--Just letting y'all know I'm only in for just a bit, I'm going to have to get all these sent over tomorrow, but I've got a list!-- Edit: I've been crazy busy last week and this week, not ignoring folks, and also doing a lot of bug reports and updates for various DLCs. I am talking with AABS about updates. I should have good news soon, so stay tuned.
Looking at the network mapping, plus May 2025 National Rail mapping noting not all lines are shown on this map. But somehow I can't work out where Stoke on Trent branch is at Stafford, unsure where the crossover line goes to prior to Wolverhampton a short distance from station where 60mph post is. Evidently the branch south of Wolverhampton station towards Birmingham New Street is the Walsall kind of branch, plus Shrewsbury branch somewhere along their. Not that it matters has these aren't included in the add on but referenced instead, either by part route or AI.
With respect, and I do mean that, the delays on this are unacceptable and now when I hear ‘coming soon’ or ‘good news’ I have no faith. a detailed explanation of what, why and how this route went so incredibly wrong would be appreciated and what (if anything) is being done to prevent it happening again would be appreciated.
With respect, that will be discussed internally. there's no need to publicise such details as it will only feed the witch hunt. If I was a betting man ( and i'm definately not! ) I would say DTG failed to do their due diligence with a comprehensive QC process, ESPECIALLY since All Aboard are new, and it's more than likely ( Like ATS did ) they did what they considered to be correct, that then turned out to be not quite right. ATS had a second pass through QC and delivered a solid route. It seems All Aboard were fast tracked to release and didn't receive the support they needed to nail it, whether it needed 2 or 10 QC reviews. Obviously DTG aren't going to hold their hand up and say ""Guys, we should have given All Aboard more quality support"" they'll just bury their heads as usual, and All Aboard get a bad rep for a less than perfect first DLC.
To be fair, when the route is behaving itself, and you're not driving a 350 it is actually very good. I'm currently continuing my "Driver's Shift" with a Pendolino from New Street to Crewe and I have to say blasting through those reverse curves between Stafford and Crewe at 125 MPH is exhilarating. In fact I'd have to check, but I've probably spent more time/distance on this route than the Riviera Line!
--- I promise I'm not being avoidant, I've just had back-to-back DLCs released in the past few weeks, and we're waiting on folks to get in from vacations/leave that were preplanned before the releases. It's an interesting time to join the team, as I've had days with tons of information and days of silence, too. As soon as I have definitive yeses/nos on updates and can share them, I will. I do know what's been worked on and am just waiting on status confirmations before I say more, as I'm just the community team and have to wait on confirmations from the devs. My main goal right now is that I don't want y'all to feel abandoned by my silence due to my being busy. As for the QA/QC portion, I can't personally answer that, but that is definitely something I've asked and escalated to the right teams on the day this release went out. I know changes are being made and lessons were learned by AABS and DTG, but I am not privy to the exact changes. I will share any information I'm given to share as soon as I'm allowed. I know Alex is working on getting notes and information, too, so we can give you more exact updates and send information out faster. It's just mostly in a waiting stage as stuff is finalized and updates are set up for the route right now, but I know the updates that are coming will be great for the players, so I'm excited. And yes, I am asking you to "trust me bro," but I'm invested in this too, it's my first release with the team. *I type way too much, sorry y'all!
It’s not you we (or at least I) feel abandoned by. It’s DTG & AAS who have not given us a route that works properly or who themselves have not communicated properly with us about the problems. you don’t type too much and what you do type is appreciated.
Is this game worth playing yet I had to get a refund last time coz I was sick of getting red lights when I wasn't even near 1 at all
I’ve spent the last two evenings on the route, different runs and not encountered stuck trains or AI SPAD’s including loading in from a save. That’s not to say there aren’t still issues. I started an 350 run back from Crewe to Birmingham and it was immediately announcing approaching the final stop at Euston. The timetable still lacks arrival times and all the Manchester XC services are described as going to Stafford only. However, when it works well the route is doing okay, just as stated previously the glue that holds it together needs far more polish.
To elaborate on my previous response. Wait until the long awaited ‘fix all’ patch is released and if everyone says it’s working better after that then get it. You’ve already refunded once, so don’t give them a bean until they’ve delivered on their promise to fix it.
So the 153 and 158 both have two moves into crewe station and thats it. So where is it they go then from there. I thought they would have gone down to Stafford because the platform you go onto is the dead end one.
It would have been nice to see an either/or layer for the TfW 150 or 2 x153 rather than just the 150. At Crewe the TfW sets could be doing through Marches to Manchester services, or trains starting at Crewe for Chester and the North Wales Coast. Though I’m guessing they should really be Class 197’s at this point. The EMT 158 I would imagine is for the Crewe to Derby (and beyond) services.
Ha! The route finally bit me in the bottom. Working 9Y20 about 3 miles after departing Wolverhampton I had the service terminate due to an AI SPAD. ****Get this sorted please, DTG DTG Matt . Player should not be penalised because a service elsewhere on the route has a SPAD. The core needs to be changed so the train(s) involved are removed from the game not the player one. If need be put up a warning note to the player that the timetable may behave erratically as a result but allow the run to continue. So much for my attempt at a Driver's Day on this route.
The TFW sets from those bay platforms go via Shrewsbury to Newport via the Welsh Marches route, so they head to the south west past Gresty Lane depot on leaving Crewe.
XC 1M41, when you start this service the train (8 car) is set to depart platform 7B which makes the front set foul the signal (you can still play it as the next signal is on a proceed aspect). The consist should be set to start at the middle of platform 7
Was initially put off buying this route, but seeing how the feedback has been received (well done candacedtg ) I decided to buy it. Definitely no regrets, what an amazing route. There is such a great attention to detail. I love the 'RA' showing up, that was an excellent surprise. It's also a great route for the 390 and 220. It is running well on my PC too, only dips in frame rates are at BHM and CRE. My feedback is mostly around the Class 350. Door open button always illuminated, should only be illuminated when doors are released. Doors locked light in cab doesn't work Make the TMS the first thing you see when you press the right arrow on the keyboard. Coupling up - should it be the same as the 380 (as in confirm formation)? No slow speed control? No BIL illuminated when cab door open. Interior cab door doesn’t close automatically. Doors locked light not illuminating at guard panel. Missing 30MPH speed sign just south of WVH. Missing 60 mph sing south of Crewe (seen from 87 run) Having to stop right on the marker in BHM, stopped 5 yards away and had to move to the exact point to finish task.
