Oct 31st Update Breaks Mods?

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  1. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

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    Havent played it yet, but...
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    should I be worried?
     
  2. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    They are investigating. But majority of mods no longer work.
     
  3. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

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    where exactly is that stated?
     
  4. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Myron Well-Known Member

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    manny#3696 New Member

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    Excuse my bad English, but enough is enough.
    Even without mods, this patch does more damage than usual. Now, for example, on the Lucerne-Sursee DLC there is only 5 seconds of sound from the train and ambience. After that, the whole game doesn't make any sound. I've had enough of this wrecking business. You want to earn money? With this poor quality, but no more with me. I've put so much money into this game, but what for so that you completely drive the project against the wall.

    Take back this useless patch !!!! The game is no longer playable like this!!!
     
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  7. Jeannot41

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    And tunnel collisions continue, all the time. Maybe less, but there are still some.
     
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  8. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    What Platform are you
     
  9. manny#3696

    manny#3696 New Member

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    My Platform is Steam and i play with and without mods.
     
  10. bescot

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    A VERY swift fix is required, or roll back the core update. First DLC mods broke, now core mods and even GodMode don't work. This is farcical to say the least.
     
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  11. DTG JD

    DTG JD Director of Community and Marketing Staff Member

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    Hey folks. To update - we've just pushed an update on Steam to revert the mods patch of today's update. We believe this will bring mods back to where they were pre-update.

    Thanks for letting us know of the issues, and for your patience as we've sorted.
     
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  12. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    I am playing a service and I have not lost any audio to luzern sursee. I am also on steam playing vanilla. I also downloaded the update just now too but no loss in audio
     
  13. Fawx

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    Mods are working again now, thank you very much for being so quick to fix it!

    Is the rest of the patch still working? Or was all of it rolled back?
     
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  14. JetWash

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    I believe only the bit affecting mods. Either way, credit where it’s due, that is an impressive turnaround.
     
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    It is indeed, I was seriously worried that it was going to be like that for weeks. So props where props is due. Well done DTG.
     
  16. DTG JD

    DTG JD Director of Community and Marketing Staff Member

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    Just the mods bit, but if anything else has changed since the update tonight, please let us know.
     
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  17. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

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    yeah

    the awesome new Taurus sounds :D
     
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  18. manny#3696

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    After the patch was partially withdrawn, the following happens. I start TSW4, take the route Luzern Sursee and want to play, for example, the Senario Busy season. While loading the senario, the game completely stops. However, the normal timetable mode seems to work.

    Greetz Manny
     
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  19. Tigert1966

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    I just tried that. Loaded the scenario Slippery Season and was able to play it fine.

    I have the following mods installed

    Improved Signals
    God Mode
    Ground Foliage
    And Jetwash’s INI changes (High)

    So if you have any other mods installed maybe try removing them. But doesn’t look like this happens for everyone.
     
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  20. Scorpion71

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    Not sure if I'm missing something here, in the changelog notes it states

    Full Changelog
    Core

    • Modded .pak files should now work as expected within Train Sim World 4.

    OK, so does this mean the mods we had in TSW3 will now work in TSW4? Because I've tried a couple and they still don't work
     
  21. Tigert1966

    Tigert1966 Well-Known Member

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    No this change broke existing TSW4 mods so DTG backed the change out again (just the bit for mods). See JD’s post above.

    So existing TSW4 mods are working again but nothing else has changed.
     
  22. Myron

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    yeah that core "fix" which made most mods not work, was pulled back so now mods should work normally again
     
  23. bartolomaeusz

    bartolomaeusz Well-Known Member

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    3.7 GB yesterday, 6.3 GB today - - is this the rest of the game being loaded? I'm not going to have any drive space left.
     
  24. Myron

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    depends if it says downloading or patching
     
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    bartolomaeusz Well-Known Member

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    It says "updating" (Steam) so I suppose that's "patching"
     
  26. Myron

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    oh I think that's rather downloading. patching comes after updating
     
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  27. bartolomaeusz

    bartolomaeusz Well-Known Member

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    Ok, if that is the case then I've had around 8-10 GB of update content come in over the last two days
     
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  29. Omnicitywife

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    I'm happy I'm still on TSW3...
     
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  30. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

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    yeah idk why you mention that because the issue has been resolved already but good for you :thumbsup:
     
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  31. To be fair, the launch of TSW4 has not been without issues, or controversies.
     
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  32. Omnicitywife

    Omnicitywife Well-Known Member

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    This wasn't an issue on TSW3 and therefore weren't there anything to resolve...
     
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    Myron Well-Known Member

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    yeah and?
     
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    community mods are the for me the only reason I keep playing TSW4 after having bought it with a sufficient discount
    but, does DTG approve of the game being modded or not on the PC?
     
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  35. I suspect theyre open to it, as they have spoken of the desirability of mods like the signal ones. Its not like they need to worry about mods breaking anything, as they can achieve that without our help..
     
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    They approve. In fact, they’ve just stickied a thread here for people to list the ones they use so they can make sure they’re compatible.
     
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  37. Omnicitywife

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    I genuinely can't help you if you don't see the point, jesus...
     
  38. Myron

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    you are correct, I don't see your point.
     
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  39. Fawx

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    I mean it's really not a good point. "I'm so glad I didn't upgrade to TSW4, where when they make a massive mistake they work late and fix it that day." That should be praised and encouraged, not frowned upon.
    Like, sure you can argue it shouldn't have happened in the first place, but it's also not their job to ensure compatibility with third party modifications.
     
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  40. bartolomaeusz

    bartolomaeusz Well-Known Member

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    Exactly! Good mods will not "break the game," but any mods or non-release settings should be used with caution. I trust the mods made by Jetwash/Bescot, etc. - but if I myself made mods? We'd be back to HO scale model trains.
     
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  41. Omnicitywife

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    [EDIT - Jan - Quarrelsome]
     
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    [EDIT - Jan - Quarrelsome]
     
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    I really cannot take anything you say seriously at this point. SD40 AU make more convincing counterarguments than that.
     
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    [EDIT - Jan - Quarrelsome]
     
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    no.
     
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    Very well then...
    I'll leave you be for now, I wish you a uhh, spectacular evening.
     
  47. Fawx

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    Alright, have fun doing whatever it you're doing. Shouting at the sky I guess?
     
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  48. Omnicitywife

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    Nah, but that would've been a objectively better use of my time, as the sky doesn't respond with nonsense. It sure isn't as fun though.
     
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    also with this attempt my game completely crashes even without mods no change.

    Greetz Manny
     

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