Tsw6 Core Route Predictions

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  1. ilovelucky63

    ilovelucky63 Well-Known Member

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    A J94 or GWR Pannier :)
     
  2. f__s_cw

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    Unlikely. Dtg rely on console business to keep tsw going so whilst the game is finally moving away from gen 8, I don’t see any PC only dlc happening soon
     
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  3. spikeyorks

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    How about the Romney, Hythe and Dymchurch railway?
    Not only is it running today (so it hits the 'modern-day' brief) but, if the Dungeness line is also modelled, there's even somewhere to run the nuclear flask wagons.
    So a "Win, Win, Win". (Steam / Modern day / Nuclear). :cool: :D
     
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    Why does everyone want the west coastway? It’s another 40 mile straight line with the same sort of stock already over represented in this sim
     
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    Not to mention a total bus stop with most stations very close together. I only travelled across there once and was glad to get off at Brighton for a fast train back to Victoria.
     
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  6. spikeyorks

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    Snowdon Mountain Railway?
    Modern Day, Diesel, Interesting scenery........and, I hear, this route is definitely on the up.
    Summit to look forward to perhaps? ;)
    (Although, I accept, some people just have a downer on it) ;)
     
  7. ilovelucky63

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    Getting just a tank engine (other than Thomas) or another standard gauge heritage line seems an impossibility so as much as I’d absolutely love the RHDR on TSW, it just isn’t going to happen. I enjoy playing TSW but I am always hoping a competitor comes on the scene to make them up their game (pardon the pun)
     
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    Because that is the type of route I enjoy and play the game for.

    I was an LRT driver for 30 years before I retired so short bus stop routes are my nostalgia.
     
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    It is definitely time that we see a return for Metro North Railroad. I would like to see the Hudson and New Haven Lines, featuring the P32AC-DM, Shoreliner push pull coaches, and M8. We have not seen Metro North since TSW2
     
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  10. OldVern

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    With regard to the American route, I am now pondering with the release of the low cost/free HSP46 this could slot into a new MBTA route without too much revenue abstraction. So maybe something out of Boston North this time, towards Rockport and Newbury Port. Loving the ‘46 so bring it on!
     
  11. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    I have grown quite fond of US passenger diesels to drive in TSW, tho I would prefer Chargers as those are gradually becoming the backbone of Amtrak's and other fleets for both commuter and long-distance services
     
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    If the UK route is GWR I think it'll be a modern day London Oxford, separate from the original GWE that is being remastered imminently(?).
    DTG must know that the Crossrail 345 will sell well, and it might even be behind the deluxe edition paywall. I'd probably prefer something more diesel, or in Wales but I guess the option that'll bring in the most revenue will be the obvious choice.
     
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    I really have almost no idea what routes they will come up with.
    One of the following below would be nice.

    - West Highland Line
    - Cologne - Koblenz

    - ECML London King's Cross - Peterborough
    - Amersfoort - Amsterdam
    - S Bahn Wien


    Third party developers

    - Manchester - Leeds (maybe Just Trains)

    Skyhook games (I guess on a UK route)
    Rivet games (No idea)
    TrainSim Germany (possible Munchen - Rosenheim 1990)

    List



      • Rivet Games
      • Skyhook Games
      • SimTrack
      • Luminaries
      • Alan Thomson Sim
      • JustTrains
      • RailTraction
      • Train-Motion
      • TrainSim Germany
      • Union Workshop
      • Ticket to the North
      • Halycon Media
      • RSSLO
      • High Iron Simulation
      • Athena Simulation
      • Incredible Trains
      • Travel by Train

     
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  14. OldVern

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    I can't see anyone duplicating NTP and it's already been done in JT's preferred era which is BR Classic.
     
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    I hope it's not a preserved railway. While they're fun to visit in person they're really dull in simulators.
    Likewise a remote, beautiful route through the Scottish Highlands. No thanks.
    Also the more I use Crossrail through London the more apparent it becomes that it would be a very tedious, all-stations drive either side of a section in the tunnel that would either be ATO or require precise braking to line-up with the platform doors.

    Here's hoping the UK route from DTG will be a busy, modern route with new rolling stock, a busy Timetable with varied stopping patterns. Please.
     
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  16. spikeyorks

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    How about Leeds to Leeds via Harrogate and York. That more or less covers everything we have so far stock wise.
    Add The Voyager as a separate, paid for, new train. Reskin the CL150, 153 and 170 into Northern livery.
    You could even have Thomas paying a visit to the NRM. :D
     
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    My Wishlist:
    ECML North or WCML North
    Sfs Frankfurt - Köln or Something from Munich
    Another NEC route or the New Haven Line

    My predictions:
    Cardiff - Bristol w/ GWR Class 158 & 150

    This makes sense. Dovetail went through the effort of getting the GWR license for the remaster and it would build upon the Cardiff route. HST, 166, 150 (TfW & GWR), 158, 153 and later 142 layers for a varied operation. Not a colossal route either.

    Sfs Frankfurt - Köln w/ ICE 4
    On my wishlist and one I've suggested before (well-recieved), I think Frankfurt - Köln will be the "big" route, building on the two Frankfurt routes and bringing Köln and Frankfurt together. I could see it as the 'finale' for Frankfurt, given the performance issues, but it could afford to cut out some layers there. Also reopens the door to more NRW routes.

    Something MBTA
    The MBTA seem to be their best friends in America and I'd imagine they build on that. Perhaps something with Amtrak too.
     
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    I put what I wouldn't want, here's my somewhat predictable wishlist. I'll go for modern era routes because they seem more likely and I'm aware there are licensing issues with some while they remain in the hands of private TOCs.

    C2C/LTS - Fenchurch Street to Shoeburyness - Classes 66/86 for freight. Classes 357 and 720 for passenger.
    GEML - Liverpool Street to Ipswich plus a branch that doesn't go to Braintree. Classes 66/86 for freight, 720/745 for passenger.
    SWR - Waterloo to Southampton or Portsmouth. Classes 444, 450 and 701.
    ECML South - Kings Cross to Peterborough. Classes 91, 379, 387, 700, 707, IETs.
    WAML Liverpool Street/Stratford to Cambridge/Stansted Airport. Classes 170, 720, 745, 755.
    Wherry/Bittern Lines - Norwich to Sheringham/Gt Yarmouth/Lowestoft. Class 755, maybe 153s and 170s for a transition timetable.

    Yep, mostly the usual London to somewhere out of London suggestions from me and I doubt we'd get more than 2 new items of traction to play with so some of the above will be highly unlikely.
     
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    TSW6 core route suggestions

    UK: Aldgate-Uxbridge and Watford S7/8
    GER: Frankfurt-Koblenz
    US: New Haven Line and/or Hudson Line

    I just hope for the love of TSW6 that Rivet are not involved with any of the route building. Also l hope that we don’t have to re-install all of our products into TSW6 as this is truly an unwanted chore and would make me decline from purchasing it!!
     
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  21. Canadian Follower

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    I believe we’ll get our first Florida route. With the Tri-Rail license being secured by “another train simulator” according to the “Grasping Straws Or Potential Hint Of a New Usa license…” I think it makes a ton of sense because there’s really no other train simulator games that I know of that would need/want a Tri-Rail license..
     
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  22. trainnick77

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    I don’t think we will get it this time, but would love to see the settle Carlisle, from hellifield to Carlisle, with a 156, just about everything is available in game for layers at Carlisle and freight, and hellifield is usually the loco swap point for steam excursions
     
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    Or the Haverhill line which I believe might allow some connection with the Amtrak Downeaster if DTG ever decide to venture into Amtrak territory again.
     
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    C2C for the UK and Frankfurt-Köln Schnellfahrstrecke for Germany would be great choices....The gradients on Frankfurt-Köln are too much for TSC to handle, but in TSW it can be done from what I´ve read on these forums. It would make it a very unique experience, because it´s the one German route that will never come to TSC.
     
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  25. star#5823

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    Wish list I guess

    uk: route literally anything but a England over head wire route

    Germany/ Austria: pre 2000s would be nice

    US: FREIGHT
     
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    I’d really love to see an Austrian route again. A Railjet would be an absolute dream especially since it also runs on other routes that partly take place in Austria and TSW already. The kind of route I’d wish for would focus less on mountains and more on speed, which naturally brings us to the Westbahn and the section up to St. Pölten. The Westbahn between St. Pölten and Wien Meidling uses ETCS, so I don’t see that happening. But Salzburg to Wels/Linz would be seriously awesome.

    Anyway, we’ll see what’s coming.
     
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  27. MrSouthernDriver

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    These are my Thoughts on TSW6s Core Route Lineup.

    !!two of these are also based on leaks and rumours, so spoilers ahead!!


    UK - South Western Mainline - Southampton to Bournemouth + Lymington Pier

    STOCK: Class 450, Class 444

    Reason: We Already have Essentially a 450, just needs some changes and the 444 can just be done similar to how Cardiff was done with the 153. Makes sense as it's Another UK Mainline, which has seen a pattern in the Franchise, and it's got decent length and route variety.


    US: Miami West Palm Beach - Miami Central/Airport - West Palm Beach.

    STOCK: Tri Rail F40PH-3C and Tri-Rail BL36-PH

    Reason: the reason this route could be a possibility is because it was originally done in Train Sim Classic, but that isnt the biggest reason... It's also this.
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    Tri-rail have already been taken by a "train simulator" with exclusive rights to the licence
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    Germany/DE: Waldbahn - Bavarian Forest Railway.

    Reason: some assets of it were leaked in Artstation.

    Without spoiling anything here's the link to that thread and that rabbit hole

    https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/possible-new-german-route-leak-spoiler-potentially.91359/



    Anyway, that's what I think could be coming to TSW6, based off what I've seen and what I think could be coming.
     
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    got this screenshot from someone on discord. Not sure of the exact server, but it's a developer who tried to apply for the Tri-Rail licence, but they got rejected, due to another developer having the reservation and exclusivity of said licence
     
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    Waldbahn is the only interesting thing in that list ... and as they won´t make the whole network with all five ending points, it will get boring fast. BR 650 is like the german version of class 142. It´s going to be another bus service route, with Plattling beeing the only station of the route, where you will see some AI traffic.
    The other two routes are on TSC... not interesting for me. But someone only playing TSW might see that differently.
     
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    MrSouthernDriver

    Sorry, but who is being denied the right to use this license? I assume DTG?

    And may I ask you not to share all sorts of things when the source is completely untraceable and you actually have no idea who or what posted it, or whether it might even be entirely made up. This can be harmful and, if you ask me, I find it really reprehensible. We (other users) truly cannot do anything with this. You also can’t verify it at all, and it could easily violate the forum rules because you're sharing things without us knowing how they were obtained.

    And why not just share what you genuinely enjoy, instead of things that add very little and come across as trying to show off like “look what I’ve found”? And don’t scrape random stuff from Discord when you have no idea whether it’s real or not.

    toms87

    To my knowledge, DTG and other third-party developers haven’t had any licensing opportunities for the Länderbahn for train simulators. So I’m wondering whether the Länderbahn is actually a real possibility. And that link with the two assets doesn’t convince me at all just like all the other nonsense
     
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    Why are you getting all angry with your heels up high because I'm saying what could be added to the game based on sources I've read?

    And with these leaks, I at least have the decency to spoil this kind of stuff, for people who don't know, or don't want to be spoiled, I'm being mindful about it.

    The truth of the source, is that it comes from a discord server, based around a developer who is making a Tri-Rail game and didn't get it's licence because another "Train Simulator" was holding it. And have exclusive rights to that. What do you want me to do? Print it off on a piece of paper and send it to your doorstep? That's the truth, nothing more.

    How does this come across to you as "showing off"? People share leaks on video games all the time, stuff gets leaked all the time. That's the way things work in the video game industry.

    And for the Artstation leak, it is clear evidence, routes in the past have been leaked from art station, take WCML S for instance, it is certainly a possibility.


    So, please, stop getting so angry, and calm down.
     
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    Just saying the leakers have tended to be pretty accurate over the years and it adds to the speculation fun IMO. Not sure why the unofficial forum police need to involve themselves.

    The Florida rumor sounds pretty legit IMO, especially considering Matt's comment from a year, or so ago, and that no other known train sim is likely to make a TriRail route.

    SimRail seems focused on Poland for now, TSC is essentially in maintenance mode (and they've already done it once there), and Run8 doesn't get actual licenses lmao.

    So, it's either TSW, a brand-new sim, or tbf totally BS. My money's on TSW.

    I'm personally hoping for an NJT or Metro North route for the US portion.
     
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    Okay whatever i was not angry at all.... It was more a request to think about what the sources are that you shared nothing more.
     
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    From a UK perspective we all want different things but SWR has been done before in TSC.

    it’s surely the time for LTS / c2c
     
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    For the LTS, if they cover the whole route, surely it would have to come with the District Line train as the bonus dlc? Otherwise it’s the same sort of train repeated over and over.

    SWT/R would be more interesting. Either a suburban network ending around Woking, or a more main-line one like others have said between Bournemouth (or Poole) and Southampton, maybe even extending to Portsmouth Harbour? Bonus points for the container docks and interactive loading / unloading!
     
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    Agree it would need the district line as the London end would feel empty. And DLR too.

    I think it’s still an interesting line though and not saying SWR is not.

    LTS has three ports on the rail network plus a mixture of some rush hour expresses combined with urban stoppers. A single line branch line between two main lines giving three alternative routes from one end to the other.

    Using different routes it could be possible to drive a freight train from London Gateway to Barking, then on to the Gospel Oak line before heading north on the WCML.
     
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    Dundee to Aberdeen with Waterloo yards so we can get the class 70 which is the main loco for those yards

    Passenger train with be the scotrail class 43

    Layers: scotrail class 158, scotrail class 170, flying Scotsman, class 20, class 37, class 40/45 for a reference to the past, class 800 (painfully)
     
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    MML - St Pancras to Bedford class 700 (in game already), class 360 (have 350 as a base) and class 222 depends if it was EMT or EMR time period stock wise as could have HST as well.
     
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    Ideally also with the Thameslink core (so STP LL)
     
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    NJT and Metro North are both good, but if Miami then there is a chance of P42DC or ALC-42. And TSW needs it more then any other passenger content for US.

    But I'm still hoping we will get Sounder route(Seattle - (Tacoma)Lakewood).
     
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    Well, i'd take any route to get an Amtrak diesel in the game lol. I've pretty much given up on it, but you're right it's the top missing item for US passenger.

    I don't know too much about Seattle- is that a commuter rail line? I know Amtrak runs in that area as well.
     
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    It can be everything line. Sounder Commuter, Amtrak Cascades and Coast Starlight, many freight trains from Seattle to Tacoma. The part from Tacoma to Lakewood is for Sounder trains to fully complete the line.
     
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    My prediction is they'll do what they did with Austria, and combine the German route with the new country, in this case the Netherlands.

    Realistically that's probably Duisburg - Arnhem, or Deventer to Osnabruck.

    With the former you could add possibly the NS Flirt 2 as the new train, with an ICE3neo as the deluxe option.
    With the latter, you could also add the Flirt 2 and an NS Vectron, with perhaps the ICNG as the deluxe train.

    Plenty of layering with both, and either could - and would need to - include existing freight traffic, presumably the 185 again. And Dostos of course.
     
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    For the many who want LTS/c2c, may I ask what is special about it because it seems to be a run of the mill commuter network?

    Is it the prospect of a full, complete network or is anything particularly interesting?
     
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    I think set in the NSE era with older units would be really cool. Plus there's freight.
     
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    Horses for courses...

    The LTS is a perfect route to be a end to end self contained line. It has the potential to have the same appeal of London to Brighton if not better.

    I think it would be a fantastic little route. But I don't think it is going to be the flagship route nor do I believe it's in development. Interestingly I believe it's the next line to be nationalised and with DTGs relationship with the DfT, it does open up future potential of it being developed...
     
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  48. Canadian Follower

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    Yes! NJ Transit is one of the licenses I think dovetail is severely underutilizing..
     
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    As far as the UK route goes they always have a high speed component to a launch route. So it’s not going to be a commuter route.

    And they got the GWR license back for a reason. It wasn’t for the remaster. I’d look at that part of the country for where the next launch route would be.
     
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    I feel like DTG should focus the next US route around NYC with either the MTA or NJT, Matt already stated they want to give players a break from SoCal, and I don't see them doing 2 MBTA routes back to back. Tri Rail is really the only wildcard, as we don't know much about that licensing deal, such as when it went into effect.
     

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