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Why Not French Routes ?

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Kentora, Feb 25, 2018.

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  1. Paris-Nord to Calais-Maritime in the 50' : Pacifics to London

    3 vote(s)
    15.8%
  2. Paris-Lyon to Lyon-Perache in 1983 : introducing the TGV

    12 vote(s)
    63.2%
  3. Toulouse-Matabiaux - Latour-de-Carol-Entveigh in the 30'-70' : a transpyrennean line

    1 vote(s)
    5.3%
  4. Marseilles-Saint-Charles - Vingtimeglia in the 60's: The French Rivera

    6 vote(s)
    31.6%
  5. Petite Ceinture de Paris in the 20's : A ring 100% inside Paris

    1 vote(s)
    5.3%
  6. Paris-Est to Basel in the 70's : the blue diesel line

    4 vote(s)
    21.1%
  7. other : make your suggestion

    1 vote(s)
    5.3%
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  1. Kentora

    Kentora Member

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    Why not a french route ?
    I personally have a preference for the 30-60's period, with steam, electric and diesel engine mixing old company material and new one from the SNCF ( Société Nationale des Chemins de fer Français) which was created in 1938.

    The 7 main old merged and nationalized companies
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    The AL includes the Luxembourg duchy network
    The metric, economic, urban, overseas or industrial are not included but widen number of companies and lines

    I can ask you a lot of routes, so I will suggest you only 3 yet - with some photos bellow, and develop them in dedicated topics if you are interested :

    - Paris-Nord to Calais-Maritime and to London via Dover by ferry in the 50's-60's :
    The "Train Bleu" Going through Boulogne-Tintelleries station : Calais at 40Km
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    La Fleche d'Or (Golden Arrow) in 1960 leaving Paris-Nord Station
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    La fleche d'argent (the Silver Arrow) at Touquet Paris Plage airport - in link with Lydd airport in England
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    At Calais going down from the ferry boat from Dover
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    - Paris-Gare-de-Lyon to Lyon in 1983 after complete openning the first high speed Line :
    TGV in 1981 in Paris-Lyon station
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    a TGV on the high speed line crossing a 141R with the orient express perserved cars
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    the TEE Cisalpino to Milano (Italy) on the classic "imperial" line between Paris and Dijon
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    At Lyon-Perrache station
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    - Toulouse-Matabiaux - Latour-De-Carol-Enveitg (border and exchange station to Barcelona in Spain) from 30 to 70's though the Pyrennée mountains:

    3 BB4100 in the puymoreens ramp with an express train to Paris Austerlitz via Toulouse in the 60-70's
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    a Z7100 quitting Foix longing the Ariège river to Ax-les-Therme
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    Saillens hemicoid tunnel
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    Latour-de-Carol-Enveitg station with a BB8500 SNCF on the left and serie 281, serie 436 RENFE on the right in the end of teh 70's- the 2 countries does'n have the same gauge so they have specific track each
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    I could have put other routes like the North Eastern freigh corridor, the blue diesel prototypes route line 4 Paris-Est - Chalindrey - Belfort - Basel (CH)...
    So if you are interested that I treat one of them above or other routes from France and leser from Belgium, put them below.
     
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  2. NorthRail1

    NorthRail1 Well-Known Member

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    Some great ideas, DTG should definitely make some French content for TSW.
     
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  3. NEC_Male_TC

    NEC_Male_TC Active Member

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    For a French route, I hope their next one is Nice to Marseille. That's a beautiful French route since it goes along the French Riviera in certain places of it.
     
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  4. QO1922

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    A French route that I would like to see would be Cannes to Ventimiglia (Italy).
     
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  5. Kentora

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    To make you discover a bit more about old french railway (and other than french)with english description
    Find the link of the picture collection from the british Mike Morant link

    I will post later some other view
     
  6. Kentora

    Kentora Member

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    You asked for it, so you have some pictures of:

    - Marseilles-Saint-Charles to Ventimiglia (Italy) : The Frech Rivera line in early 60's (before electrification and modernization):

    241 P taking the "Mistral" coming from Paris-Lyon at Marseilles-Saint-Charles station to Nice in 1956

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    TEE "Ligure" Milano - Avignon at Roquebrune in the early 60's going to Avignon

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    a the same place with diesel locomotive BB 66000 in Roquebrune Cap-Martin leading to Menton
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    060 DB (future BB65000) on test at Ventemiglia in 1958
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    2 060DB on the La Rague viaduct at Théoule-sur-Mer

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    At Anthéor Viaduct 1964 with anotehr 141R

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    I will put some picture of other interesting lines later on.

     
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  7. PlatChap

    PlatChap Well-Known Member

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    Great suggestions. It all looks beautiful! I would love to see some French routes added at some point.
     
  8. DeBrief

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    Excellent suggestions! On what may be the opposite end of the spectrum, I wouldn't mind see the Paris Metro, or at least a portion of it.
     
  9. Kentora

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    So I added some picture on the first tread and put a map of the old french companies in it.

    From DeBrief's suggestion I will not put some metropolitan picture but his predecesor and less kown nearly wipped out :
    - La Petite Ceinture of Paris line : a ring 100% inside Paris in the 30's :

    The line in dark

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    a circular train at Ménilmontant station

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    On the Auteuil viaduct with the Eiffel Tower on the background - the bridge was destructed and replaced by the Galianni bridge

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    At Belleville-Vilette passenger and goods station

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  10. DeBrief

    DeBrief New Member

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    Incredible! Thanks for sharing these.
     
  11. Kentora

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    - Paris-Est to Basel (CH) at the time of the blue diesel (70's) :
    The line shematics :
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    CC70002 prototype engine with an express train
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    140C at Troyes comming from Provins in 1969 - this engine was one of the last steam in commercial service until 1975
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    Culmont-Chalindrey station after the 1964 electrification
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    At Culmont-Chalindrey depot with A1A- A1A 68000/68500
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    CC70001 prototype in the same depot
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    From left to right : a brand new CC72000, BB69001and a A1A A1A 68500 at Chalindrey

    TEE Arbalete (Paris - Basel) near Chaumont :
    [​IMG]

    So I will start a poll to see which line from the prensented one you are interested to be develloped.
    Note I will concentrate on older periods than the actual one.

    Here you can have some nice aerial view from the past : link

    Cheers
     
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  12. NorthRail1

    NorthRail1 Well-Known Member

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    So difficult to choose, would love to see many of these routes, in the end I chose the northern steam route and the TGV but would also like to see the SNCF blue diesels.
     

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