Midland Mainline - Skyhook Feedback

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  1. mattwild55

    mattwild55 Well-Known Member

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    Not sure if this one has come up yet* but I got tripped by TPWS northbound going about 60mph (in a 70mph limit) in the 158 between Leicester and Syston.

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    *sorry, there are 38 pages of this thread now...
     
  2. Sproutmask

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    Also, is it wrong that my actual favourite part of the route so far is tidying up the bins? Best collectible in the game :)
     
  3. mikec1701d

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    Couple of HST things. The AI services at St Pancras still have the reversed catering vehicle, also the TGS is in reverse formation too - instead of facing the power car it’s facing towards the other coaches. Short formed HSTs are missing the TGS so can’t comment if they’re correct on the MML or not.

    Vehicle numbers and coach letters are the same for the full train - all displaying coach A and same vehicle number.

    Coach lights are wack. If there’s shadows being cast outside the coach lights strobe along with the shadows, so they’re going from fully lit to black according to whatever the shadows are doing outside.

    There’s far, far too much engine noise inside the coaches. In reality you’d only hear it at the rear portion and vestibules nearest the power cars. Even then it wasn’t that loud thanks to the saloon doors. You certainly wouldn’t hear it at the opposite end of the coach, let along halfway down the train.

    I worked HST diagrams until their retirement in 2019 so I’m happy to provide help in nailing all of this down.
     
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  4. ghawk2005

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    There is also the one second delay between throttle movement and amps beginning to rise, and the amps also need to rise slower which I have mentioned internally to the team, so let’s hope some TLC will be given to the HST for patch 2
     
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    Aws is silent on external cam view 5S91 derby to eastcroft depot.

    Having said that, i echo others in saying you guys need a break. Not just a weekend either. You guys should be extremely proud of MML. An absolutely fantastic route, bloody well done!
     
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  6. Fitz

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    I have to say that since the patch, 3 issues that I highlighted have been addressed.

    The tightlock coupling between unit pairs is now modeled on the 158.
    You can now step up through the open cab gangway from the tracks on the 158.
    The 158 no longer clips through various platforms.

    I know its very marmite among players but I like the fact the DRA is set by default when you start a new unit.

    Good job SHG.
     
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  7. maddog#6254

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    Well said
     
  8. ghawk2005

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    I agree. Especially about the DRA being on by default. I also love the fact that in multiple working, the taillights in between the units are off. Not all DMU’s in the game do this. Another nice little touch.
     
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    Awesome dlc, the immersion has been turned up a notch with that guard buzzer- absolutely love it.

    I did have my first crash/freeze on ps5 last night, after playing maybe 20 or so services. I’ll have to circle back with a service number when I get back home, but in case anyone wants to know…. it’s one of the first 4 services in the 158, 48 minutes long, and follows a 1 minute stock move from the yard.

    Crashed between the 2nd to last and 3rd to last stop.

    Normally I play a lot of the 30 minute services, whether they’re HST or 158.
     
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    What services have multiple 158s please, I seem to miss them lol.
     
  11. ghawk2005

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    I think there is one scenario with it ( can’t remember as I’m away from computer ) but I use 4 car examples in my own scenario planner runs on other routes too.
     
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    Ah ok I thought there were some in timetable mode I was missing lol, Thank you.
     
  13. cloudyskies21

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    Hi jane-skyhook just wanted to ask a question about future patches for MML, but before that just to echo a lot of the previous comments to say what a great team effort by yourself and your colleagues with MML.

    Anyway, what I wanted to ask, now that you have updated the playable timetable, are there any plans regarding future patches to add any AI-only services so that some of the bigger stations like Nottingham and Derby feel much busier as they still seem a tad quiet currently.
     
  14. ghawk2005

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    You don’t want too many otherwise frame rates will grind to a halt like they do in BML especially for users on low spec machines. Have to have a happy medium otherwise we’d all need £3000 gaming PCs to enjoy it
     
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    Of course, I certainly agree with yourself that the route has to be playable for everyone regarding frame rates etc. But, it would still be nice to have at least some AI-only traffic at some of the bigger stations rather than none at all for better immersion if able. Doesn't stations like Nottingham have services that start/terminate to places like Skegness etc?
     
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    Maybe add a slider in the settings for low, medium, high AI traffic similar to flight sims.
     
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  17. Crosstie

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    Something that's sorely needed.

    I took my first run on the 158 yesterday. It's an easy train to drive, too easy in fact. But a pleasant drive nevertheless on a well- modeled route.

    Once again, the downside of this train, like many modern UK emu/dmus, is the tiny, claustrophobia-inducing driver aperture. The earlier generation trains avoided this and are a much better driving experience.
     
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  18. marcsharp2

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    Took this video earlier at Nottingham. You can see the departure routine with the doors, for those who complain it now takes too long. That's how it is. Also for those complaining about lack of fumes...there are hardly any anyway.

     
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  19. nhilsubsolenovum

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    I never really wanted this route, but I've just bought it, to support Jane and her team. I know it's only a small amount of money and won't go far, but reading all of her replies to people, taking on board criticisms as well as praise and getting the patch out, deserves respect and support.
     
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    Jane is a male by the way. Mentioned in the roadmap
     
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    Excellent idea.
     
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    A brave step, good to see the enthusiasm. Just be weary of the landmine personalities on the forum.
     
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    Thanks for posting the video, I appreciate it (especially since I'm across the Pond).

    Kind regards,
    Dave
     
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    Thanks for sharing.
    4 car unit looks great
     
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    Hmm okay haven't noticed that. Last time I checked was in SEHS where the HUD gives you the speed limit of the Networker that is lower from the line's.
     
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    Wow, just wow!
    My professional life started with a smuggled and self built Sinclair ZX81 as well, and with what PSION called a "Flight Simulator" by the time.

    But the rest of the story ..... wow, just wow, you couldn´t make this up. My deepest respect!
    Good to know I did the right thing to support this team and their impressive recovery efforts.
     
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    An anonymous account created specifically to personally attack someone? Lovely. And brave.
     
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    Stay off the forums if you have nothing constructive to say. Why create an account just to attack the cto of skyhook on a public forum with no evidence to back your claim. Sounds like a bot to me
     
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    Oh your a bot alright
     
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    It's very sad that it's got to this. Someone comes in and throws accusations about somebody who has been very open about MML. Whether or not the information that has been mentioned is true or false, personally I'm not bothered. I'm here to find out future info about improvements, patches. etc. Can we get back to this. Is this forum moderated?
     
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    I think it’s irrelevant who Jane is or isn’t, I just want MML to be a success and the start of something bigger and better. Whatever has or hasn’t happened in the past isn’t relevant to this thread. If you’ve got an axe to grind with Jane do it elsewhere, as ultimately it’s just more off-topic guff to wade through here.
     
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    Wise words.
    The Andrew/Jane Whitaker thing is old news (some of us already knew of these 'revelations') and if truth be told it's not particularly interesting anyway.

    One positive though: At least the testosterone levels of the "gang" are going to subside a little now that the cat is finally out of the bag :cool: .
     
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    What the hell has this thread turned into? Its supposed to be about MML feedback and suggestions, NOT slagging folks off. Put yourself in their shoes. You'd feel upset at the very least. Can we just quit it with this bs?
     
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    Where are the mods? This has gone wayyy off topic
     
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    Considering it was near late at night and it's a weekend and they are asleep, probably in the next couple of hours or so. Just report and ignore it
     
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    Reported, and put on ignore, along with the cronies.
     
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    Yeah, definitely time for the moderators to step in and clean things up.
     
  49. jane-skyhook

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    I agree, really sorry that this has happened. I just want to get on with my job in peace.
     
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    Thank you, Jane. I really hope this is an end to this discussion here and you can be allowed to get on with your job, and your life, in peace.

    Best wishes,

    James
     
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