West Coast Main Line: Trent Valley From All Aboard Studios

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  1. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    There you go im xbox and nothing but blurriness and ctd. I really wish it was better I could easily play that route all day.
     
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  2. smugstarlord#4202

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    Wow. That flew over your head. For those of us who have been with TSW from the early days, TVL has always been short code for Tees Vally
     
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  3. joffonon

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    Well I did wonder, but your post wasn't clear as to whether you were making a point about identical acronyms, or just confused.;)
     
  4. foggy#2817

    foggy#2817 Well-Known Member

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    On PS5 there is blurriness on the section between Birmingham and Stafford. No issues on the 'fast' stretch towards Crewe. I just hope they apply lessons learned regarding textures to the problematic sections. And of course apply said knowledge to Trent Valley from the start.
     
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  5. theorganist

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    I was adding some balance as some of the responses might give the impression the route is awful.

    I do sympathise with console users. I would probably have given up on TSW long ago if that was happening to me.
     
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  6. foggy#2817

    foggy#2817 Well-Known Member

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    And rightfully so. Other than the blurriness, the route looks great and has very good gameplay.
     
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  7. Kezz

    Kezz Well-Known Member

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    Patch for our existing products is on the way, we are working very hard with DTG right now to make sure our optimisations is putting performance in a much better place
     
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  8. historicalduck7

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    glad to hear the route hasn’t been abandoned. is this an update we’re likely to see in the next few weeks or is it a matter of months away?
     
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  9. Kezz

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    Can't confirm exact date but hopefully quite soon
     
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  10. redrev1917

    redrev1917 Well-Known Member

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    Have you been able to fix the door closing early issue whereby making the route entirely unprototypical and out of step with every other DLC? It was really frustrating having to relearn having to wait until the departure time before you could close doors and negates any enjoyment I got out of the route to the extent it’s unlikely that I’ll purchase anything further dlc that is affected by the same issue
     
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  11. historicalduck7

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    sounds like this’ll be coming out within the next month, hopefully blurry textures will be avoided this time round but who knows
     
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  12. redrev1917

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    Given this is the longest UK route to date and the given that the devs struggled with optimisation on B2C and to date haven’t been able to get any improvement out, I wouldn’t hold your breath. Maybe on PC we will have a good experience and perhaps they will prove me wrong on console, but if they do then the question why they haven’t fixed their first route yet has to be asked IMO.
     
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  13. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Im on xbox and I have feeling this will worse than b2c. But love to be proved wrong.
     
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  14. OldVern

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    Despite my urge to buy this Day One (modern era notwithstanding), definitely going to apply caveat emptor and wait for the initial reports and feedback to come in.
     
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  15. historicalduck7

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    i’ve got more optimism than if this would’ve been released in february/march because even the busy content recently has avoided bluriness, i haven’t encountered them once on NY-stamford despite all the layers and dense scenery. plus im hoping AABS have learnt from b2c where textures can be optimised. there’s also less stations and they’re more evenly spread out
     
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  16. Kezz

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    As mentioned previously, update for B2C is in testing, the patch focuses on the performance front a lot and we have seen some very good results during testing, we will hopefully be able to deliver the patch very soon, for now keep an eye on comms from DTG regarding patches to our existing content
     
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  17. dal#7945

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    We will see that patch sometime next year with the way things are going.
     
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  18. Southern Driver

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    Guarantee they’ve not sorted the missing AWS magnets south of Crewe.
     
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    Only available with TSW7 super super deluxe… :p
     
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    Class 90 services with the patch would've been nice
     
  22. Trainmania100

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    Is this DLC out yet?
     
  23. jesper2805

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    No its not!!

    But it will come very soon. The steam store page is live so that will mean it will not take very long.
    What i can see on the store page it looks really good.

    Some pictures from the steam store:
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  24. eMAyTeeTee

    eMAyTeeTee Well-Known Member

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    Based on Birmingham to Crewe if you're on console it'll probably look like that for about 4 seconds
     
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  25. pedro#1852

    pedro#1852 Well-Known Member

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    I thought we would see the GP60M before trent valley because the roadmap said we would have information about a release date for the GP60M "very soon" and that about trent valley we would have information about a release date "later this month"
     
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  26. jesper2805

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    They told the same in the roadmap stream for Trent Valley. DTG Soon you will never know when xD
     
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  27. pedro#1852

    pedro#1852 Well-Known Member

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    haha, that's true
     
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  28. jesper2805

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    They have new building skills for new routes, a full blast of information in the roadmap stream and Matt had explained that this will bring a huge performance boost. I have no clue for this route but fingers crossed it will fixed the issues that you experienced on consoles on the Birmingham Crew addon.
    The point are a list of things third party can do to prevent such problems.
     
  29. eMAyTeeTee

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    I hope you're right
     
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  30. jesper2805

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    I hope the same! Its a long route and not only pc players should have a good experience. But my advice... Do not buy direct after release. Wait a few hours. Or you should be sure you can do a refund.
     
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  31. adam asghar

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    Hopefully an article is out tomorrow then :)
     
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  32. mldaureol2

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    Will be expecting an article this week.
     
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  33. kieran#9718

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    Screenshots look great. Perhaps a Thursday release this week?

    Despite the number of issues on BNS - Crewe route on Xbox I still find myself playing on that route more often than not so I’m looking forward to this being released.
     
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  34. jesper2805

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    I'm a bit surprised by the way they’ve already put this addon on the Steam store, so a release this week wouldn’t be a surprise to me anymore. Since the existence of TSW, I’ve never seen the store page go live before an announcement, so yes, it’s quite possible we’ll see a release on Thursday.
     
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  35. otisdepotis

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    I’m on ps5 and I never have blurry textures on B2C even when I have a good amount of layers enabled, the only issues I experience now and then are frame rate drops and stutters.
     
  36. ben#1349

    ben#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Could anyone tell me on average how many 807s are driveable per hour on this route. I know there are way more Pendolinos but just to get some perspective.
     
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  37. arcsin

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    From what I can see on Realtime Trains I think there's only one per hour during the daytime. It's a Euston to Liverpool service and it's non-stop between Milton-Keynes and Crewe.
     
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  38. Mark Moreton

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    Hoping the Polesworth parliamentary service will be playable on this.
     
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  39. ben#1349

    ben#1349 Well-Known Member

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    not amazing for people who don't own the 390. Though I'd say most UK players own it.
     
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  40. simontreanor81

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    And it may well be discounted when this releases
     
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    In any case, you can be sure there will be more passengers on the platform at Polesworth than at Euston... :D

    Anyway, can't wait for it, we'll finally get some real mainline driving with the Pendolino stretching its legs ! :love:

    And please DTG, do something with the route hopping feature, so that we won't have to leave the cab at MKC coming from Euston... :o
     
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  42. historicalduck7

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    the route description and a few screenshots for anyone interested. presumably the full article will be more detailed than this, but it’s a good informative piece
    Run up the racetrack of England’s midland region and accelerate round the curves of the scenic Trent Valley in All Aboard Studios’ next route in Train Sim World. Embark on the thrilling 108-mile journey between Milton Keynes & Crewe, in Avanti West Coast Evero & Class 350 expresses, along one of the most high-octane sections of the West Coast Main Line.

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    The West Coast Main Line was built by many smaller companies during the birth of the railway era, but plans to bypass Birmingham via the Trent Valley Line materialised with that section’s opening in 1847. This line provided a more direct route for both passenger and goods trains from London to the north of England through Rugby, Lichfield and Stafford.

    Electrification in the 1960s saw the introduction of high-speed trains along the WCML, and following major modernisation works in the early 2000s, allowed for servces to tilt their way along at full chat; 125mph.

    Explore Train Sim World’s longest point-to-point UK route to date as you traverse a total of 108 statute miles between Milton Keynes and Crewe, while aboard some of the most modern trains on Britain’s network, including the Avanti West Coast BR Class 807 ‘Evero’.

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    The BR Class 807 is part of the AT300 family - which since 2017 - has been established as the mainstay traction for long-distance services between England, Wales and Scotland. Avanti West Coast’s ‘Evero’ is the latest innovation of the fleet, featuring a familiar shell, but with a much more ergonomic interior, refined cab, optimised kitchen space, and comfortable first class section, with the rest of the train prioritising a much-welcomed capacity upgrade on the WCML. The Class 807, unlike its counterpart - the Class 805, is a 7-car, electric-only addition to the fleet.

    Supporting alongside is the Class 350/4. With the 4th and final subclass joining the ranks, call at all local stations in both Warwickshire and Staffordshire before joining additional traffic at Stafford. Then open the throttle and race to historic Crewe.

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    With layers (each available separately) unleash the power of the Pendolino by enjoying the 108-mile stretch at uninterrupted full-tilt speeds, get more traffic with the Avanti West Coast BR Class 805 ‘Evero’ and other Class 350 subclasses from other WCML routes. Route hop to London - Milton Keynes for the ultimate Capital to Cheshire journey.
     
  43. jesper2805

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    It is at the moment on Steam... 7,19€
     
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  44. historicalduck7

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    will the 807 be able to hit 125 on tvl? i know there’s been some recent work on the wcml regarding eps limits but unsure whether this affects anything apart from the 390
     
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    100%. "TSW TVL" & "TSW WCTV" IMHO's OK.
     
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  46. joffonon

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    And now Thames Valley Branches to add to the 'TV' acronym soup.:)
     
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    If we're talking about the issue where you have to wait at the platform and then open and close the doors just before departure, I seem to remember one of the devs saying this was deliberate in order to "force" the departure times.

    I may be mixing it up with another route though so don't take my word for it, but if it's the case then it's very unlikely they'll "fix" it as it would presumably mean having to go through all of the scenarios to change it...

    JB
     
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    You are correct. It was B2C which incorporated the different despatch procedure.
     
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    It’s goes against virtually every other route in the game (although thinking about it Im not entirely sure Rapid Transit isn’t similar, but I’ve not played that for eons). If it was by design then in my opinion it’s a bad design choice as for the UK railways it is totally unrealistic and ruins immersion for me.

    I really hope this isn’t copied over to their next route regardless of it remains on B2C
     
  50. smugstarlord#4202

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    Wouldn't that be "TVB" Thames Valley Branches
     

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