought over. Nevertheless it does not matter to ban this loco as it is a fan favorite especially in East Germany.
     
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    I've seen or in this case heard the word CLASS used by matt,adam,sam etc on various streams yet it banned from being used in livery editor or in scenario planner,so why is it only offensive when typed and not when mentioned in streams?
     
  15. Cl ass the program that checks for offensive words don't see it as class.
     
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    Welcome to the land of woke and arrogance. Please JD tell me how the war in Ukraine is going to be affected by the banning of the word 'Russia'? The arrogance of it. In recent history when you start policing language it is a slippery slope. Or is this all about DTG's 'feelings'?
     
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    Why is everything that has anything to do with Russia being punished for one mans illegal invasion of his neighbor.There are Russian citizens who protest Putin war at personal risk of imprisonment or even death,So how does banning one person Russian train livery have any effect on Putin,all it does is punish those who have no connection to this illegal war.

    Note I understand wanting to punish the Russian goverment but banning something like a simply livery seems like overkill this is as ridiculous as banning the word class.
     
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  18. This is just how ridiculous people are becoming.
     
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    Wow... so this was indeed intentional? Well I don't like getting involved in politics when playing games, so I am out as a customer.
     
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    I just realized after seeing this answer again there literally a German electric locomotive with the word "RAILPOOL" in huge letters on both sides in game yet "liverPOOL " being used is some how rejected.Wow the ridiculous train keeps rolling on.
     
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    I would think it would not be a good idea to portray Russian content due to the conflict that is happening. Could be seen as insensitive, supportive of the Russian govt, etc especially when people are suffering and dying. It might not sound that way, but it is what it is. It is not just dtg that have no intention to release anything Russian related. SCS, who had a Russia map for ets2 held off on the release indefinitely cuz of the conflict. Atomic heart received a lot of criticism cuz of its Russian ties in game and the devs themselves.
     
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    And this is because Russian content creators started the war or in fact bombing Ukraine no? Please tell me how banning Russian content in any way affects Putin's invasion? Will he be thinking ' DTG have banned the word Russia so I will pull out my troops'? Many people in Russia are against this conflict banning a word will not make any difference at all. If DTG are serious about their concern for Ukraine then they should stop their pointless virtue signalling and perhaps make a financial donation to Ukraine's cause.
     
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  23. SHINO BAZ

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    Don't forget DTG added there "With Love and Support for Ukraine" (or something to this effect) sunflowers costume livery about a year ago.(Which is perfectly fine) and it been stated many times that other countries don't blame the average russian citizen.There are even russian troops who don't believe in this war and don't want to be there.They blame Putin soley for this,so all you do is punish the whole Russian County for one mans illegal war.

    One more thing...
    Note I'll admit that these relationship has been a bit rocky now and then but there is at least one group that has managed to stay united and support each other up until now.
    They are as follows.
    NASA
    ESA
    JAXA
    ROSCOSMOS
    and
    Other countries that support the ISS.

    Life and Death in space operations are just one mistake or object strike away.
    In train terms Life and Death in train operations are just one mistake or object strike away.
    In war terms Life and Death in war operations are just one mistake or object strike away.
    Strange how similar 3 different profession can be while still having similar dangers.

    And with all this serious above this topic of a simple livery addition gets this kind of attention.
    Kinda makes it trivial at this point.
     
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  24. DTG JD

    DTG JD Director of Community and Marketing Staff Member

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    Think it's time this thread was locked. I've confirmed our stance at the moment above - you may agree, or may disagree, but the discussion topic has moved away from its intention, which was to determine why a livery may have been removed.
     
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