Woodhead Class 08, How Does The Trainbrake Work ...?

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  1. simpilot1267

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    Hello,
    I need help with the Woodhead Class 08.
    My problem: I don't understand how the trainbrake is working.

    Of course I did read the manual; but that manual is absolutely pointless !
    And I understood that there are different brake modes ...
    - I understood the function of the 'air release valve' .

    But for what is the 'exhauster speed-up valve'; doesn't work for me ...???

    And I found out that the trainbrake just starts to work, when I couple to wagons.
    -> and I switch to 'vacuum brakes without D.A. valves' ...
    ---> the other two 'vacuum brake modes' don't work for me ...???


    But when I use the trainbrake, I cannot release the trainbrake.
    The only way to release the trainbrake was to switch the brake mode again ?!?
    What a nonsense !

    Is there a 'hidden' compressor switch ?

    I hope that I am just too stupid to understand the correct way to handle the trainbrake; otherwise again I bought a broken payware product for TS classic ...

    Could you give a helping hand on the Class 08 trainbrake ?

    Thanks !
     
  2. torfmeister

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    Press PgUp and PgDn to select braking mode.

    The train brake is off by default, as it is normally not used/connected when shunting.
     
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  3. simpilot1267

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    Well, torfmeister, I know how to select the brake modes; but the train brake doesn't work !

    Did you read my description ?
    Why I cannot release the train brake with the lever ?

    That is one of the questions...

    Switching brake modes to release the train brake; that is nonsense !!!
     
  4. torfmeister

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    Don't yell ;)

    You have to switch the Vacuum Exhauster on by pressing Control+O. So the vacuum to release the brakes can be created.

    This is a little ProRange loco :D
     
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  5. simpilot1267

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    Thank you very much, 'torfmeister'...

    - that will do the little trick!

    By the way: "From where do you know the shortcut 'CTRL+O'?"
    Is this a common knowledge for TS classic user ?

    I did suppose a hidden vacuum exhauster or compressor; which I couldn't start... but how could I find out about the shortcut ?!
    I did read the manual up and down; couldn't find that shortcut.

    And the shortcuts for additional controls for steam trains:

    J - Small ejector on/off.
    C - Cylinder valves on/off.
    F, Shift+F - Open/close the locomotive fire box.
    R, Shift+R - Increase/reduce the rate the fireman shovels coal.
    I - Turn on/off the live steam injector.
    K, Shift+K - Increase/reduce the flow of steam to the live injector.
    O - Turn on/off exhaust injector.
    L, Shift+L - Increase/reduce the flow of steam to the exhaust injector.
    N, Shift+N - Increase/reduce blower.
    M, Shift+M - Increase/reduce damper.

    So, how did you find out about the vacuum exhauster ( CTRL+O ) ???
    I am really interested ...

    Well, now , the little lady is working perfectly fine ( driving physics and all brake modes! ).
    It is very interesting to drive the Woodhead Class 08; and I would call the lady a 'ProRange' loco ... :D

    But the manual for that loco; I just call 'crap'!!! :mad:
     
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    The manual for the Class 76s that came with the route is also crap and the locos are over scripted but no info in the manual.
     
  7. torfmeister

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    That's right, DTG's manuals are overly simplified, they don't put any effort in them. Most locos are not developed inhouse, but the manuals are - so I presume it's a lack of communication at DTG.

    What I do is to always check the "InputMapper" files to see what controls are active for a specific loco that's not documented as in this case.

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  8. simpilot1267

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    Wow...?!?
    Yup(!); I am too old and 'oldfashioned' for that "chaos"... :o

    But your idea with the "InputMapper" is excellent !
    - and you really did help me...

    Thank you very much !

    I did drive the Woodhead Class 08 for two hours on my little private route; absolute interesting little lady...
    - I like the 'ProRange' realism (works perfectly fine!); now the normal Class 08 is uninteresting!

    And I don't say that the Woodhead locos are over scripted; this 'ProRange' realism should be standard.

    But a manual is important...
    - when I did learn how to drive steam locomotives in TS 2022, I really did appreciate the 60pages manual of JustTrains 'advanced' 7MT Britannia and bossmann manuals; without no chance.... ?!
    And again; when you have learned to handle the 'advanced' locomotives in TS classic, basic locomotives lose their fascination...

    I hope we will see many more hours of entertainment in TS classic...

    Bye :D
     
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  9. torfmeister

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    Fully agreed! Bye :)
     
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    Here a part out of the cl08 manual.

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    Screenshot_20220820-080449_Drive.jpg Screenshot_20220820-080501_Drive.jpg Screenshot_20220820-080526_Drive.jpg

    You will find the full manual in the link (fist post), it covers full procedures and instructions, brake tests and knowledge about systems.
     
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