West Coast Main Line: Trent Valley From All Aboard Studios

You can start/end a mission at a red without having to load/unload passengers...
That could be a solution for those with only one of the contiguous routes.
But for those who owned both, then, of course, the best is, at least, the "continue session ?" pop-up followed by a loading screen.
And for TSW666, scenery is loading sequentially and no more loading screen.

 

not really realistic though is it if you have a high speed train that runs 125mph fast starting at a red signal. What TSW needs is a feature like TSC has in that you can start a scenario with the rolling start. Ie the train already on the move.

 

What a great route choice, happy with B2C personally as a PS5 player as I never had any actual issues with the route. Wonderful we can essentially now do Euston to Carlisle in TSW. One thing I do hope though is that DTG fix the WCML south

 

That's a random event mate !

Jokes aside, starting a mission on the move isn't ideal, as your cab should already be set up properly...

 

Well worth a watch for anyone who wants to get some route knowledge in, or comprehend the length of the route!

 

I can't really imagine them implementing "rolling starts" into the timetable, so i guess the best solution is having most services stop at Milton Keynes. You could still have the services to Birmingham, Glasgow or Edinburgh as AI only since their first stops are Coventry or Warrington Bank Quay, so you could still have some fast Pendos through Milton Keynes and Crewe.

For the services that do stop at Milton Keynes there'll definitely need to be the option to "continue service" on the other route if owned rather than having to run over to the route hop point. Same goes for Preston when JT's two WCML routes are linked together.

 

Given the proportion of players who will own both of these WCML routes, isn't the easy solution to allow to drive those services only if you started them at Euston ?

 

I'm really excited for this route and the thing is All aboard studiosnare choosing the the right routes that players want but I do feel like their lacking on with missing Northampton in the DLC

It's great that the route is coming with a 350/4 & a Class 807 but I'm grateful for the length of the route I just feel when all abroad studio's are choosing routes they are missing small vital elements that are part of the WCMLS. I don't want to be that guy but I really wish All aboard studios would reconsider Northampton as it'll increase demand for this route and provides non-linear play. I did moan about the Stoke-on-Trent section however I think these little branch lines such as the stoke on trent loop and Northampton loop are important because we don't not have the train terminus' -terminus' route. It be great if this could be merged/modded to travel onwards to London in future.

 

no point watching that. With the blurry textures that are sure to surface you wont be able to match it to the video

 

Define scam, please.

 

Don't forget about the services that don't stop anywhere too.

 

The Northampton loop will probably be done to cover the Rugby to Birmingham section of the route (730 anyone?)

 

it was already asked and answered on page 1 if you read the thread you would see the reply giving

 

Yet another route that will be a day one purchase for me.

 

Unless DTG sort the memory issues out by release, this will unfortunately be a no buy from me

 

Oh no. People are critical of something that's bad!

 

Can I clarify something?

Did I read the 390 doesn’t feature in this route?
I can’t believe I did, I may be misinterpreting something else.

 

Not bundled with I believe.

I don't get the argument that it can't be included because it was a loco dlc. DTG have included DLC locos with new routes before.

Class 465 with SEHS.
M3 Budd with Harlem Line.
Baby Bullet MP36 with San Bernandino (Albeit new livery).
DB BR 363 on multiple routes.

 

It’ll be because it’s not AAS’ train to do so with.

 

This is incredible, now we’ll be able to do a full London Euston to Crewe journey via route hopping. I hope the ECML starts getting some more sections added to it eventually.

 

It would really be nice if this route got merged w WCMLS tbh

 

Hope there’s some good AI layers for this route - e.g XC 170/220s at Tamworth High Level.

 

But if you own WCML(S) you will have timetables and scenarios for the Pendolino on this route right? Otherwise it makes no sense at all considering the route is full of them!

 

Surely it would be preferable to have a route for the XC 170s and 220 instead of something else on the WCML mostly involving Class 350s and 390s but with 2 station stops for XC services?

Obviously that's a little outside the remit for Train Sim West but I thought I'd mention it.

 

Indeed. I guarantee though that the 390 will appear in at least one sale with a chunky discount between now and this route being released.

 

Really looking forward to this one. I have been requesting this route for years. Good to see it includes the DIRFT which will open up some options for UK freight. Maybe I can dream of a class 88 loco pack one day....

 

You know things are desperate when people are getting excited about having the full compliment of sub-classes for a modern EMU. "Look! A slightly different seating configuration". High octane stuff.

 

Can I get confirmation please that the Birmingham to Crewe issues are still being looked at? Or is this going to be the case (I fear) of here’s a nice shiny new route so nobody cares anymore about the Birmingham Crewe issues?

Also, I presume this route runs Milton Keynes to Stafford? No reason to duplicate Stafford to Crewe is there? So how will this work with AI traffic that is non stop Milton Keynes to Crewe for example? One of the things we’ve seen time and time again with Birmingham Crewe is complaints about the emptiness of it, so we run the risk of the same issue with this route no?

 

To bad the WCML South route from London did not went all ways to Brum to link up with the BCC Also no Northampton Loop and St Alburns line and would be nice to have a Class 325 and DVT add on

 

I don’t know 350s in the wild as it were, other than from the passenger perspective, but I assume the cabs of all sub classes are identical and so really I don’t see the excitement for the 350/4 at all.

What might have made this more exciting is a 319/321/325 or a 70 for the freight. But it’s not as easy as that I realise. But really I don’t see why the 350/4 is even mentioned.

 

As mentioned elsewhere, it’s highly likely there will be some sort of Northampton to Birmingham add on at some point, which could potentially include Nuneaton to Coventry.

St Albans Abbey, whilst a pleasant enough line I don’t think it would have enough interest to warrant making really. 1 unit, 1 line, no signals. Perhaps it should have been included in WCML(s)?

 

Would be nice there a route from Birmingham to Derby to link up with MML

 

I have a feeling we may never see a Milton Keynes to New Street route or extension of WCMLS now with this announcement. Certainly not in the next twelve months as if another WCML route is announced the forum will go into melt down, not that I'd blame them.

 

It is slightly ticklish that we’re getting all excited nowadays about sub variants of the same trains, it kind of proves that we are being fed scraps doesn’t it?
However I welcome the chance to drive Pendo’s and the 800 series on a decent length of track. At least now the crime of selling a 390 for a short no stop sprint from Euston to MK will be avenged.

 

A Dusty Bin would have been great as, having travelled on these and experienced the AP one in TSC the 321’s were one of the last AC EMU types to retain a classic traction whine. Not dissimilar to the much loved 310’s and 312’s. AABS need to recognise the value of doing a Legends style retro pack for their routes, with a 310/312 or 321 and an agreement with JT to use the 86/87 and the Mark 2F and Mark 3 consists.

 

All I can say, is, if you're happy with having a similar situation to WCMLS where a just single 350/1 variant is covering every diagram, or BML where we only have a 377/4 covering all services and it doesn't bother you than fair play.

But for me, I am a railway enthusiast in real life and have an eye for detail in the sub class differences on multiple units and locomotives. I am happy that AAS have gone to the effort to simulate the various 350 sub class variants for us who appreciate such details and notice them. Would you be happier if the just repurposed the original 350/1 from WCMLS and said that's your lot? I think the majority of the community wouldn't want that.

Messages on the forum don't translate as well as I intend them too so don't take this the wrong way. But I feel with attitudes like the one your presenting you make it possible for developers to keep reusing the same old single sub class models where no effort goes into creating the real life variants. Would you have the same attitude if it was the different variation of HSTs? Or diesel locomotives? Genuine curiosity.

All I can say is if you certain of your opinion, fair play and I respect that. But I do feel it's not representative of the majority who appreciate the effort that goes into creating the variety of sub classes and all of their differences as a railway enthusiast and for the variety and accurate detail in the game.

To be honest, if they just threw in the original 350/1 for WCMLS I don't think you would have the same attitude, and you'd probably be moaning no effort had gone into the rolling stock on the route. But as I've already said above, if it doesn't bother you than fair play, but don't ruin it for other enthusiasts who actually notice and appreciate the variants of locomotives/multiple units in the game.

 

Totally agree... this route looks like a winner to me and my PC!

 

Merry Christmas Everyone & a Happy New Year !!!

I just love the look of this & the UK content has never been Stronger but why not the second part of WCML-S Milton Keynes to Birmingham New Street ?.

Still definitely on my hit along with Mead-way Explorer & Preston to Crew. Final a merry Christmas to all the DTG team & a happy new year to you all

 

I don’t think you understand how the WCML works. A large part of the 108 long mile route IS the Trent valley line from rugby to Stafford. You’re saying they should make the section from rugby to Birmingham as well as the Trent valley line, which is absolutely ridiculous to suggest. Their first route still needs lots of improvements and this route will undoubtedly release with some issues. Have you not learned from dtg releasing more content than they can afford to fix? If that’s what you want, then fine, I can’t change it, but for the sake of tsw we need less routes and more bug fixes for the time being. I recommend you reread the route announcement to find out what’s actually being made

 

At the very least they should make sure the headcodes remain consistent so we can find the service again ourselves.

 

Another WCML route? I never could've imagined that devs would make different sections of the same rail line so many times.

But my wallet will stay firmly shut for this. The performance issues on console for Birmingham-Crewe kept my wallet shut and the fact that this route will almost certainly be plagued with the same issues makes me have no interest in getting this

 

There’s two ways of looking at this. Yes, there were significant issues and a decent probability of them resurfacing to some extent. However, it can also be argued that AAS will have learned from what happened last time and will go the extra mile to prevent a repeat

 

The performance issues are more on DTG than AAS to be fair from what I've read but I am not interested in spending $40 on a route when the core is still a mess and there seemingly is no solution in sight for console players. It's just not worth it.

 

Agreed, the fault may not lie with AAS, but because of DTG, The likelihood of me buying it is slim to none unless the core issues are resolved.

If DTG want console players to continue buying their product they have to stop treating us as an afterthought.

 

I appreciate that. I’ll give that a watch. Thank you for posting.

 

I didn't say anywhere to add the section between Rugby and Birmingham to the Trent Valley route. I suggested (even though extensions are extremely rare) to extend West Coast Mainline South to Rugby. Which, if this had already been made, would've most likely seen Rugby as the starting point for the Trent Valley route, reducing the route length.

 

Tbf its not entirely DTG’s fault…the RAM in the Xbox - and I imagine the PS5 - has to be shared between the CPU and GPU and there’s just not enough of it in the current generation of consoles.

 

I'm overjoyed, I will finally take this right-hand bend at full speed.

 

I wonder if this route will get a full freight timetable? Of course not including Northampton misses out Daventry Freight Terminal and not to mention the lions share of freight runs via Northampton as being the “slow lines” so they will end up going off stage at Rugby or Hilmorton and whether or not they re-emerge at Roade is another questIon mark.

 

I wonder if the class 90 will layer on to this also