Dear DTG, TSG and dear all. The Avmz 207 used for the Linke Rheinstrecke and Mittenwaldbahn is good looking, undoubtedly, but there's a flaw with the model overall. The connector, or better "Gummiwulstübergang, was a different one These coaches were modified in the late 1980s to be used for the HSL Wurzburg to Hannover. In order to have no issues when two trains meet in the tunnels (sound boom) they received new windows, doors and the pressure safe Übergang, as the standard version wasn't suitable. This coaches were rarely used for the Linke Rheinstrecke in 1997 as their numbers were limited and they mostly ran the HSL Hannover to Wurzburg. In 1987 or 1984 they didn't even exist, yet, in this appearance. Here's how they looked like: https://www.reisezugwagen.eu/?p=9956 Here on the real coach: https://www.bahnbilder.de/bilder/vo...en-alten-muenchen-nuernberg-express-aus-.webp The combination of old connector and new rear lights and doors, as depicted in the virtual version as of now, never existed. Also, with the modifications the coaches were reassigned to Avmz 107: https://www.die-zugfolgestelle.de/cgi-bin/bild.cgi?bild=2881061 This only lasted about 15 years until they were modified once more and lost that odd Gummiwulstübergang, changing the designation once more to Avmz 108.1 - with the ICMod modifications they were finally assigned as Avmmz 106.1. In conclusion the coach is unfortunately not correct, no matter what viewpoint is used. It's a visual model that in this manner never existed. The interior used is the version past 2003, so it didn't exist this way in 1997, and especially not in 1987 or 1984. This is how the interior looked like in the 1980s: Avmz 111 and Avmz 207: https://www.drehscheibe-online.de/foren/file.php?031,file=510492 Here are a few more Intercity coaches and their interior from PR material dating back to the 1980s: Apmz 121 and Apmz 122: https://www.drehscheibe-online.de/foren/file.php?031,file=510494 Bm 235 https://www.drehscheibe-online.de/foren/file.php?031,file=510502 Armh 217 https://www.drehscheibe-online.de/foren/file.php?031,file=510525 WRmz 135 https://www.drehscheibe-online.de/foren/file.php?031,file=510527 WRbumz 139 https://www.drehscheibe-online.de/foren/file.php?031,file=510529 Source: https://www.drehscheibe-online.de/foren/read.php?031,10518725,page=all The Bqmz 291 in 1997 still had the original interior, not as shown in Linke Rheinstrecke the post 2003 interior. This photo was taken in 2000 and displas how these coaches looked like, even though they had the Produktfarben outside, which was by the way more of a cosmetic nature. https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Inneneinrichtung_Bpmz_291.jpg#mw-jump-to-license Or here from the 1980s https://www.drehscheibe-online.de/foren/file.php?031,file=510498 Basically the Bqmz 291 would be the version from Mittenwaldbahn retaining its interior and painted with the red tones Produktfarben from 1987. Maybe this can be used for a Intercity set, including the notorious Avmz 207 and the 1997 Bqmz 291 interior. Or the latter can be done as a fix and added as an update. Most screenshots neither show the visual outer parts clearly, nor do they display the interior. As such the materials promoting the products won't really need an update or change. But what it will do is add realism to the product and authencity. I have problems to understand why no real research was done, except for the outside appearance or if why it wasnt looked deeper into. This materials were found within a minute Google search and are available via DB Museum Archives or eBay. Im wondering, because the Silberlinge, the Umbauwagen, the freight cars were so authentic, but this one coach isnt and seemingly theres no real intentions to have it done as can be seen in the respective feedback topics. I, and most likely other Bundesbahn fans, might even pay for a set like this. This is not a mean critic, offense or demand, but you guys showed that you can research properly and do authentic models, if there's a real will for it. Also, this seems to be the only coach in the TSW universe with this flaws. You can do it and I know that, which is why I constantly support you - and most others as well. Finally, everything else is magnificent and I truly respect and appreciate the efforts, hence why I purchased them outside the sales for a normal price. Please DTG and TSG, do have a look into this to make the final piece in this jigsaw perfect. Kind regards
Not everything is possible with limited time and budget to produce a route and rolling stock for it. For LFR the focus was on the 103, 110 and n-wagen. Other wagons were only retextured to fit the time frame. Same for Mittenwaldbahn with the 1020 being the focus with the new silberlinge and Rmms freight wagons. TSG was so kind to remake the 111 to fit in the timeframe too, but all within a certain time and multiple projects being done they probably only modified the existing IC stock without that much focus on the smallest details. Such a detail is something most players wont even notice. For TSG there is an extremely small chance this will be changed, but for DTG you dont need to ask. A 2 year old route wont get any major rolling stock remake. You probably have to wait until TSG makes a backdated IC stile route.
As said it's not a demand, it's a hint that a coach used in two add ons and declared as a last minute add in, is plain and simply wrong. It never existed in this appearance, with this number and interior. What I also wanted to show, Vinination , is that the research was very easy and quick and had it been done the coaches were perfect as the remainder. If you accept this openly visible error, fine, I dont and hope that TSG and/or DTG will look into it. Kind regards.
Reworking these gangways is highly unlikely because it is a huge job to do because of how they work (skinned mesh). It's easy to point someone to what was done wrong. But there is always the other side of the perspective. We, at TSG, don't know everything but have to work with what we know an can access. If you know it, fine, we are not you. If you want to have the perfect recreation of trains, then ..... you can imagine the answer
It’s fine as it is. It may have the wrong Gummybearbadonkadonk or whatever but I doubt more than about five people care.
