Out Now Wsr: Remaster, Next Core Update & Formation Designer Beta

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  1. DTG Alex

    DTG Alex Senior Community Manager Staff Member

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    West Somerset Railway: Remastered
    A free upgrade is available to all Train Sim World 4 players that own the West Somerset Railway route Add-on! New scenery, a short boundary extension, TSW4 features and a whole new timetable give England’s longest heritage railway a new lease of life!
    • TOD4 Lighting and Dynamic Weather
    • Volumetric Fog and Chained Paths in Scenario Planner
    • Scenery Updates, including Minehead town, Watchet Harbour and the yard at Bishops Lydeard
    • Audio improvements to the route, Class 47, Class 09 and Class 33 and Class 52 loco Add-ons
    • Short extension to the track scenery at Norton Fitzwarren to include part of the Bristol – Exeter Main Line for AI traffic.
    • Coal loading, functioning water towers and AI whistling at whistle board locations.
    • A new, additional timetable based on the real-world gala timetable from 2022 allowing for steam services, shuttles, winter specials and rail tours for players with relevant Add-ons.
    Read our WSR Remastered article for a full list of details, including new features, a new timetable and all the playable layers & required content.

    WSR Remaster Livestream - tonight!



    Winter Core Update – the next release
    We hope you all enjoy the new lease of life given to West Somerset Railway, and it’s at this stage we wanted to let you know what’s happening with the next part of our Winter Core update, which is due next week.

    We’ll provide a full Patch Notes list with the update, but to whet your collective whistles, here are some highlights which we’re currently testing and hope to release:
    • Improved PIS Brightness for more visibility and readability in day/night
    • Multiple Free Roam fixes for locos that weren’t able to move after spawning
    • Scoring adjustments so achieving a Platinum medal is more in line with expectations
    • Added option to disable Traction Lock icon in the Minimal HUD

    Formation Designer – Open Beta
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    Alongside next week’s update, we’ll be offering Steam players the opportunity to try out and feed back on perhaps the most exciting of our upcoming Core updates, Formation Designer. However, we’ll be doing it a little differently than normal.

    Formation Designer will allow you to assemble your own consists and formations for use in Scenario Planner and Free roam. This will increase customisation options to create the perfect Scenario and remove the need to spawn different preset formations into the world and rearrange them manually (although that can be quite fun in itself). In its final release, Formation Designer will also allow for your created consists and combinations to be share via Creators Club, similar to Livery Designer and Scenario Planner.

    Because of the sheer number of permutations and options players will be able to combine, testing every possible option is very challenging – so, rather than hold the update any longer, we’re looking for your help. We’ll open up a bespoke feedback forum with details on how you can get involved with the beta, and you can let us know what you think. What you enjoy, what you don’t enjoy, any issues you encounter and any combinations of rolling stock which are proving challenging. Please note: this beta is only available for Steam players. For players of other platforms, we’ll release Formation Designer when we’ve had a chance to review initial beta feedback, and we’re happy it’s ready.

    We want it to be a cornerstone of player creativity going forward, so want to bring you into the fold as we shape it up for full release. More details to come next week, but we thank you all in advance – we can’t wait to see what you think!


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  2. Dinosbacsi

    Dinosbacsi Well-Known Member

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    Looka nice. But weren't the suspension improvents for the rest of the TSW4 routes also supposed to come with the winter patch?
     
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  3. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    In regards to the mini HUD - do the settings for this save. Its getting tiresome having to change my settings every time I load the game.
     
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  4. DTG Alex

    DTG Alex Senior Community Manager Staff Member

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    We've not got any further news to share on Suspension Improvements just yet, our teams are still working hard to deliver the feature, but at the moment it isn't close to release.
     
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  5. dxltagxmma

    dxltagxmma Well-Known Member

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    About the 'open beta' for the Formation Designer - to me it reads like as if it's a restricted access to the beta - is that the case - and if yes, is it limited to a specific amount of people or can anyone join? I'm just confused if the beta is available to anyone on Steam on release next week or if it's only available through Steam's beta testing feature (either publicly or privately)
     
  6. applesnax#6064

    applesnax#6064 Active Member

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    So the formation designer will be in beta for steam users. Will formation designer be available down the line for console users as well? Or will it be a PC only thing like the editor?
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Better not be as it is a promised game feature.
     
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  8. dtg_jan

    dtg_jan Community Manager Staff Member

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    Hey there,

    the Formation Designer will release as an open beta to all users on Steam.

    All the best,
    Jan
     
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  9. CK95

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    I’d love to hear what the more senior folks at DTG think about how their development is going.

    Kind of embarrassing that you’re struggling so much with getting launch features out of the gate 4 months on. Launch has come & gone, now the winter update has come & gone. Now we have an ‘open beta’ that is actually closed off to the majority of the userbase. Where are the goalposts moving to next?

    JT came along with their first TSW DLC & have blown DTG’s TSW4 offerings out the water.

    Considering that we have a couple of routes barely announced & less than 8/9 months before the next inevitable gymnastics of a new title, I’d say TSW4 hasn’t gone too well overall - certainly not anything that TSW 3 likely couldn’t of delivered, and DTG could of held their insatiable appetite for cash back by a year. Maybe then they could have delivered a half decent title update.

    You guys were barely able to deliver a 2 yearly update & you genuinely thought there was some sort of capability to squish it down to 1 year?

    This ordeal reminds me of that Skyhook Jane fiasco, what an utter circus this is turning into.
     
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  10. traindori

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    Nice update. Thanks for that. It looks so much better. Especially with the new lighting and much better vegetation, it gives so much more atmosphere. The “grass distance” has also been increased so that it looks more natural. Am satisfied. :cool:
     
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  11. dxltagxmma

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    With or without opt-in (I mean using Steam's beta testing feature where users can select public beta branches)?
     
  12. meMC83

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    Starting to fear another over promised, under delivered situation here. I should be surprised, but I’m not.
     
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  13. MarkCovz4761

    MarkCovz4761 Well-Known Member

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    Just played the route looks great well done
     
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    It does look good and there's some interesting services with the new Timetable, but it won't let you spawn on foot with the new Timetable active. There's only a couple bits of static stock about, so if you want to drive anything you either have to use to two useable stock DMU at Minehead and a Loco at Williton or use the Free Roam and add a service for yourself. It's rather annoying cos I really like spawning on foot and being able to choose what I'd like to do.
     
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    Time flies so fast
     
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    So it seems then that Formation designer is still a long way yet. Shame as it seems another core feature for a TSW title isn't available for a long time after initial release. I've gotta be honest, when it comes for the inevitable TSW5 reveal, if the core features for TSW4 aren't readily available or still broken, I won't be purchasing it.
     
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  17. OldVern

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    Still complete radio silence from Matt or JD. Who takes a 6 week holiday at this time of year when their game isn't exactly acing it? The WSR pack is appreciated as it's been done in spare time as a labour of love. But it's still marred by the apparent suspension of any further work on steam traction in the game - whether fixing core physics and operational issues or adding new content. It would be nice to hear from the EP the thinking behind this including the assertion that PFR sold so poorly no further steam routes are on the horizon.
     
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    I just hoppen in as free passenger in a 4F turning in the triangle at Norton Fitzwarren. And i saw two GWR HST:s passing. Looks great. And I'm keen ontrying the beta Formation Designeer.
     
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    Sweet, time to break the formation designer.
     
  20. Scorpion71

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    If features that were due to be in TSW4 and don't appear complete in TSW4 but are in TSW5 (and TSW5 only) then those of us who bought TSW4 should be entitled to a very heavy discount for TSW5!
     
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    Sooo is anyone gonna acknowledge the fact how a Class 33 is dragging an HST?
     
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    Little confused with the whistle boards does this mean that loco’s whistle when leaving stations or passing crossings?
     
  23. DTG JD

    DTG JD Director of Community and Marketing Staff Member

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    I think it's not too far off. The functionality is there in the beta, and a lot should work - at the moment it's testing the many, many different permutations.
     
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  24. Sharon E

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    So, does the discussion at 19.00 on Sunday 11 Feb. count as the Feb roadmap???
     
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  25. DTG JD

    DTG JD Director of Community and Marketing Staff Member

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    It will be, yes. We'll do a follow-up Q&A stream the Tuesday after (13th).
     
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  26. luca#3835

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    When will the BETA lunch ?
     
  27. MarkCovz4761

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    Hi JD is the roadmap this Tuesday or the following week
     
  28. vkulikovsky#8124

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    The update is very interesting. But I would like to see the shuttle service extended to Taunton.
     
  29. rennekton#1349

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    They will blow their whistles at the whistle boards
     
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    Nothing on mine as of yet
     
  31. MAX1319

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    I like the theme music. 2018 wow is been that long
     
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    Actually, it will be Sunday, 11 Feb at 1900 GMT. JD says the following Tuesday DTG will host a Q&A.
     
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    Hopefully the winter update will ensure that the hud settings save on xbox and ps5.

    Also please fix the right stick camera bug on ps5.
     
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    Yes, but we've heard this before.
     
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    DTG JD Director of Community and Marketing Staff Member

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    Aim is next week, alongside the other improvements we mentioned.
     
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    Thanks for the info
     
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    New WSR looks great! It will be one of the 1st things to check once I get to upgrade to TSW4+ some day.
     
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    the only thing i noticed that locomotives drive backwards from Minehead to Bishops Lydeard
    seems a bit silly with that turntable around there
     
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    Thank you
     
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    Some heritage railways do that in real life.
     
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    Practically winter core update become winter patching for broken new core features BD... Innsane...
     
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    Will you guys start adding platinum medals to legacy routes?
     
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    Anyone finding the 4F has issues in this iteration?

    Tried to start one of the pseudo freight services from Minehead but could not get the loco brakes to release, kept jumping back to 20% applied. Small ejector fully open and even with the large ejector open, which shouldn’t affect the steam brake, as soon as I let go of the release key, the brakes immediately reapplied. Gave up in the end and went back to doing something in Run 8.
     
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    Did you sound the whistle twice to have the 8F release the brakes at the back? I had no issues with the goods train.
     
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    I hope they will also patch some major bugs like the broken PZB lights of the BR 103, but I think that this won’t be the case.
     
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    Ah. Uninformed user error then! Shame there’s not a pop up note at the start of the run to highlight this.
     
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    True. It does rely on you remembering a somewhat niche feature of the PFR banking setup.
     
  48. ApollonJustice

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    Nice remaster. I Like it!
     
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    wait for that features in tsw 5.
     
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    Could you update the WSR remastered with Flying Scotsman taking 7 or 9 coach trains instead of 4 for the timetable also a 4 part railtour from Paddington to Minehead using Flying Scotsman and Leander not double heading but taking it in turns hauling The West Somerset Steam Express
     
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