The last update on the roadmap was that they would have more details on timetable mode later. I'm hoping to see more for the June roadmap
If the Cab-car + 101 doesn’t layer onto routes that already use the existing 101, I hope the expert 101 can be used by itself as a substitute for the old version
It couldn't sub in because of the cab car. A loco + cab car is unable to sub into the existing trainset which only has 1 driving end.
So the cab car is permanently attached to the set? But the 101 doesn’t always run with the cab car, so could its use not just be service or route specific?
I remember seeing some 101 services on SRM with a loco on both ends. It would not be unreasonable to suspect that a cab car could sub in here, especially considering that the expert 101 was probably in development along with SRM. It is much less likely, but not impossible, that a cab car could be present in the new SKA timetable (perhaps why it is not yet released) or a new HBK timetable, if a new timetable appears with the 218. Will we the see the cab car at the end of formations that already exist in HRR or DRA? That I rather doubt. It's also worth wondering if the cab car, and therefore 101 services, will be more heavily utilized on new routes going forward. One would hope so.
I think it could be techically possible that the Expert 101 subs into the 101 sandwich services. I think we have them on the original HBK timetable, probably on HRR and maybe somewhere else. But new layers? Doubt. It will have a layer for the route it comes for (i guess it's Salzburg-Rosenheim) and for all future routes. I think it's highly likely that Joe's SKA timetable also features the cab car, though hardly any drivable services but rather AI only. As Hamburg-Lübeck (probably) will have a new tt to facilitate the 218, I suspect it will have AI and drivable layers as well.
Pilot coach or steuerwagen (pilot) could be run on BDR,BRO,HMA,Rosenheim Salzburg, HRR,RHO,RSN,SKA (AI only),Hamburg lubeck
Even if that's right, i wouldn't care at all about that. It's still the "same" cab car. It's not like it's completely out of place.
So just like Linke Rheinstrecke another route where the BR 101 and IC cab car could have been used, but the era the route is set to be in is the trouble maker to eliminate it off any plans to incorporate it. Bad, bad, bad. I wish that if DTG ever would release a old-era (classic) route again, they'd provide a much more modern timetable with it, so that the small amount of locos that first or third parties release for the game then also can be used enough in Train Sim World. *facepalm* I know it's unlikely, but at least someone needs to open their mouth about that.
Look, I completely understand preferring one time period over another, but you seem to dislike the very idea of setting a route in even a vague time frame? Also we've talked about this several times at this point: the 101 is actually approporiate on Linke Rheinstrecke and could (should, even!) have been used. As far as I understand it, it doesn't show up because they only figured out how to make the door controls on the coaches compatible with the 101 and other modern locos in TSW4. Either way, this whole debate doesn't even matter because... A) That's not a Bimdzf. A Bimdzf has windows that open, no air conditioning, a different interiour, and different doors. These are the former InterRegio cab cars. TSG are making a Bpmbdzf 297. B) Even if it was a Bimdzf, it would be perfectly appropriate for Bremen-Oldenburg, because both types of cab cars were built in the 1990s, more than 10 years before BRO is set.
I have nothing against setting a rough time frame, I'm also not the one who necessarily prefer a modern timetable over an older one, but I think this complete thing with giving a route an exact year number attached and then the arguing about whether or not a certain loco or livery fits to the year number the route is accompanied very controversial for the game Train Sim World is to be honest. Lots of broken features, limited amount of routes and rolling stock available and then the price tag everything has for what you get for it. Bringing in an aspect in the main focus which in other games would have not more than a side role is more than strange in this situation. I would go completely with the meaning to say "Okay we want this route to be in a 80s or 90s setting" so we vaguely say its in 80s or 90s and therefore we could use all rolling stock and liveries of this timeframe seems absolutely logic to me. Although I leave everyone with their own opinion, I completely fail to understand why it should be a legit reason to exclude certain locos from routes just because maybe to say that's 1992, not 1994. Especially for a game which as said before has so limited rolling stock and routes available, at least in comparison to house own's Train Simulator Classic. The difference might be very important for many in this community, but for me this whole debate seems way too exaggerated. I said it all in the other threads too, when you create route basically there is nothing like a year number attached when you view on the map and its assets in a objective way. Most assets, buildings, houses, cars, clothes of passengers is so less detailed that you wouldn't notice much difference and couldn't see whether it either is a route set in the 2010s or the 1980s. Looking at the routes and their infrastrusture itself, there usually is not much which change between years. Sometimes changes to the tracks and station happen but either it's hard to replicate the characteritic of the assets to be in a certain time frame or you don't even have the reference to create it. For my route for example, the only thing which really changed in more than 40 years is that a few branch lines got suspended and moreover the biggest change in the last 20 years is the implentation of the digital PIS boards on every station (even minor ones). This year number attached with the route is moreover a mind game and imagination of the consumer, and this imagination is mainly done by the timetable itself, not the actual route. Giving the fact that new routes are still not the most frequent thing and some got sold for immense prices, there should be way to allow any rolling stock (might it be newer or older) to be used in the timetable of the route without mods. I already explained this feature to Matt where you can substitute any formation just in place with another one and make the service be playable with any loco the user itself likes. I really hope that this would be implemented with TSW5. The only problem is AI traffic. But even then, the game in theory could have an option to tweak AI services to consist of any different formations the user want to set it up with. It's like a dynamic form of timetables. Hard to create, yet not impossible. But coming back to the topic, I simply would wish there would be a way where all locos which ever were used one the route kind of optionally layer into the timetable and users could decide for themselves whether they want them or not, but not let others decide for yourself and limit my freedom with their demands and wishes for a perfect XY year route.
