Nec: New York - Stamford

I suggest watch the roadmap and I think it was mentioned what the route comes with https://www.youtube.com/live/Ao-FIQwecqo?si=QC5x_Xa8qCkuKofs&t=1903

 

ah ok. i wonder if dtg will bring back the gp40-2 pack for that route.

 

Did we get any mention of total distance for this route? I missed the live stream.
The Acela needs to be able to stretch her legs.

This is probably not a day one purchase. Definitely a route I’ll pick up in the sale at some point, but it does look highly detailed and a lot of effort has gone into it. US fans will be happy.

 

NY-Penn Station/Grand Central Terminal to Stamford is approximately 34-36 track miles so that is definitely a plus, as the Harlem Line from GCT to North White Plains was just shy of 25 miles. The fastest the Acela will be able to operate is the stretch between Co-op City, after the bridge that occurs around Pelham Bay, as well as the stretch of track between New Rochelle and Mamaroneck.

 

For those asking about freight. There were additional screenshots in the stream.

 

This is going to be an epic route. I definitely can't wait to see Grand Central Terminal. I wonder if there are any updates to the existing stock, (M3A, M7A, ACS-64, and Acela)?

 

I feel like I ask this in every route related thread where the Acela plays a role, but is there ever any intention to fix the broken tractive effort in cruise control on the Acela that has been broken since launch day years ago?

 

I just watched the stream and Sand Patch Grade was not mentioned. It must stand to reason that the SD40 is included with this route because you would need it anyway to drive the trash car services, and clearly the trash cars are new with this route. It would certainly seem that HAR, LIRR2, and MNT would be required if we are getting these as AI/short playable services. And of course Acela. One question would be if any freight routes are needed for further layering. The UP boxcar in one of the pictures clearly did not come from SPG. The other big question I have is if the ACS64 is getting suspension, which of course could then be used on BPE and NYT.

The route is still looking rather sterile at this point and I suppose that's what we'll get. In reality a lot of this route is so dirty and cluttered with graffiti everywhere. But I could probably give that a pass if the timetable really sticks. Guess we'll find out in a week. The last great US passenger route?

 

I definitely am curious what is going to happen with future northeast passenger routes?

 

It's a great question but I would be shocked if anything besides the ACS64 gets suspension. The M3A, M7A, M7, M9 and Acela probably won't even appear if you don't have the right DLC installed. Incidentally I don't think they're giving any legacy add-ins such as the ACS64 or SD40 suspension either, and I only really expect it with the M8. But I wouldn't be completely surprised if the ACS64 does get suspension; it just seems like something that could have been mentioned already if it were happening. We'll see.

 

Apparently, the SD40 is from Sand Patch, just refitted to the standard specs from BNSF/TTC. Plus, the trash containers ain't as new since they were first made from NEC: NY, so expecting they'll just be up to date as well. As for the rest of the freight cars, not sure what's required, but expecting that it'll require a decent amount of dlcs to make that part of the route to be more lively at Oak Point.

 

I think with the trash cars now in the game the last real possibility is that we get the Hudson Line at some point with the long, long, long, long, long awaited P32. Even without Brandon I think there is enough institutional knowledge now to get this done, and the timetable is not really bonkers anyway especially north of Croton (assuming the line in TSW doesn't just stop at Croton anyway). Besides that most of the remaining branch lines of the MBTA, LIRR and NJT don't really seem to have enough to stand by themselves as DLC, and we know there are license issues elsewhere. So, I would say that hopefully Stamford is good because that might be it for awhile. But hey, Antelope Valley is a thing, so I suppose anything is possible.

 

MAX1319 Can you confirm if this very old and decrepit building that sits over the tracks is there? It wasn't in the TSW 2020 version and it's omission was very noticeable.

 

I definitely agree. DTG can definitely utilize what they have learned from Cactusjuice's signalling guides along with reference material that they have from past editions of routes for future routes

 

I know for sure, that derelict building is still there between Westchester Avenue and the Sheridan Expressway. That is the former Westchester avenue station, once part of the former New York, Westchester and Boston Railway. Alot of work has been done around the area over the years, modernizing the highway ramps for the Bruckner interchange and Sheridan expressway. Interestingly, that former station was featured in the Hudson Line and New Haven Line for TSC.

 

It’s also just north of the new Hunts Point station. I believe there were talks to renovate and update the original Westchester Avenue station(I believe it’s a historical landmark site for the city) due to the 6 train subway being right across the street, but Hunts Point location is a better intersection and still is next to the 6.

 

You know I can't give any details yet...... I will say this was my local area growing up in the Bronx. The amount of time I've spent on this route surpassed Morristown and LIRR2

 

I meant is it in TSW?

 

I thought anything which shipped with the route would have suspension. Seems a wasted opportunity if not.

I wish stock which layered into newer routes would get suspension too.

The LIRR2 stock was supposed to get suspension if I recall.

 

https://www.youtube.com/live/Ao-FIQwecqo?si=4udbppqIVvbj2MVr&t=1862 Matt mentioned yesterday about Stamford Freight here. Basically, bottom line good out of the box freight on Stamford, no other dlc's are required. part of optimization- means you don't need to depend on multiple packs to get the cars in. more information to follow when the article comes out

 

This is a known issue. It has been fixed on dev but it needs to get a slot for release. I will get confirmation if it will make it to post release update.

 

Watched the Amtrak cab ride that was posted on here earlier. I love it. Definitely one of the scenic NY routes. And it’s even more amazing we can depart from both NY Penn or Grand Central. Not just one which is really good.

 

It’s included

 

Will the SD40-2 receive safety systems or is there no work planned in this direction?

 

I hope they optimize well those M8's.
I have two flashbacks at once:
The first is from the TSC, when every M8 reduced fps by half.
The second is Hoboken, when we get 20 fps during daytime layover, while the empty station gives 70 fps.

 

I give DTG some flak but it's encouraging to me that they seem to be moving in the direction of incorporating more of the older content into the core package.

My personal opinion is everything pre-TSW3 should be "core-ified".

I know some long-term players will complain about paid content being devalued, but as someone who's purchased just about everything (and usually at full-price; yes i need help lol) i'm ok with it because frankly it will be really good for the game overall and future development of TSW.

Anything that will simplify the spaghetti code that is TSW and its myriad dependent DLC gets a thumbs up from me!

 

The coming soon article is out https://live.dovetailgames.com/live/train-sim-world/articles/article/nec-stamford-coming-soon

 

Did they fix Penn platforms? Why am I asking? I know the answer is no.

Will Sunnyside be the same clunky buggy mess as on Morristown?

Why are bridges without ballast is an unattainable technology for DTG?

 

But the overhead wires on the bridge are attached in a completely different way than in real life. They're specifically designed to allow crossing without lowering the pantograph. Or is this an old screenshot?

 

Ballast on bridge by DTG
https://media-cdn.dovetailgames.com/2026/032026/03/StamfordOverview_M8ParkAve.jpg

Bridge IRL

 

What routes do I need for layering into it.

 

Confused by your comment. You acknowledge the bridge and OLE is designed to allow the pantograph to cross without lowering and provide evidence, but you still question the in-game screenshot showing the same design?

 

You mean driveble layers?
I think it's Harlem route and Acela addon. The rest(like LIRR and Morristown) will be AI only or depot movement.

I think he pointed that Acela pantograph at the same height as the wire. This is not prototypical and it's dangerous.

Yes, from this screenshot it is impossible to say on which track is Acela, but the wire doesn't look high enough anyway.

 

Look carefully at where and how the wires are attached in the screenshot and And how they are attached in real life. When a train's pantograph passes under a beam in real life, its pantograph no longer touches the wires; they extend significantly higher.

 

Please watch the video, you will understand everything.

 

It seems like the game doesn't have an animation for a fully raised pantograph. No matter how high you position the overhead contact line, the pantograph will be pressed against the virtual wire.

 

The omission of the New Canaan branch baffles me, it's already a pretty short route cutting it off at Stamford.

 

I wonder if that bridge will lift ??. Like the Bremen - Olderberg Bridge. The article doesn’t mention it. Just mentions the pantograph wires.

 

Hope the New Canaan branch comes as an extension sad it was excluded

 

Looks like DTG screwed up the numbering on the SD40-2's for Stamford

We see #7056 and #7244 in this shot....


But CSX's SD40-2's are normaly in the 8000's range. You can see that CSX uses the 7000's range for CM44's and Dash 8's, not SD40-2s. How the hell did they pull those numbers? It cant even be from retro rosters, as even back then CSX's SD40s were in the 8000s range.

 

Yup the fix for this was actually submitted earlier today. Thank you for your feedback

 

Glad to see it was noted already, its just odd how that even happened....

 

Am really excited for this route as I travelled on this a few times in real life. But are we getting a third duplicate of the ACS-64 and Amfleet coaches? It will be nice to have Phase 7 Amfleet coaches to finally have something fresh for Amtrak.

 

Kinda feeling the same way about the Oak Point Link, feels like a strange omission

 

This was an amazing article for the NEC: New York - Stamford route. I was riding an M8 Hudson Line train to Marble Hill last week and was thinking about how much fun this route is going to be when it releases, especially operating the M8 in TSW. I can confirm the stone masonry portion of the park avenue viaduct from the screenshot is correct (approximately around 104th street - 105th street based on the screenshot as the relay box in the screenshot is around CP3. The trestle begins approximately at 112th street along the Park avenue viaduct. I am so excited there will be so many services, both playable and AI across Metro North, Amtrak, NJT, Amtrak and CSX. 5 railroads in one New York route is amazing I will say. It's really cool to see that we have the updated condominiums in the South Bronx and both levels of Grand Central Terminal featured as well. Based on the article and what we have seen already, this is definitely a day one purchase for me

 

Yup. I’ve spent a ton of time putting in all these in the reports to make sure it was improved from Harlem. IMO is a big improvement from Harlem line and you will see the difference. I’m originally from the Bronx so I wanted the area well represented. I really hope the community enjoys it as much as I have

 

It looks fantastic cant wait purchase it.

 

Awesome work and dedication to the route and definitely a big upgrade from Harlem That is cool, I am from the Bronx as well. It will be awesome to operate these services through the urban and suburban neighborhoods of NYC and Connecticut

 

Sounds like you’ve done a really good job. I can’t wait to see the preview stream for this route.

 

Welp, it appears that someone on the dev team caught wind of my worries regarding the development of this route. Just got done reading the NEC Stamford article, the route looks very interesting based off the images and the details regarding the services, and I'm glad to see that we are getting suspension improvements for the ACS-64, as well as guard mode for the Amtrak services (minus the Acela, which I hope will receive both suspension and guard mode sometime before or after the route gets released).

However, now that it appears that they are sticking the landing with the freight services on this route, I'm really hoping that we will see the CSX GP40-2 from TSW2020 re-release as locomotive DLC sometime in the future, as I feel that it was a complete missed opportunity to utilize that engine for freight services on Stamford instead of re-hashing the SD40-2.

I'm also open to seeing the Amtrak SW1000R again, even if placing the locomotive in the Stamford route wouldn't really make any sense in terms of the timeframe that the route is set in, it would at least be great to see another switcher in TSW again since we currently only have the (now unbranded) Caltrain variant.