Train Sim World 2 - Luzern - Sursee Coming March 24th

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  1. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Here is a Rivet Games video of the ETCS system on Luzern Sursee route there's the STM for ZUB 123 Integra Sigum
     
  2. bakedpotatos.jm

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    It's price is cheaper than a full route at £19.99 before the pre-order discount. Yeah only 5 quid but at least they acknowledge its not worth full price, probably due to the length and variety. Just like they did with IOW.
     
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    All I asked about was if there are any other locomotives on this route in real life. You didn't have to get communist one me
     
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    Other trains travel on the route in real life, and some of them stop at Sursee. Nevertheless, the route would have to be much longer to be suitable for intercity train DLCs. Maybe as a layer if a future Swiss route has a focus on long-distance travel.
     
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  5. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    For that to work Route should have been S1 Baar Luzern Sursee which then Runs to Olten as S29 from Sursee alongside Intercity trains Olten Sursee Luzern off-world destinations are Geneva Basel & Milano Centrale. You can see this from S-Bahn Luzern system map seen on the VVL Website written in Swiss German.
     
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    Amazing how there was more work required on ensuring the Swiss safety systems could be accurate and correct on this loco and seemingly does the job to an almost high standard. However, a class 150 with none of these safety systems implemented, sounds awful and operates terribly/inaccurately. It's clearly all about what they can a***d to do..
     
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    S-Bahn_Zentralschweiz_12-2013.svg.png
    Or perhaps the route is based around 2013 when the line was S18 and only did run from Sursee and Luzern.

    As this route map from 2013 shows.

    But of course its Rivet so they have S1 on the PIS, just so they are as accurate as usual LOL.
     
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  8. driverwoods#1787

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    ETCS Level 1 LS isn't used yet on the route in 2013 that came in around 2015-2019
     
  9. tibomatthijs

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    ETCS Level 1 is just added as gameplay, it was an perfect oppitunity to add it since they needed Level 0 so. For immersion use 0 yeah
     
  10. grdaniel48

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    Thanks for your reply.
    I duly agree with you about the route and the train looks great!
    I had mentioned that before.
    But different driving situations must be on a route, because if not, its boring to repeat always the same.
    At least for me.

    For example despite I like very much the SNCF TGV, I did not bought that route, for that reason.
    The same for Cane Creek.
    I like very much US freight trains and UP too.
    But I read the comments about it, and despite it has a really beautiful scenery, and the UP AC4400 with the "regular" bogies, and new freight cars, most comments were it is "boring". The speed is very low
    Then I do not bought it either.

    But I bought Sherman Hill instead, due to it is a quite different kind of freight route.

    Another issue for Luzern - Sursee, is it does not even have some sharp curves or you have to some grades to climb or descend, making it more interesting. Or even it have some kind of "Rush hour" style with more traffic So you have more interesting driving..
     
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  11. Jasper_Rivet

    Jasper_Rivet Well-Known Member

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    On that note: Please let us know exactly what is wrong with it.
    We had several people driving this train in real life and they said that the audio is good, that's why I'm a little confused by this feedback (I know I said this before).

    Come on guys, I know that Scotland is part of Britain, but it's Scotland you know? ^^

    Thanks a lot for the feedback, much appreciated!
    Regarding the cab: I don't know why Matts version was that dark in the stream, it was way brighter when I recorded a few videos (see here for example: )
    But, we made it less dark once again after that feedback (that won't be in the release build though).

    Regarding your quote from me in the stream: I was specifically talking about this scenario compared to the timetable services. The other scenarios featuring interesting gameplay as well, not just A to B drives. And even the timetable includes some depot moves as well.
     
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    I think it looks like a good route, though i know nothing of it IRL. I'll be buying, though, as it's a new safety system and new country (Arosa wasn't my cup of tea).
     
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    Jasper, thanks for your reply
    I mentioned that because I remember, DTG person asked you about why you had choose that scenario?.
    So I believe you reply was referring to other scenarios.
    If it was about timetables instead, then please receive my apologies.
    It is also nice, other scenarios will have interesting gameplay.
     
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  19. DTG Natster

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    I have removed a selection of off topic comments again. This is the second time the thread had been derailed with conversations that have absolutely nothing to do with the route. Please take it elsewhere.
     
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  20. PegasusLeosRailwayFanatix

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    Jasper_Rivet I look forward to this fix. Also is there any possibility that you can add real-life track sound that makes the clickety-clack sound, whenever a train passes a rail? Also, is the headlight really suppose to be that dim and not bright in the morning cause when Matt was doing a stream, it feel as though the headlight was not illuminated at all and bright? Did you realize that? Thanks :cool:
     
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    The problem is that the FLIRT has a really characteristic traction motor sound, from which nothing could be heard in the preview stream(acceleration/deceleration sounds to be exact, other sounds like the doors, buttons, switches, etc.. are really good) that's what I'm trying to point out in the video I posted earlier. I find it a bit funny, that on the Rivet forum you said that you even come across that video, yet you didn't make it sound like it.
    To whom it may concern, I travel by FLIRT every day, I know what it sounds like, I know some people who drive it, I was in the cabin as well.


    Some examples:
    From 1:45
    From 4:01
    https://soundcloud.com/oliver-homok...d&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing My own recording of a FLIRT with a bit of running, decelerating sound
    Jasper_Rivet
     
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  22. kobberstad33

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    I see in some youtube videos that the local Luzern - Sursee route is run by both 8 carriages and 4 carriages.

    I guess in the sim it will be only be run by 4 carriages in timetable mode?
     
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    I think the existence of both 4- and 8-carriage variants in timetable mode was confirmed during the preview stream.
     
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    S-Bahn will be 4 car, RE will be 8 car consists.
     
  25. Amax

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    Why the dlc is not out (ps4)
     
  26. bakedpotatos.jm

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    As they said on the Harlem line they are no longer releasing at midnight on any platform. So it will be there later.
     
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    oh i didn't know thanks for the info
     
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    As bakedpotatos.jm says, they stopped releasing at midnight. Probably because of the amount of foul ups that happened last year with file issues and crashes. If they release when their office is open they have the team who can quickly stop the release, update online files in real time and then set the release in motion again
     
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    The routes now out at $24.99 now this is a bit of a surprise and a nice one to and this is even better then a 10% discounts.

    Wait this routes only 26km = 16.155...miles. Ok i guess we know why it's only $24.99.Make sence.
     
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  30. antony.henley

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    Unable to download on the PS4 / PS5

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    Weird ! I’m able to download both versions ( PS4 and PS5 ) A6C29854-7CA5-4B09-8FBF-88FE844937EA.jpeg
     
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    I'm still waiting to buy this on Xbox (after the 10% Game Pass discount kicks in) but I'm watching first look videos (and previously the Rivet devlogs) and in the tutorials it mentions to reference the manual that Rivet wrote for the train and route. Does anyone have a link to that?

    Also, how is the speed limiter done with controller on consoles, I believe it's called the V-Soll for this train? Is there a Shift-command that we can do, or can we only manipulate it by manually moving the level in the actual cab from 1st person perspective?
     
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    On “immersion controls” you hold square ( X for Xbox ) then to increase you use “R2” ( RT for Xbox ) and to decrease you use “R1” ( RB for Xbox )
     
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  35. TimTri

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    Great to hear they’ve included this in the new Swiss train. AFB in the German trains works the same way, and it feels very intuitive instead of having to look for the lever in the cab everytime.
     
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    Would be nice to try this route out, but it seems that Steam is running real late today. It is 13.30 here in the eastern US which makes it 10.30 where Steam is located.
     
  37. Coastway trainspotter

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    It may not release for another 30 minutes , at 6pm uk time
     
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  38. driverwoods#1787

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    You mean Pacific Time Zone Caltrain route San Francisco San Jose 10:30 Cane Creek Sherman Hill are mountain time zone 11:30. Most of the TSW North America routes are Eastern Time Zone Horseshoe Curve SPG OSD NEC Boston & NY LIRR MNCRR Harlem Line.
     
  39. Craigyboy81

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    I've been pleasantly surprised by this route so far, great scenery.
     
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    It have just realeased in the US like around 2:10PM :D
     
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    Hi Jasper... in several Rivet devblogs, and also in the tutorials for Luzern, a separate manual is referenced. Is there a pdf manual that you can link to?

    Thank you for your time!
     
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    Hold on. I just watched the official trailer and it claims this route has 'thrilling tight bends and steep grades.'

    Did I just get lied to?
     
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    That is definitelky a mistake. Probably one of the flatest routes so far.
     
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    i like that route too the scenery and the train but the route could be longer no doubt and a lil bit more traffic would be awesome.
     
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    Does anyone know how to control V-Soll on a keyboard?
     
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    Mistake? I think that's said about every route, just like how every route in a big city is called bustling when it's mainly deserted. I know it's subjective but every other route does have some curves and grades to an extent. Maybe it's time for a new script.
     
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    F and R are your friends
     
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