Blurryness

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  1. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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  2. antony.henley

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    GWE Remastered PS5 (blurry textures started appearing on the 166 after the update in mid June)
    Trent Valley PS5
    Birmingham Crewe PS5
    Preston Crewe PS5
    Peterborough - Doncaster PS5
    North London Line (what ever its called) Windrush? PS5

    Will need to run some more routes and take notes as I see them (Soz)

    Tony
     
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    Birmingham Crewe mainly on xbox the 350 is worse for blurry textures
     
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    Preston to Crewe and Preston to Carlisle can be an issue (PC Steam) with AI trains in particular appearing blurred or smudged regardless of resolution, even down to 1080p.
     
  5. Mark Moreton

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    Put this in the Xbox specific thread the other day, but here’s what I’ve found on Series X in terms of UK content (with virtually all content installed):

    Cardiff city network (pacer timetable)
    Crewe - Preston
    ECML (full timetable)
    Edinburgh Glasgow (158 timetable)
    Fife Circle (158 timetable)
    Great Western Express
    Mildmay Line
    Manchester Airport
    Riviera (infrequent but happens for me in stormy conditions)
    WCML South (805 timetable)
    WCML Birmingham-Crewe
    WCML Trent Valley (full timetable)
     
  6. JAY28

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    Preston - Crewe PS5.

    Having experienced limited ‘blurry’ texture issues on previous routes, this is noticeably on another level.
     
  7. Trainiac

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    PS5
    WCML: Preston - Crewe
    WCML: Crewe - Milton Keynes (full TT)
    WXML: Crewe - Birmingham (Modern full TT)
    WCML: Milton Keynes - London (Evero TT)
    Bahnstrecke Dresden - Leipzig (Expert TT)
    Köln - Aachen (Revamp TT)
    Cardiff City Network (2019 TT)
    Frankfurt - Fulda
    GWE: Remastered
    Mildmay Line
    Fire Circle (158 TT)
     
  8. Bradley

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    Preston Crewe
    Trent valley
    Birmingham to Crewe
    North London line
    Dresden Leipzig
    Ecml
    WCMLs
    Riveria
    Manchester airport
    Edingbugh Glasgow
    Fife circle

    all on ps5
     
  9. LWDAdnane

    LWDAdnane Well-Known Member

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    Might be a big one Matt but perhaps a poll would give a cleaner set of results?
     
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  10. Clumsy Pacer

    Clumsy Pacer Well-Known Member

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    Is that not motion blur having a moment?
     
  11. simontreanor81

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    PS5

    GWE Remastered
    Stuttgart to Heilbronn
    Koeln - Aachen Remastered
    Windrush
     
  12. OldVern

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    No, it’s the exterior of the stock even when all trains are stationary. A bit like the artefact we sometimes got on the HST’s way back on the OG GWE.
     
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    On PS5 -

    Mildmay Line and Crewe-Preston are the only UK routes where I have seen significant blurring with some blurring now on the other JT routes.

    Occasional blurring on Manchester Airport, WCML South and GWE remastered.

    That brings me to all the DTG modern German routes - the more trains that can appear on the route through layers and substitution, the more blurry it can be but they all go blurry - they were the first routes where trains started becoming blurry (several years ago now) due to them having the most variety in trains. I don’t know how you could prioritise these other than optimising every train and then work backwards through the route releases for route optimisation.
     
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    Koln - Aachen with revamped timetable. GWE as soon as the Class 350 layer becomes active, with only the Class 484 and freight from SEHS no blurry textures. I'm playing on Xbox Series S in HD mode.
     
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    Xbox SX

    Mildmay Line
    GWE Remaster
    Riviera
    Birmingham - Crewe
    WCML Euston - MK
    ECML
     
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    Xbox Series X

    Riviera line
    GWE Remaster
    WCML Euston - MK - Only happens when near Euston
    Manchester Airport Commuter
    Birmingham Cross City - 170 timetable
    Mildmay line
     
  17. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    A Poll isn't a bad shout... let me see what I can sort, not sure you can have that many options on the forum software - i'll come back... :)

    Matt.
     
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  18. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Could you not do four threads each with a poll . A german poll, A UK poll, A US poll and a other poll. Something like that.
     
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    ben#1349 Well-Known Member

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    I experience very little Blurry Textures but here are some I've noticed:

    Mildmay Line - Almost every run
    WCMLS - 710 - Evero timetable
    Scotrail 158 - FCL
     
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    PS5
    Riviera Line
     
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    Ps5

    Gwe express
    Birmingham Crewe
    Trent valley
    Riviera route.
    GBR pack virtually any service on any route it runs on the train exterior starts blurring within 5-10 mins of starting service. Luckily as I drive mostly in what could be called nose cam mode I don’t see it thankfully (timetable services with GBR selected as train to run)

    plus as an aside any route with class 80x variant they seem to blur more than other locos on the route.
     
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  22. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    Ok just setting up polls now - hang fire a moment :)
     
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    Is it worth pinning this post so it’s at top of the forum and doesn’t get lost further down when other feed get updates?
     
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    Crewe-Preston
    Midland Mainline
    Birmingham-Crewe
    Preston-Carlisle
    Riviera line
    GWR remastered
    Blackpool Branches

    All on PS5
     
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    Just a note, I have PS5 and have noticed that if you change the setting to HD, no substitutions and disabled creation club liveries. It does help slightly not completely reduce the blurry textures. Also if it the blurriness comes in it usually sorts it's self out after a while or gives just minimal blurred textures
     
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    xbox series x:
    frankfurt fulda
    wcmls
    birmingham crewe
    trent valley
    cardiff (pacer timetable)
    gwe remaster
    riviera
    mildmay
    mac
     
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    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    Switching to HD drops it from 4k to 1080p, which has a really positive reduction on the amount of video memory being used, leaving more for other things, so that's what i'd expect you to see in this case.

    Regardless, it should still work well in 4K of course! :)

    Matt.
     
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  29. lexie

    lexie Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the poll, I only have one issue to fill it in. You need to give an answer on every question and I don't play US routes. An option to leave a question blanc whould be handy.
     
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    External poll was great, much easier than listing them off.

    Just FYI there are some options on there which only suffer the texture issue IF you use an alternate timetable, such as Cardiff City is fine unless you’re on the 142 TT. I know there are others too such as WCMLS.
     
  31. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    I've added "None" options to the lists if you can confirm you can see that ok, no idea if this will let you update a form once it's live :)

    Matt.
     
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  32. malikrthr

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    So far, I have observed blurry textures on the below routes

    WCMLS (Milton Keynes to London Euston)
    Harlem Line
    Peninsula Corridor
    New York to Trenton
    Boston Sprinter
     
  33. bakedpotatos.jm

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    On Series X, 122 addons installed.

    Stuttgart,
    Mannheim
    Frankfurt to Fulda
    Liepzig Dresden
    Dresden Reisa
    SKA. Revamped TT only.
    Salzburg Rosenheim
    WCMLS
    WCML Trent Valley
    Birmingham to Crewe
    Birmingham Cross City (170 TT only)
    Cathcart Circle (380 TT only)
    SEHS
    Manchester Airport Commuter
    ECML.
    GWE Remastered TT only
    NEC Stamford
     
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  34. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    Can you drop them on the form please? thank you!
     
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    lexie Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, yes I was able to complete the form now.
     
  36. LWDAdnane

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    Not intending to continually backseat, but perhaps worth locking the thread with the last comment in it being the link to the form? It's easy to skip at the moment for people who just read the OP and reply straight away.

    Though again it takes away from people who want to add extra detail.
     
  37. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    Happy for people to add to the thread with any other insights and feedback to be honest, dont want to shut down conversation on the topic. Seem to have many going in to the form now so starting to collect some good data. Thanks all - keep it up!
     
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    PS5 blurred routes

    Crewe to Preston
    Preston to Carlisle
    WCML Birmingham to Crewe
    WCML Trent valley
    Manchester Airport line
    Wcml south

    Wcml Preston to Carlsie is worst one at the moment on the ps5
     
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    I haven't seen Cathcart mentioned so here it is.
    But come on, we've already spent goodness knows how much time cataloguing the problem.
    RTFF!
    :|
     
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    Matt, would love your thoughts on following as one hell of coincidence

    Please see the British Ace WCML Trent Valley on Xbox video

    At 20.45 you see an AI train on bridge ahead.
    21.14 blurry textures hit

    25.10 textures come back
    Few seconds later AI train comes into view
    25.34 textures gone

    26.43 textures back
    Few seconds later - AI train
    27.09 textures gone

    29.07 textures back
    Few seconds - AI train (does struggle to keep textures)
    29.34 textures gone

    31.41 textures back
    AI train in view (struggles again)
    32.34 gone

    34.29 textures back
    AI train
    34.52 gone

    35.32 textures back
    AI train
    35.57 gone

    36.15 textures back
    AI train (struggles again)
    36.57 gone

    39.40 textures back
    AI train (but struggles)
    40.24 gone

    41.50 textures back
    AI train
    42.12 gone

    After this it becomes hit and miss to the point its pretty much gone for good

    I have noticed something similar on Riviera Line where the textures failed half way through the journey. Went into freeroam at Paignton, walked up to Torquay and after a while a 150 pulled in with textures all back. Train set off for Paignton and the textures went with it.

    Also now seen on GWE remaster as with Trent Valley

    Seems the textures for a time load back in when an AI train appears, and they go blurry again shortly after the train unloads
     
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    Xbox Series X…Crewe to Preston…when travelling at speed, AI fast traffic travelling in the opposite direction are noticeably blurred.
     
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    This is on the Xbox series X
    wow the only US route that I was aware that had experience blurry textures was Stamford and I only experience it when I'm driving either Acela and ACS64. It seems to come a go depending on when any M8 passing. I haven't experience while driving the M8. Curious to know which platform are you having these blurry on malikrthr ?
     
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    Hello, I play on PS5 Pro and even though we tried several times to switch TSW General settings from 4K to HD, I did not notice any improvement in terms of blurring.......actually I would have expected some improvement but it is not happening for me........

    I agree that turning off substitutions helps, logically, but in maps from Just Train etc. it is a bit of a problem when the traffic, especially on Preston - Carlisle is directly based on Substitutions
     
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    I second this on Xbox Series X. No difference switching to HD I get blurryness at the exact same points.
     
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    I see that quite a lot where the emergence of AI train temporarily fixes it
     
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    I can’t remember any issues with blurry textures on Preston -
    To Carlisle, Blackpool branches and Great Western Express Remastered recently but since the updates I have had blurry textures on GWE and Preston to Crewe which I bought as all these updates dropped.
     
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    Preston-Carlisle has had some blurring issues for me
     
  48. trainsimplayer

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    There's an upper limit of 25 (which is exceeded by the number of the UK routes, and if memory serves German/EUR also.), although I do suppose Matt could easily exclude a number of low-layer routes (i.e. IOW/22, WCL, etc.)
     
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    Also to be more useful - Cathcart (380) timetable can be really bad (XSX) when the 390 / FS / 801 are loaded in.
     
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