Midland Mainline - Skyhook Feedback

As I promised myself, I picked up MML on " patch day ". Looking forward to giving it a good workout tomorrow.

Pleasant surprise: bought the bundle on Steam and the route was at 15% discount, even though I already had the rest of the package.

 

Running 2A25 Nottingham to Matlock.
First off, you're 4 minutes late leaving (at the time you are due into Beeston) due to a red signal for a HST

Also, This AI formation at Attenborough looks.... off?
Although, could be the creators club livery? Edit - delected the livery and it spawns in as a normal service.

 

hi Jane!

sorry i'm on PS4 pro where the sound is an issue, it's only the class 158 where the aws is not audible using external cameras, but if you could possibly fix it so it can be heard when using external cameras again that would be amazing.

also love the additional class 43 services between Derby and Leicester, just ran one last night and the new timetable makes such a difference!

Katia

 

I decided to pick up the route based on the patch, overall is quite lovely (although the ballast still looks very messy to me, asif it’s been spilt over the tracks rather than placed).

I crashed on a 19:00 2K service (will verify specifically which one later), shortly after the C-Line transition going into Nottingham. PS5.

 

I am still seeing speed limit signs not matching where it commences on the HUD and missing signs at crossovers. Maybe these are in the batch of stuff that got omitted. But overall the route is looking busier, better and fun for a quick blast. If only the lighting could be toned down but that has more to do with DTG’s stubbornness over the lighting changes introduced with TSW3 and not wanting to tone it down a bit.

 

On the 'Can't make your mind up' scenario the stop at Spondon does not trigger that you have stopped so you cannot continue to the last stop at Derby to complete the scenario.
This is on PC.

 

Can confirm it does abide the laws of physics lol

 

What are you playing on? I’m on Xbox and have rain in the windows

 

Yep, they've done a great job with the route, it's v nice to drive.

It's just so disappointing they haven't sorted the signalling out. There's a couple of junctions with incorrect approach control ,the 40 x over approaching E Mids from the north and the other when leaving Attenborough for Sheet Stores jn to Derby - plus still some extra AWS pings, especially on the reversible line from Leicester.

Shame really, as surely that stuff would only be a 30 min job, tops, it would be in TSC anyway. Maybe TSW is harder to edit, don't know tbh.

If only we had an editor to sort it ourselves....

 

PC - Steam

 

Yes, that too.

Why this 'bug' is still cropping up on new content in 2023 is mind-boggling. Bugs happen but when its the same bug on at least half a dozen different releases across several years then it becomes tiresome.

 

Can someone please provide the timetable services breakdown?how many total freight services is MML supposed to have?
158?
Thanks

 

That's looking towards the rear of the train

 

Pic of the rain on the cab streaking towards the nose. Both taken 8/6/23 after yesterday's update

 

There was a bunch of stuff including signalling missed from the patch due to a filing error or something out of SHG control that they're trying to get put out asap I think. If you read a few pages back I'm sure you find it though

 

Jane can you tell us you have plans for adding Sheffield and class 222 meridians as a extension

 

I’d love a 222 and CL 153 and sure the community would generally too. It would be an exciting venture ! ( but I doubt anything has been decided yet. Give them a chance to get this release tip top first )

 

2A25 gold is unachieveable, due to the 4 minute late start at Nottingham.
edit - Spawning on foot clears the signal and allows ontime departure, selecting service locks the route in for a HST

 

I love the fact that you actually have to wait for an approaching train. Highly realistic and like a lot of little realism additions, helps make the immersion just that little bit better.

 

I don't think Jane is at work today not heard anything today?

 

I was thinking the same. Been quiet today.

 

hmmmm

 

sorry been on the road today, so slow on replies. Yes, this is correct. We are hoping to push out an imminent micro update.

 

So is it possible to operate a br class 158 as a single car service as shown?Or is this a just a bug and the and other car is just missing.Plus on the off the chance this is possible what options for the 158 are in scenario planner?and can these 2 unit trains be uncoupled from each other? I have seen some pics from the route showing the 158 as single units parked in a storage yard.

 

There is signalling stuff missing from the patch. We are also continuing with signal fixes as we go forward. It is a priority.

I really wish it where 30 mins in TSW. We have had one person entirely on signal fixes since the release working full time. It takes many many hours on TSW to address signalling. Change one signal and it can knock on with others. Just the way it is. Very laborious.

 

not sure what this is about?

 

it shows when you were the last time on the forums because some said you were not in the office

 

ah, they would be correct, I was not in the office. Had external stuff today on other non train related projects underway. Just got home and checked in with you all straight away

 

It seems it was a bug with the CC layer. after unsubscribing to it, I haven't had a repeat in 4 services, including the same 2A25 service.

 

so latest from me is we are getting our ducks, HSTs and 158s in a row and crosschecking things ahead of a micro update that will put the patch where it needs to be. I will not give a time (in case something goes horribly wrong), but we are planning an imminent rapid release. Again, I apologise for the gremlins that seem to have decided to drive on the MML!

 

Not when it makes the gold medal unobtainable.
If the timetable accomadated it, then sure.

 

I've just switched my PS5 on and did not have a download notification for MML, are the patches included in other routes or is it a specific MML patch?

 

Extension to Sheffield, do it!!!

 

The pic in question is found on the left 34 post above this,So is it possible to place 158's in between mk coaches as shown and tow them like regular passenger cars?

Look for the Icehound 101.

 

There should have been a patch yesterday. There's an imminent new patch coming since the wrong files were sent out outside of skyhooks control so not all platforms got all the fixes.

 

jane-skyhook
This is what I wrote at the very first page of this thread. And, by God, you and your team DID walk the talk and listened to the community´s input. This is what must be called decent customer communication and I tip on my hat for that. Very well done!

DTG could learn a thing or two from this lesson. (Well, for now you´ve got the ´surprise bonus' of wrong or incomplete patch build release .... but from here it can get only better ....)

I´m not really into these modern british EMU/DMU cracker boxes (love ECW though), but I´ll buy the route to support an impressive recovery effort from Skyhook.

 

I appreciate your comments very much thank you and also appreciate the purchase. It means such a lot to the whole team to get comments like this. It means such a lot to me personally too, having only just joined Skyhook and taking on MML as my first project.

 

Just something I've noticed after sitting at Loughborough for half hour in game is that all the HST sets that went by (there were 4) were the shortened 6 coach sets with no full length sets passing. This was from 0800 to 0830 so are all AI HSTs now 6 coach or have I just spawned at the wrong time?
Just to confirm this is on xbox series s.

 

yes down to timing. Both sets are around in the AI.

 

Ah right, just my luck! Thanks.

 

With regard to the freight services, the only downer I can report on the one I’ve tried are the artificial signal checks approaching the Go Via locations. You have the railway to yourself at 0300 in the morning, self evident by the fact as soon as you trigger the location the signal ahead clears from red to green. There’s no approach control here, just the timetable scripting creating an unnecessary SPAD risk (and in the real world a waste of fuel). Can this be looked at, please.

 

I have been - ahem - "providing feedback" for a long time about tying signals to passing Go Via markers, which is utterly unrealistic*. Almost as bad as tying signals to closing doors.

*And a real pisser on US freight routes if you are obeying signals, because you are probably going to be getting an advance approach - approach or approach medium miles back from the Go Via marker, and slowing a freight and trying to re-accelerate is no fun. Not to mention the chaos it creates with ACS.

 

My first run on the new update didn't leave a great first impression.
Tried service 2D41 Lincoln to Leicester, all was well until the game crashed somewhere between Syston and Leicester. I set the month to June with clear weather (dynamic, although it didn't change).

I was zooming in as it crashed, if that's somehow relevant. I'm on PS5.

I want to love this route so much, but it's really hard to when the last service I attempted crashed, I wait a few weeks for the holy grail of updates to come through, and the first service I play also crashes. Literally on the home straight of a 50 minute journey too.

I have nothing but respect for the effort Skyhook are giving to improve this route, and the communication throughout the process has been a breath of fresh air (you'd swear DTG are protecting the nuclear codes with how secretive they are with updates). But it's all for nothing if the game fails to function on the most fundamental level.

 

Why would you prefer getting a ‘medal’ to having a realistic experience? As it happens in this particular case it’s dead easy to arrive on time (the train has a load of recovery time before it’s destination) so you can have both a realistic experience and the medal. However, I desperately hope Skyhook don’t “fix” things like this which make the game so much more realistic. One of the best things about the new timetable is it’s added various signal checks (albeit still not as many as you’d get in real life) and when those signal checks cause you to lose time - as in reality - then all the better.

 

Can anyone with a PS5 show me their notifications where they know they downloaded the patch? I'm not convinced mine has, the only 3 notifications I have are for train sim world 3, peak forest and west Somerset

 

If you go a few pages back somebody posted this... (click on the first attached pic)

 

Just ran the 158 service 2L29 and was pleasantly surprised at finding the DRA was on when I got into the cab. I think this is a first for TSW and adds to the realism of the driving experience. Kept my speed in check as I approached known TPWS points and did not get a penalty stop at any place. Now Jane, a request please which is not critical, the wipers are correctly mapped into the Rail Driver but the light are not. In a future patch could this be fixed?

 

Excellent, thanks for finding that you've helped me confirm it was downloaded, much appreciated bud

 

Well deserved!

Speaking of "walking the talk": It´s my turn now I guess ... see attachment.

(Naaahhh don´t worry, I´m not gonna complain. I haven´t the first clue about trains on your remote island. So, to me it looks and sounds and behaves just like it should. I think ... )