German Loco 6+ Months

Looking great Maik, are those new freight wagons?

 

The Rhein-Main HSL too I think. I caught one on a Dortmund - Munich service fairly recently.

 

Current and future ICE3neo services https://www.fernbahn.de/datenbank/s...iseplan[]=2&fv_suche_detail=1#fv_suche_detail

 

Ice2 have a restaurant. And they are not half of the ice1... Ice1 are driving with 11 coaches (and locos). The ICE2 has 8 coaches.

 

ICE2s have 7 cars plus one engine, ICE1s had 10-14 cars, before settling on 12. A few have now been reduced to 9.

 

I sayd with Locos. If u have read it and ice one had just 12 passenger coaches +2 locos .there was never a 16car variant.

 

It will be a separate one as it is under DTG content and not 3rd party content which is what the 420 is if TSG makes it.

 

189 is effectively a 185, but mulit-versions. We don't have a need for the Mulit-System yet.
Re482 is effectively a 185 again, but for swiss.
407 and 408 would be nice tho, 198 is confirmed.

I, personally think, the 155 and 152 would be a nice addition to the game.

 

Multi-system would be useful to future-proof. Otherwise it's always a cycle of "don't have the locos for multi-system so can't do multi-system routes", "don't have multi-system routes, so don't need to do multi-system locos".

 

For me there are 3 possible add-ons loco

BR 186 it Can run on MSB ,KGW,RSN,RHO,HRR,SKA on all german route only not on Bremen Oldenburg, Mainz koblenz and nidderthalbahn

BR 189 there are not so many route that a 189, Can run in the game

BR 120 with the IC pilot coach.

 

Nah BR 189 it's different 186 it's maybe the traxx with different voltage MS but it's still not really the same loco that AC2 series

 

What heresy is this? No no no, a 189 is not a multi-system 185. A 185 (and 186) is a multi-system version of a 185. A 189 is a completely different loco by a completely different manufacturer.

 

I don't think the "german loco" will be the 420 by TSG. Because the othern known 3rd parties are in the roadmap (though also no content at all by Skyhook?).
So it's either a DTG loco, which i think is most likely, or another german 3rd party. But I can't think of any known 3rd partie TSC studio to do that. Maybe 3DZug joined TSW development?
I really hope for an IC cabcar. Not unlikely for Koblenz Mainz with a BR 120?
A Railjet for Vorarlberg would be awesome, but that's an austrian loco DLC, not german.

Another ICE generation like the ICE 4 could be possible. But that one takes a lot of time only to be a loco DLC for KWG? An ICE-T for DRA seems very logical, but DRA now got the Vectron, so two loco DLCs for one route? Not impossible (see RSN), but very unlikely.

 

It's definitely a Dtg made loco as it's not under the partner release section, also I think JD said on the roadmap stream that Skyhook were still deciding what they wanted to do for Tsw4.

 

You know that the 189 can drive on all routes.

 

I hope they quit. I don't want to see bad work again

 

RSN has nothing to say they are just clowns.

 

A 189 is a 152 just with multy system. If u don't know please don't text here.

 

We Never got the 482 in tsw. And never got that 185.1

 

Yea no. I like skyhook dlcs. But telling them to quit isn't it. If you don't like it, don't buy it simple. Also why are you calling rsn a clown...

 

From the list playable runs are on LZN HMA & KWG with some needing two segements

 

Because they are.

 

The optimist in me hopes for a freight loco for LFR

They? RSN is a route - Ruhr Sieg Nord.

 

I respectfully disagree, sure there are things that need improving but they shouldn't quit, I for one actually enjoy Mml, especially the 158.

 

RSN is the discord Of TSW, TS too lol. But the RSN route is bad too, it was one of the first routes in tsw. But if u look on the main Spessart Bahn u see a difference between good and bad

 

RSN is a great route, great scenery and plenty of gradients for more challenging freight runs.

 

In my opinion RSN stands as one of the best built German routes hands down.

To me it's hard to find fault or complain about like I can in other German routes.

 

A 189 = Siemens locomotive
A 185.x = Bombardier (now Alstom) locomotive

Traxx 185.1 = only 15 / 25 kV AC
- such as DB 185 (also only 15 kV) , SBB Re 482 , BLS Re 485 ...

Traxx 185.2 = 15 / 25 kV AC
- such as DB 185 (also only 15 kV) , SBB Re 482 , BLS Re 485 , Alpha ...

Traxx 185.2 MS2 = 3 kV DC , 15 kV AC
- SBB Re 484 , MRCE

Traxx 185.2 MS2e = 1.5 / 3 kV DC , 15 / 25 kV AC
(= the 186 series)

- such as BLS Re 486 , Akiem , Railpool , Alpha Trains , DB , Railtraction , Captrain …

 

Just gonna leave this here:
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...-best-routes-3-years-after-its-release.47661/
Is it showing it’s age? Yes. Is it still a fantastic route? Also yes. The timetable with the Br 363 is amazing. The physics for the freight trains aren’t all there and RSN’s 143 is awful, but running the newer locos helps with that.

 

I think there's something wrong, some traxx 2 ms are Re 482 too

 

not on SKA for example

 

I follow this database
https://www.elektrolokarchiv.de/index.php?nav=1405015&lang=1

 

If u mean Köln Aachen. That's completely wrong because they can drive there! And they do.

 

ICE 2s have 7 coaches + 1 locomotive. ICE 1s currently have 12 coaches + 2 locomotives, and have had 14 coaches in the past. But the coaches on the ICE 1 are heavier than those on the ICE 2. My point is that the ICE 2 isn't a bad EMU

 

The ICE1 never had 14 coaches! Only 12 coaches and 2 locomotives! And today all are driving with 9 coaches and 2 locomotives

 

ICE 1s are today driving with 12 coaches and two locomotives, as represented in Kassel-Würzburg. ICE 1s have run with up to 14 coaches in the past. If you don't believe me, check the Wikipedia page.

 

That's all not correct, sorry. When you don't know it exactly, please stop telling others they are wrong. Go and study the history of ICE1s and then you can come back and tell us what's right and what's not (with linking to sources, so we can approve what you said our own).

 

Plus we will have TSG's 232 on the route too in due time.

I personally can't wait for that.

 

Agreed, the atmosphere on this route is unrivalled. Cant wait to get the free roam feature unleashed on it.

 

Es gab nie eine Möglichkeit zu 14 teiligen ICE. Da nur soviel wagen gebaut wurden das alle ICE 12 Personenwagen und 2 Loks haben. Natürlich wurden noch 2 Ersatz Loks gebaut, für die gab es aber keine wagen

 

English for the sake of us all

 

No! You start playing by the rules! This is an English forum.

 

DTG JD dtg_jan Hiya

 

U are really searching for conflicts..

 

Not really just forgot the report button exists but anyways https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/train-sim-world-forum-rules.23560/

 

U are reporting me bcus I spoke German to a German person bahahahaha

 

Also i saw that you said to Openminded to get out of your thread but you deleted the comment so yeah

 

What is your mission here? Troll.

 

Nope just saying but i don't have any proof so yeah

 

No worries, already reported him…

But back to topic, just in case anyone is still interested… ICE1 didn’t actually ever make it into service with 14 coaches, even though the initial layout of the system was meant that way. During development it was clear that the coaches are too heavy for the mission profile, so it was introduced with 13 coaches.

There were actually quite a lot of different configurations, going as far as introducing more first class coaches (and less second class) on trains going to Switzerland.

The reason why there has always been a coach 14 is originated in the first years of operation. Back then, smoking was still a thing and it was always meant to be the first and the last coach. In order to minimise operational complications, it was always coach 14, which they introduced in all configurations.

If you are interested in this, the German wiki page on the ICE1 has quite a comprehensive list of all configurations from back then to now. Even though it lists 11,12 and 13 coach variants, I am pretty sure they operated also 10 coach variants in the first variants. However, I don’t have anything official to back this up…

Oh yes, and of course I will only leave a thread when I want to, not if someone is telling me who is not a moderator