Was The Riviera Line Made In The Correct Time Period?

I don't think you get how much work and bandwidth that would take to accomplish.

 

If they're doing previous years then the route should be completely redone to fit that era otherwise you're going to get a LOT of inaccuracies where track has been ripped up over time. Historical content should be done properly to give it the respect it deserves.

 

To answer the what if scenario. I'd keep all three routes but Riviera Line would be set in the 1950's because I'd like to see Brunel's GWR in TSW, the real GWR. Panniers, Manors, Granges, Castles, Kings, the list goes on. A steam era version done properly would provide the ultimate Riviera experience.

EMU fans have plenty of content to play with, it won't hurt them to have a release in a different era. All Aboard have their first route coming and that looks fantastic.

JT are building a great 1980's BR Blue experience, let's leave them to that.

Steam though? We've got four locomotives and two routes. Three of those locomotives are LMS and one LNER, while GWR and Southern have nothing. That's before you even dive into Germany and USA, they don't have any steam traction represented in TSW whatsoever. I've seen plenty of users asking for a Big Boy.

Regardless though, we're going to keep talking about it and we're going to keep requesting historical content. Throwing the same old reasons and statistics about isn't going to change anything, we all know why DTG stick to modern era content but we can still show there's interest in other eras.

Matt himself has said if you want to see anything in TSW then keep talking about it, otherwise there is absolute 0% chance of change. That's what we're doing here, if we stay quiet then nothing will ever change for the better.

You can try and dampen the mood all you want, but that won't stop us.

 

Not sure what you mean. Mods are available that backdate the Paddington route by changing some textures and item shapes (platform accessories mostly). Not particularly big downloads and I assume not too time consuming or people probably wouldn't have made it a free mod).

DTG could incorporate this technology into the game properly so console users could get it too and it would probably boost sales of retro gameplay packs for example.

Yes obviously it wouldn't be a perfect route, but it would be a lot more fun to run classic diesels on a 80s style route than not at all and since there doesn't seem to be any desire to remake a route in a different time period (people probably wouldn't want to pay in full time for the same route even if some sidings were different) it would be a relatively low cost, easy solution.

 

Ah yes mods the thing only about 1/3 of the community can actually use since there’s no way in hell the console Companies are letting in game, it already takes over a year for simple addons for transport fever 2 to come to consoles for example,

If DTG wants the most money then they should really fix the core for steam locos and give us a stable build of the game with making it easier to become a third party then everyone wins

it wouldn’t kill the game to pull a tsw 2 again

 

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DTG has said time and time again that when it comes to the feedback they directly get and what people buy the desire is overwhelmingly for modern era stuff.

 

I'd like to remind you this started with a select few people whining about the current era setting. Just trains content doesnt tend to attract the same complaints from fans of modern content.

I agree with your sentiment but it applies less to fans of modern on the forum, but instead to the people that jump on every modern route with 'no one wants this, bus routes are boring'.

Most of us do like all kinds of traction, but get tired of every new route that looks great being ripped apart because it doesn't remind a forum member of their child hood.

Develop/ suggest older era routes instead of moaning about modern ones that people are enjoying.

Think about it. If a dev makes a modern route and saw a few people complaining that it's not set in the 80s, they'll take one look at their sales figures (the 70% in favour in the poll as an example) and decide those people should be ignored.

However, if they see a suggestion with a bunch of positive responses, they may very well take that on.

Complaining about the era of a route is boring, hearing about bus routes is boring. Be productive and discuss the routes being designed if you're interested, suggest other ones if you're not.

 

Exactly, I shall keep talking about it until someone with some authority tells me to stop.

Things change, opinions shift, who knows what might happen in the future. The player base might change. Steam does well in TSC from what I can see, eventually some of those people might decide TSC has run it's course.

 

Yeah! Honestly I am perfectly happy with the current route. I really like the modern GWR stock and the Voyager is just perfect.

 

This.
100%.
Be specific and request specific things, not just "want older stuff" or "this sucks because it's new" or "it's not steam it sucks."
Suggest a specific route, a specific loco, etc.
It's just a lot more constructive and less destructive.
It doesn't do any specific constrcutive good to just say "this is the wrong era."
What does a dev exactly do with that information?
It's not specific criticism, it's just complaining.
Instead go suggest something different and explain why it would be good for DTG.

Again, as I keep saying... put yourself in their shoes as if you ran the company.
How would you like your feedback?
If you released a product and someone just said "it sucks".... does that really help you in any way?
The suggestion thread has been used quite a bit recently (I think all three of the TSW 6 routes were mentioned in Suggestion threads if I'm not mistaken) They don't link one to the other directly as in they won't say "well we'll get on that one right away!" But, you can see where some detailed suggestions are making their way to in game content.

I'm just not sure that ranting in an unrelated thread or simply saying you hate something is going to get anything out of the devs because it's just not constructive feedback. As we used to say in project management it's not "actionable content."

"Do something in the 1970s" for example is so vague to be pointless.
"Do steam stuff" is the same.
"This sucks. I want it some other time period" is another vague example that's useless.

Instead of "I want this because I want it", instead suggest "This will sell because X,Y,Z."
If you REALLY think people will buy another Riviera route in the 1950s when this one isn't even out yet...make your case. Shoot your shot. Be thorough and sell it to them as a benefit to them since they're the ones taking the risk, not you.

Focus on what's positive and constructive. It increases your chances of being seen.
That includes not just routes and locos, but practical solutions to issues and features too.

I love going through the suggestions thread. Most won't get done ("Do something French!") but some like Riviera and the 220 get done in some form. Be specific and be kind.