All Aboards Class 805 Discussion

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  1. trainsimuser

    trainsimuser Well-Known Member

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    They said it happened approaching Watford not euston. You are correct though Euston does have grids and higher than other termini stations first grid is set for 20mph or below 2nd grid 10mph below
     
  2. chris#2798

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    Am I missing something here…if you uncouple a 10 car unit, is there any way of closing the coupler hatch?
     
  3. adam asghar

    adam asghar Active Member

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    Yes, if you have a look at the back wall panel next to the cab door, you should find a button labelled ‘Hatch door close’
     
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  4. Southern Driver

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    So the Class 805 on WCML(S) scenario ‘9G25 Turnback at Watford’ makes no sense.

    Firstly the description doesn’t suggest you’ll only go to Watford but the title does. Odd.

    Secondly, on approach to platform 8 at Watford got a ‘SPAD Alert Contact Signaller’ in cab. Previous was 1 yellow and the intervention was before the station. My thinking is that this is due to (previously reported) WM1161 G.P.S which is only for trains going Down the Up Fast not those crossing from Down Fast to Down Slow. Also of note, the signal showed proceed.
     
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  5. ---DMY---

    ---DMY--- Well-Known Member

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    I had it too yesterday evening.
    Succeeded to make the train move by "resetting the simulation" in the menu.

    Regarding Euston buffers approach speed...

     
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  6. FredElliott

    FredElliott Well-Known Member

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    Ah yes, I should have gone to Specsavers
     
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  7. tardisgaming07

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    Can't wait for multiplayer with a single signaller in charge of Clapham Junction :)
     
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  8. trainsimuser

    trainsimuser Well-Known Member

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    lol easy mistake to mak
    Well if they do it like IRL it would be 2 panels.
     
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  9. macruz

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    I was initially apprehensive about the 805 but I am enjoying driving it. The audio is really nice on it, the cab is quite nicely detailed especially with the lighting and I quite like the feel of the suspension on it. Feels very alive when it reaches 125mph. I will say I feel like I’m barely getting any DSD alerts though so I’m not sure what other people think on this. The route overall feels a lot more alive and I hopefully don’t jinx myself, but not had any crashes on WCMLS though I have had one on B2C approaching Crewe so far. I think AAB have done a really good job on the train and a NWML route would complement it nicely. Also think AAB would do a good job with a revamp of the 801s on ECML and 802s to bring them into line with each other quality wise.
     
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  10. samuelpower2001

    samuelpower2001 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe because moving power handle within 1 minute interval window as sounds only if no input from driver at controls after 1 minute?
     
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  11. samuelpower2001

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    If keep moving power handle constantly it will not sound really until stop
     
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  12. gwrpat#3475

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    How are you supposed to know what and where these grids are and what trains they do and don’t apply to? When you’re coming into Euston you’re already sub 25 mph with plenty of time to stop with gentle braking.. even for a novice.. given that failing to stop will probably have you knocking over the toilet block.

    On the scenario, I read and understood it as I suggested.. however, because the train stopped short of the platform I never got to find out if that is what is really going on.
     
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  13. samuelpower2001

    samuelpower2001 Well-Known Member

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    Tpws grids? Before a signal and after. OSS grids are before a signal. Tss are after
     
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  14. dr1980

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    I hit the TPWS grid (I assume) entering the platform at Euston. I’ll be sure to keep it under 10mph next time, but this time there was a voice saying to contact the signaller because I had overspeeded. I tried contacting the signaller through the tab menu and clicking on the phone and couldn’t get it to do anything or get the train moving again.
     
  15. adam asghar

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    The “Contract the signaller’ message is just there to simulate the audible message the driver gets upon a TPWS trip (Contact the signaller to let them know what’s happened and what follows) in real life. In game, you don’t actually need to do anything apart from waiting 60 seconds to release the brakes.
     
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  16. trainsimuser

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    IRL you would contact the signaller though as you have a EB activation. The sim don’t go into that much realism though
     
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  17. Southern Driver

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    A TPWS against the stops would be reported once you’ve got to the stops. Anything else would be before you move the train.
     
  18. trainsimuser

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    Correct as per 6.2 which was updated not to long ago. But you MUST still call it in. What the rule doesn’t state clear is if it is the entry TPWS or the 2nd TPWS prior to the buffers so I would edge on side of caution IRL myself and I would call it in as it’s a brake demand has gone off for a reason.
     
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  19. NorthLondoner125

    NorthLondoner125 Well-Known Member

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    Right I'm considering purchasing the Class 805 for the upgraded WCML South timetable. Does anyone know if the new timetable is the full version or are there still missing services?
     
  20. trainsimuser

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    There is less freight iirc and it does not utilise the cargo line packs
     
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  21. OldVern

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    It seems fuller than the original. Leaving the 805 aside for now I’m currently driving the latter day equivalent of the old Master Cobbler, 1719 Euston to Northampton. Though back in the day, it was an AC electric hauling 12 Mark Ones and didn’t call at Watford Junction…
     
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  22. hecticjojo

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    The WCML South has 995~ services and the WCML B2C has 560~ services. I'm almost positive the only reduction was to freight services and the 86/87/47 railtours on B2C, which were removed due to "DLC mounting limitations" but otherwise it's the *as advertised* timetable, just not the "over 1K playable services".... Yet (the Trent Valley 807/350 will total those missing)
     
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  23. JLD95

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    Hi, I had a random pantograph failure during a timetable scenario: after stopping train, I pressed pan up: it's work but I haven't found how to restart the train even after removing/re-enabling the master key. It's a bug or I forgot something ?

    PS: brakes don't release - I have safety systems on bit I already turn off/on without success
     
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  24. trainsimuser

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    go to the TCMS screen on the right look at the pantograph setting press the soft key to select the car that had the panto drop you can press it and it will reset it
     
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  25. Southern Driver

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    Can’t interact with that screen if you are on Xbox
     
  26. trainsimuser

    trainsimuser Well-Known Member

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    really ?
     
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  27. Southern Driver

    Southern Driver Well-Known Member

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    You can view it up close but cannot interact with it.
     
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  28. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Was wondering what the next working of 1R25 is when it gets to Euston? Trying to follow the sets as I’ve done it from Crewe to Stafford, picked it up again at MKC, so figured after that run completes I will exit and pick up the next job at Euston. No point in staying in game as there could be a long wait and we still have the issue with saves after returning to free roam not loading properly.
     
  29. MP600

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    Assuming you mean the feature where it moves the view to be right in front of the screen. Turn it off in settings and navigate the screen the old fashioned way, that feature was broken on consoles the day it released and apparently never fixed
     
  30. Quentin

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    If you're playing a service with intermediate objectives, each objective triggers the 'next station' announcement. So I got "We will shortly be arriving at London Euston" about 10 miles out! (A very minor whinge about a great add-on, IMO.)
     
  31. OldVern

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    Quoting myself here but it’s 1D84 1000 Euston to Chester. Hopefully with a corresponding onward run from Stafford.

    And if anyone from AABS is reading this, I just turned off train faults as the level of occurrences with the 805 is farcical. Ever run, every station one or more stuck doors. That ain’t fun guys.
     
  32. Mark Moreton

    Mark Moreton Well-Known Member

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    iirc the Voyager at launch was having this issue when in double units it was doubling the faults, so possibly same thing is happening here?
     
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  33. adam asghar

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    I see what you’re saying here; I do think the train faults are quite overkill, especially for newer stock. Realistically, an engine/ power supply problem or failure happens probably once every 3 weeks on average on one unit
     
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