Tadami Line Screenshots

It's hardly a scam as you can see what you are getting. Some just like to use buzz words like that in the wrong context.

 

Maybe because the Beta Team was disbanded after the WCMLs leaks and DTG have been relying on "Ambassadors" and "PlayTester Sessions" to fill the void. Jan even said on the LiveStream that there was a playtest back in December 2025 of Tadami.

 

Maybe that's it then. I would have thought someone would have noticed.

I find it is the one thing stopping me driving older stock as the lack of suspension is very noticeable.

Personally I think they should strive to retrofit it to older trains. Someone in the community managed to.

 

Bring back the Preservation Crew!

 

Well that would be good but I suspect that ship has long sailed.

 

Hope they do a Tokyo route one day would been great to see

 

Given it’s taken them four years to do a relatively simple rural route, I wouldn’t hold your breath! And their Tokyo route in TSC had (has) massive performance issues in places, down to a stuttering crawl at some of the more built up and busiest locations. The grail for me would be something like the Yamanote Line or New Tokkaido, but sadly I just don’t think UW would be up to that challenge.

 

Thanks for clearing that up Jan. It's good to get some insight. Appreciate it.

 

It’s funny because I’ve found myself getting more and more into Bus Sims these days and much less TSW. Fernbus isn’t the greatest of bus sims but the New England expansion DLC looks pretty decent. And then there’s also the upcoming London DLC for “the bus” too. Haven’t even downloaded the free starter pack for TSW this year neither…. I’ll just buy these routes on a good sale. No rush waiting for sales neither. Happens when it happens.

 

I'm about to check the preview stream, I just wanted to see what people were thinking here first, if it would even be worth my time to check.
All of this doesn't sound too good... NO SUSPENSION IN A TSW7 ROUTE RELEASE is diabolical. That is hilarious. There's just no standards for what gets released.

Personally I can't even drive trains that lack suspension anymore... Not entirely relevant to the thread but I wish someone would add it to the 710.

 

Me too. It's one of many.

 

I mean it’s £30, but still very poor quality for the price

 

Yes that was based on what people were saying before the price confirmed, but still not worth it.

 

train simulator classic tadami line looks far better in comparision to this train sim world version
i am sorry i am not going to put my money into it

 

Not seen the stream yet but were there any positives?

 

A new country

 

I really hope the UW guys add suspension for the kiha (obviously, I know that if it happens, it will be post-release)

 

So the delay was for nothing?

Very disappointing. I wanted to get this but just not up to standards

 

I don't think performance will be such a big issue this time around because it's a single track route with not a great deal going on to drag down the framerates. What might be an issue though is the way in which trees constantly shape-shift on X|S. Tadami has an awful lot of them and things might get a bit ugly in denser areas.....especially on a sunny day in winter.
I'd have hoped by now that we'd have been given the option to completely disable lighting & shadow effects because they've never looked particularly great on consoles (those short draw distances and flickering shadows look really poor) and not having them should also improve both looks and performance.

 

There were positives, but as is often the case, the negatives, of which there are a few are the only things talked about.

It isn't a bad looking route by any stretch of the imagination.

 

Ok, sales-candidate for me so far. I'll save the money for the Neckartalbahn.

 

Sorry, but what was the genuinely positive aspect, other than the fact that it’s a new country?

The design—aside perhaps from the masses of identical trees (well...)—is lackluster, as is the implementation of the vehicle (except for the spinning fans).

I’d like to say it wasn't that bad, but all in all, it is truly disappointing—especially given the long development time.

That may sound harsh, but I would say the same thing if it were great.

Everything has become too expensive these days for me to pay full price for a pretty mediocre DLC.

Especially compared to the three good new core tracks.

 

I thought the route on the whole looked nicely made and looked interesting in the most part. The stations were nicely detailed. Just my opinion.

For me the negative points mean I won't be buying it certainly not at full price but I don't think it's a compete write off.

 

Really, the only thing that’s missing (that wasn’t a new feature long after this route was scoped out) is the suspension. Announcements and conductor mode were added to TSW quite late on in this route’s history. The goalposts moving like this during development won’t have resulted in those features being added as they change the scope of the route considerably for the amount of work that needs doing. The route style itself was set out in the screenshots posted in May 2024 (well received by many at the time) and the route looks like that now, It wasn’t going to change. The fact that it’s taken a small team so long to make the whole thing means it looks dated. Not all developers have that ultra-detailed look that a few of the third party developers have introduced during the time of the development of Tadami.

The train does have average sounds (like many TSW trains do) and the detail isn’t as high for the train and route as some of the other third parties manage but it looked well made and pretty. It’s obviously not a TSW7 route, the release date was for TSW6 and only performance issues delayed it, but it will have been like so many third party routes a year or so out of date for features anyway. It’s worse for UW because they are such slow developers. There’s very little understanding about that in the response. When they decided to make this route, there was no conductor mode or announcements in TSW. I don’t think suspension was a thing either but that’s quite a big one they perhaps could have incorporated. They aren’t slow because they are adding loads of detail, they are slow because there’s not many of them doing it and they’ve made everything from scratch as they go.

Some people seem to think this should look like the best of the best because of the time it’s taken but the time it’s taken is precisely the reason it looks and feels dated. The new lighting adding in the darker shadows didn’t help how it looked in the stream either (and takes TSW back to the inky blackness on the ground at certain times of the day, an issue last seen in TSW2 routes). UW can’t be blamed for that.

I think expectation and time has led to the response to what is essentially a TSW4 or 5 era route that is slightly above average quality for that time. It’s not the huge disaster it’s being made out to be. It’s just taken a long time to come and looks exactly like it would have if a bigger team had finished it in a year and it came out during TSW5. Some, not all, of TSW has moved on a bit which is a big shame for UW.

Now all that really stands in its way is performance in the real world, which may turn out to be an issue still but we’ll see. I won’t be buying it because I don’t have TSW7 yet and I can only afford to buy in sales these days but I quite liked the route I saw in the live stream. Hopefully they can add in suspension but I won’t hold my breath. Blimey, even TSG’s expert range can’t manage that.

 

I agree that people tend to focus more on the negatives, but the inescapable fact is that - with the exception of general bugs and glitches - there shouldn't be any level of negativity whatsoever in a route that's had more than enough time to ensure a smooth launch. Not only that but every single version of TSW is advertised with unique core features (in order to distinguish it from previous games and give the franchise an overall sense of progression), so it should be a given that said features are included in all addons because after all, they were advertised as being there!
If they're not present or it becomes a lottery as to whether or not they ever will be then people are more than justified to put a greater degree of emphasis on that fact because in their eyes, pretty trees and impressive looking bridges are far less important than [missing] features that offer a greater sense of realism to what they're playing.

Above everything else though, if you ignore/overlook those negatives and simply accept the fact that TSW will never be perfect then it never will be perfect!

 

after watching and re-watching the entire stream three times, here is my honest analysis:
visually and in terms of textures, the route looks really good, and the cab textures are nice
for me, the biggest downsides are the lack of suspension and the bizarre engine sounds... I admit I was expecting a diesel engine growl, not the sound of a clunker
even so, I’m going to buy it because, for me, it’s a milestone for TSW and I’ve been eagerly awaiting it (and for so long) though I do hope the sounds get improved and the suspension gets added

 

I never said negatives should be overlooked. I have myself posted about four times about the negatives and why I won't buy it.

But there is such a thing as balance. Someone reading some of these posts might come to the conclusion that the route is awful and a disaster. It isn't. Some people won't be bothered by the lack of suspension or the sounds. Some will put pretty trees and impressive bridges as a priority over suspension.

Personally however, I feel if you are going to mention the bad points then you should mention the good points, if you feel there are any.

One or two who jumped in feet first hadn't even watched the stream at the time!

 

I'm sympathetic to the devs as it's their first project for TSW, but they seem to have massively overshot their intended release date, and failed to use the extra time to ensure Tadami meets the standards of TSW when it releases.

Sorry, but imo no announcements and especially no suspension for a TSW7 train is just not good enough.

If there's a post-launch patch adding these things, I'm very willing to reconsider.

 

Regarding the breaking on the units, is this the same as the San Jose line f40ph where if you leave the break handle on the brakes keep applying harder