Welcome all to my first suggestion for Train Sim World 4, I'm TrainGeek08 as ever and today I'm suggesting Doncaster to Hull but with two different branches to increase variety in the operators and the service pattern as well. Price: GBP: 34.99 EUR: 39.99 USD: 44.99 Route Information: The line to Selby utilizes part of the East Coast Main Line until Temple Hirst Junction where the line diverges towards Selby and the York-Hull line, whereas the line via Thorne North follows the South Humberside Main Line until Thorne Junction where the line diverges onto the line towards Goole until it meets with Staddlethorpe Junction near Gilberdyke where again it joins with the York-Hull line to arrive into Hull (Paragon) station. Route Map: KEY: Red - Doncaster to Hull via the ECML, Selby and Gilberdyke Blue - Doncaster to Hull via the SHML, Thorne North and Goole (ECML - East Coast Main Line, SHML - South Humberside Main Line) Stock included in base route: The British Rail Class 158 'Express Sprinter' (Perkins-engined) in Northern livery The British Rail Class 802 'Paragon' in Hull Trains livery Training (In Training Center): Northern Class 158 Introduction Class 802 Introduction Scenarios: Via Goole, Via Selby: (Difficulty - 2) Drive this Northern 158 from Doncaster to Hull via Goole then drive a Hull Trains 802 back to Doncaster via Selby Early Sprinter: (Difficulty - 1) Drive this Northern 158 ECS from Botanic Gardens TMD to Hull then form a passenger service to Halifax until Selby where another driver will take over Paragon Divert: (Difficulty - 3) Drive this diverted Hull Trains service via Goole and Thorne North to Doncaster in the ever changing conditions that today holds (features dynamic weather = fog -> rain -> thunderstorm -> rain) Down the East Coast: (Difficulty - 2) Drive this Hull Trains 802 between Doncaster to Brough where trains are being terminated due to an earlier signalling issue near Hessle Timetable: Here are the Working Timetables for May 2019 for this route: (You are interested in section YA03 for this one) 2019-05 WTT YA | Network Rail Corporate Archive (You are interested in section YE06 for this one) 2019-05 WTT YE | Network Rail Corporate Archive (You are interested in section YG04 for this one) 2019-05 WTT YG | Network Rail Corporate Archive Potential DLC, Layers, Stations & POI coming up on Pages 2 & 3...
Page 2: Potential DLC: The British Rail Class 800 'Azuma' in LNER livery for the two 'Hull Executive' services a day to/from Hull Training (In Training Center): Class 800 Introduction Scenarios: Hull Executive: (Difficulty - 1) Drive this LNER service from Doncaster to Hull via Selby on a Hull Executive service from London King's Cross Carr Night: (Difficulty - 2) This unit has arrived from King's Cross, but it does not stay in Hull overnight, it instead goes to Doncaster Carr IEP Depot where it gets maintained, so drive this empty unit to Doncaster Carr for stabling after a long day on the ECML Goole Experiment: (Difficulty - 1) LNER are experimenting whether the route through Goole can be used in a diversion, drive this LNER Azuma to Hull via Goole and hopefully the experiment proves positive results so LNER can start serving there Timetable: Incorporated into base routes' timetable Layers: The British Rail Class 801 'Azuma' in LNER livery (from ECML) for AI services on the ECML between Doncaster and Temple Hirst Junction and for services south to London or west to Leeds (for those that own it) The British Rail A3 Pacific 60103 'Flying Scotsman' in BR Brunswick Green (from Flying Scotsman Centenary Pack) for railtour traffic on the ECML and maybe the odd visit to Hull... The British Rail Class 66 'Shed' in EWS livery (from ECML, SEHS, RHTT, ECW & GWE) for AI freight operations around Doncaster and on the ECML plus steel traffic from Scunthorpe Steelworks Stations & POI coming up on Page 3...
Page 3: (Principal) Stations: Doncaster: Doncaster railway station is on the East Coast Main Line in England, serving the city of Doncaster, South Yorkshire. It is 155 miles 77 chains (251 km) down the line from London King's Cross and is situated between Retford and York on the main line. It is managed by London North Eastern Railway. It is a major passenger interchange between the main line, Cross Country Route and local services running across the North of England. It is also the point for which London North Eastern Railway services branching off to Leeds diverge from the main route continuing north towards Edinburgh. Selby: Selby railway station is a Grade II listed station which serves the town of Selby in North Yorkshire, England. The original terminus station was opened in 1834 for the Leeds and Selby Railway. The Hull and Selby Railway extended the line in 1840, and a new station was built, with the old station becoming a goods shed. The station was rebuilt in 1873 and 1891, the 1891 rebuilding being required due to the replacement of the swing bridge over the Ouse at the same time. Brough: Brough railway station serves the town of Brough in the East Riding of Yorkshire, England. It is managed by TransPennine Express, and also served by Northern, Hull Trains and London North Eastern Railway. The station was originally opened by the Hull and Selby Railway in 1840 and at one time had four tracks passing through. The course of the additional outer tracks (and the two disused platform faces) are still visible, although these were removed in the early 1970s. Howden: Howden railway station serves the town of Howden in the East Riding of Yorkshire, England. It is situated approximately 1.5 miles (2.4 km) north of the town in the hamlet of North Howden and is 22+1⁄4 miles (35.8 km) west of Hull Paragon. The station is managed by Northern, but is also served by TransPennine Express and Hull Trains. Thorne North: Thorne North railway station is a station on the Hull and Doncaster Branch serving the town of Thorne, South Yorkshire, England. Thorne North is one of two stations for the town, the other being Thorne South station, 1.3 miles away on the opposite side of the town which is used for services eastward towards Scunthorpe. Goole: Goole railway station is a railway station in town of Goole on the Hull and Doncaster Branch in the East Riding of Yorkshire, England. The station and its passenger services are managed and provided by Northern. Lines from Goole run north to the Hull and Selby Line at Gilberdyke (formerly Staddlethorpe); south to the South Humberside Main Line near Thorne; there is also a westward line to Knottingley mostly used by freight, with an infrequent passenger service. The station opened in 1869 replacing a terminus station in the Goole Docks. Hull: Hull Paragon Interchange is a transport interchange providing rail, bus and coach services located in the city centre of Kingston upon Hull, England. The G. T. Andrews-designed station was originally named Paragon Station, and together with the adjoining Station Hotel, it opened in 1847 as the new Hull terminus for the growing traffic of the York and North Midland (Y&NMR) leased to the Hull and Selby Railway (H&S). As well as trains to the west, the station was the terminus of the Y&NMR and H&S railway's Hull to Scarborough Line. From the 1860s the station also became the terminus of the Hull and Holderness and Hull and Hornsea railways. KEY: Red - on route via Selby Blue - on route via Thorne North Black - start/end points on the route Points of Interest (POI): Doncaster Carr IEP Depot: Doncaster Carr IEP depot (also known as Doncaster Train Maintenance Centre) is a railway vehicle maintenance depot located alongside the East Coast Main Line in Doncaster, England. It is presently operated by Hitachi as part of their contract to maintain the AT300 units for London North Eastern Railway and TransPennine Express. Doncaster (Wabtec) Works: Doncaster Railway Works is a railway workshop located in Doncaster, England. Also referred to as 'The Plant", it was established by the Great Northern Railway in 1853, replacing the previous works in Boston and Peterborough. Until 1867 it undertook only repairs and maintenance. Today the remaining part is operated by Wabtec. Goole Swing Bridge: The Skelton Viaduct, also known as the Hook bridge or Goole railway swing bridge, is a large viaducted hogback plate girder bridge with swing span over the River Ouse, Yorkshire near Goole, East Riding of Yorkshire, England. The bridge was designed by Thomas Elliot Harrison for the Hull and Doncaster Branch of the North Eastern Railway and opened in 1869. Siemens Goole: Siemens Goole is a train factory located in Goole, East Riding of Yorkshire, England. Siemens Mobility scoped several sites in the United Kingdom before settling on Goole with an intent to build the plant if it were successful in gaining orders for new rolling stock. After a June 2018 announcement that Siemens had won the bid to build 94 London Underground New Tube for London trains for the Piccadilly line of the London Underground, Siemens confirmed it would go ahead with building the factory, though this was then subject to further delays as other rolling stock companies objected to Siemens being given the contract. Humber Bridge: The Humber Bridge, near Kingston upon Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire, England, is a 2.22 km (2,430 yd; 7,300 ft; 1.38 mi) single-span road suspension bridge, which opened to traffic on 24 June 1981. When it opened, the bridge was the longest of its type in the world; it was not surpassed until 1998, with the completion of the Akashi Kaikyō Bridge, and is now the twelfth-longest. That's it for my first TSW4 suggestion everyone, I hope you enjoyed it for the effort I put in to make this masterpiece and I do hope that DTG or other third-party developers consider developing this route either separately or even bolting it onto ECML: Peterborough to Doncaster if that is what DTG would like to do, put your thoughts and opinions below as per usual, I've been TrainGeek08 as always, enjoy the rest of your day, and goodbye
Love this suggestion, would be nice for the bi-mode 800 to join the LNER family in game! Like jj said 170 would be cool on this route, I think they're a lovely piece of kit. But a great suggestion overall!
Thanks, yeah a 170 would be a DLC for the Northern side as the Sheffield to Scarborough workings run via Goole and Thorne North to get to Doncaster
I did state that the 800s run to Hull under the 'Potential DLC' section and is alluded to in the scenarios too I have been thinking after finishing this last night about York as well and joining up Selby with York via Sherburn-in-Elmet as well as extending the ECML to York to allow the 801 to get some playable services instead of being AI only
Very good suggestion! Would love an 800 with it's bi-modyness include base route but it's a good suggestion even with it as a DLC and I think dtg could probably do a good job at making this!
To be fair the 802s are also bi-mode so you still have to experience power changeovers around Temple Hirst Junction from diesel to electric (to Doncaster) or electric to diesel (to Hull)
Thanks, yes that would be a good idea if DTG have re-acquired the GWR license and if a GWR route was made in the future
Would love to see this in game. I work at Hull Station and travel there on the Humber Bridge for my work. I have so travelled on this line. The 170 is definitely needed, even if it is a future DLC as the line would be very quiet otherwise. And to add to the suggestion: for Northern Halifax services they are usually 3 car 158s, the 2 cars do the Doncaster stopper (although sometimes 2x 2 car 158s go to Halifax. Also the 170 Sheffield services occasionally go via Selby.
Cheers for the insight, yes the 170 could come as DLC for the Sheffield to Scarborough workings The 3-car 158s could be added along with the 2-car variant to get either formation in I didn't know the Sheffield to Scarborough workings did that, thanks for the information
No problem, thought I'd give my 2 cents as I know a fair bit about the workings on this route. Would this be set before or after Platform 1 at Hull Paragon is brought back into use. Could maybe make for an interesting scenario. Or even the swing bridge at Goole being closed (which was fairly recent).
Set it after Platform 1 was brought back into use to enable a scenario where you drive the first ever train out of Platform 1 since its reopening The Goole Swing Bridge closure could also be represented in a scenario as well where you drive a diverted Northern service via Selby to get to Doncaster
Great suggestion mate, would be a great one to have in game especially seeing what we are getting with TSW4.
Correct and for Hull Trains it's also owned by the First Group which also owns GWR. For DTG they need to negotiate with First group rail division for Hull trains Avanti West Coast and GWR brands
Agreed, this network would be great to have in TSW in the future Thanks, I enjoy making up the names of them and will continue to do that when I do suggestions for routes and trains
Something I'd like to add. The 801s are mentioned as layers for the Selby/Doncaster end. They could also go to Hull, albeit only the 5-cars and they would need to be attached to a 5-car 800. A rare practice, but a possibility.
A scenario would be better. I've only seen it happen once (they mostly use a 9-car 800), but it's still a possibility. It'd also give the 801 more to do.
This is a suggestion I've been screaming since TSW1 lol. I'd say you need a 170 for the Sheffield express services, and the LNER dlc could be replaced by maybe a class 150 reskin from West Cornwall Local to simulate the York trains. I feel this is a perfect route because of all the Possibilities it provides- All stop and Semi fast passenger, good freight stuff too. Nice one
