Wcml South Feedback

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  1. ididntdoit

    ididntdoit Well-Known Member

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    It was raining so I'm assuming they should be gone when it's dry. Another thing I noticed is passengers no longer stand under canopies with thier umbrellas open.
     
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  2. AvfcWalpole7

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    Here are three things I would like to see improved. There are other things but I have narrowed it down.

    - Class 390 cab audio at high speed/tunnel reverb
    - Increase in Class 710/Underground services (there simply just isnt enough)
    - Increase in passengers at Euston station, not necessarily on the Platforms but more in the concorse behind. Also Euston can be a bit empty for trains at certain times.
     
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  3. warpshell

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    I have seen passengers stand under canopies with their umbrellas open in real life, so they got it right. Some puddles might stay for a bit after it rains, so sounds ok to me, so long as they don't stay for ages.
     
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  4. warpshell

    warpshell Well-Known Member

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    Thanks fella, DTG need this feedback, an empty station that should have trains in it, that's not good, there should be trains. Passengers are needed to be placed correctly to make it pop. The lack of train traffic is not good either.
     
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  5. DB628

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    Where is the Passenger Saloon Button for the 350?
     
  6. ididntdoit

    ididntdoit Well-Known Member

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    From the one run I did do on wcml. It doesn't look too bad. Apart from the appalling tod4 lighting and the signature blue light in the tunnels.
    It's definitely got a rivet feel to it which I'm not complaining about.
    I think with a exposure mod it will be good.
    Driving the dc line is dead bit there's plenty of traffic flying past on the mainline.
     
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  7. ToffeeKat

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    Sky issues can be seen on the route.

    weird pole like assets trackside in several locations.

    track speeds at Willesden don't match the signage.
     
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  8. yeecharlie#6454

    yeecharlie#6454 Well-Known Member

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    Interesting. The LNWR colours are still on signposts at stations?
     
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  9. addry#6825

    addry#6825 Well-Known Member

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    Well you obviously don’t.
     
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  10. ToffeeKat

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    colours remain, the logos and wording are removed.
     
  11. yeecharlie#6454

    yeecharlie#6454 Well-Known Member

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    I thought the specific colour schemes were also considered trademarks?
     
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  12. mjc83me

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    Reading all the feedback on the WCML thread, I’m soooo glad I didn’t pre-order. Seems to be a lot of crashes happening on consoles, even Gen 9. TSW 5 (especially WCML) was definitely not ready for prime time.
     
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  13. warpshell

    warpshell Well-Known Member

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    That is a simple fix, the sky tiles need to be glued back up there again. The pole track side is used by track workers to measure the track maybe? And kids must have changed the speed signs around again ;)
     
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  14. addry#6825

    addry#6825 Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like a buggy mess. Glad I haven’t pre ordered. German route looks good though but not sure it deserves a full buy.

    Fair play to Matt for answering questions but surely he saw this stuff with his own eyes initially? I mean that’s his job isn’t it?
     
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  15. warpshell

    warpshell Well-Known Member

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    Same, a game shouldn't arrive on the market in this state. I am not going to buy and I tried to advise others not to buy until wcml is fixed, fair play to those who did buy it, but they need to raise support tickets. Support Ticket Simulator 5
     
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  16. addry#6825

    addry#6825 Well-Known Member

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    Anyway I can’t see any trains from here…
     

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    I don't want people to be having issues, sadly it is inevitable but of course they need reporting, but taking pleasure from it is rather odd.

    I'm sure I'll find some myself when I've finally managed to download it!
     
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  18. eldomtom2

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    Notably absent has been any sort of explanation regarding the timetable issues...
     
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  19. ididntdoit

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    Can you throw passengers off using conductor mode?
     
  20. warpshell

    warpshell Well-Known Member

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    No, they are call boats, they float in water, if DTG made them they may not float, probably sink. You have a faulty blue sky as well :)
     
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  21. yeecharlie#6454

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    Are you aware they make fishing sims too?
     
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  22. barryr21

    barryr21 Well-Known Member

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    Have you legitmately got nothing better to do than gleefully quote people who are finding issues or slag people off who are enjoying it? Maybe go and play another game? One you might actually enjoy?
     
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  23. warpshell

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    Yeah, but sure every year TSW is a mess, but it doesn't stop DTG from selling it to us and then we are expected to wait till the manage to get around to fixing some of the bugs. That is why I didn't run off and buy it and I advised others not to because thus is what you get. I would much rather wait till Easter and pick up wcml in a condition it was ment to be in, not as it is now.
     
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  24. warpshell

    warpshell Well-Known Member

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    Please tell me the fishing is done from the shore. Fishing from a boat is risky enough in real life without having DTG involved :) anyway is it any good?
     
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  25. warpshell

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    No, nothing better for doing. Next question :)
     
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  26. mattwild55

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    I've just driven the entire Watford DC line on service 2C16 southbound from Watford to Euston and passed a grand total of one 72 stock coming the other way (just after Willesden Junction) and zero 710s, other than one which had just arrived when I left WFJ.

    Also several signalling issues - AWS triggered on green signals I think 3 times, and remember seeing a location near Bushey on the southbound line where the fourth rail was clipping through an AWS ramp.

    Additionally, the 710 onboard PIS doesn't work for the intermediate locations between Bushey and Harrow - I'm not sure if they're perhaps missing from the master station list.
     
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  27. aeronautic237

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    I thought we had a full 72 stock timetable, though, and it was just the Lioness Line one that was empty.
     
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  28. fakenham

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    Oh no, watching Matt's stream I noticed this, annoying that no one in testing picks these things up. Also noticed no pings/warnings at all from some magnets. Signalling issues really spoil the immersion for me. How is approach control, have all the high speed crossovers have flashing yellows ? And approach from red for the slower ones?
    Still using those terrible thick fonts for the speed signs I see, how many years have we been waiting for a decent set of UK speed signs?
    First time I haven't preordered, maybe one for later, as I really only play UK routes in TSW. Zusi for German, Run8 for US routes for me.
     
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  29. Yeah, if you play hudless, that stuff really needs to be done right.
    Good to know.
     
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  30. tootyhoot

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    I don’t ever buy new releases of anything. I wondered many players are referring to the emptiness of the WCML - do you find this?
     
  31. OldVern

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    I think it’s done passively IIRC from Glossop. That is, you simply click the response which tells them to buy a ticket, or get the heck off my train. However unlike OMSI 2 or Flixbus there is no support for actually selling tickets from a machine and taking cash or card payments. That IMHO would make the process feel less gimmicky.
     
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  32. NorthLondoner125

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    Is anyone noticing gaps on the Class 350 timetables?
     
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  33. ToffeeKat

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    Definitely an issue with the sky on WCMLs

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  34. tootyhoot

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    No, worse fishing games on the market, no virtual angler would play them more than a few times. They also keep copying and pasting new ones - sound familiar? Though Bassmaster 2022 isn’t too bad.
     
  35. OldVern

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    That’s how route hopping works, then! The mystic portal awaits.
     
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  36. ididntdoit

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    I see 3 72 stock and one 710 during the rush period. I think the aws alert was for the speed reduction, could be wrong though.
     
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    That doesn't look good, I'm surprised a tester didn't spot that.
     
  38. ididntdoit

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    Yes it would be nice if you could take a payment. It wouldn't even be as complex as omsi in this cashless society.
    What would add to the emersion, is a couple of gold caps waiting at the next station. For the non payers that is.
     
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  39. mattwild55

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    Nowhere near - a full 72 stock timetable for the overground portion of the route would have at least 300 playable services. The BKL stock timetable is similar to Rivet's 1938 stock timetable (in fact I think it may be based on it), where there are sometimes gaps of 45 minutes between services (on a route where there should be 8tph in each direction between Queen's Park and Stonebridge Park).

    The Lioness line is no better, with sometimes up to 90 minute gaps between services.

    EDIT: Oh my god some of the services are literally just the shunts at Harrow. So actually the full BKL timetable should be more like 600 services if they're being split like that.

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  40. ididntdoit

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    I was fortunate enough to be driving in heavy rain. So I didn't notice the tear in the fabric of spacetime.
     
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  41. AvfcWalpole7

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    Im on PS5 and did not have 1 crash last night
     
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  42. OlPaco

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    I'm going to play it safe and pick up the free package next Tuesday. WCML was the main attraction for me to get back into TSW, but I think it needs more polishing before I can justify opening my wallet. Amusingly enough, a friend gifted me ECML today because they got my birthday wrong by 2 months and thought it was today :) So I got something to chew on for a while along with the Paddington-Reading remaster when that comes out.
     
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  43. Its the Lockdown edition.. everyone is working from home hence no passengers and reduced timetables. Its a feature really.
    And what the hell is going on with that sky? Is it a platform issue or is it cross platform?
    Starting to feel a lot better about holding off on this.

    If theyd fixed the floating cars I'd have probably bought in for the San Bernadino route. But they didnt, so I havent.
     
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  44. swift19

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    Not purchased yet. I've seen plenty of reports of crashes but quite a few don't state what platform they're on. I'm on PS5. Are the crashes occurring on PS5?
    Thanks
     
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  45. tootyhoot

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    Haha like it. Me too, I don’t want to pay a lot of money to be a beta tester.
     
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    Well I can honestly say from most of what I've seen and heard that I'm glad I didn't stump up for this and am waiting for the free update instead. I will wait for the beta testers that paid for the privilege to point out all the many problems, especially the train strike version that has seemingly released instead of rush hour, with half the 350 8 car units seeming to join the action, and then I'll buy it if and when it's finished.
     
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  47. dean stansfield

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    It's there for me on the WCML.All tunnels and a few fly overs.
    Running Creative AE5 with 5.1 speakers plugged in to it.
    Try updating drivers for motherboard and GPU, soundcard.
     
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  48. OldVern

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    I certainly had reverb in Kensal Green and Primrose Hill Tunnels and under all the bridges that warranted it.
     
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  49. Ah that's good Intel. Thanks Dean and Vern. I haven't gotten it yet but that was going to be a major downer if it had been missing. I'm glad that's not the case. Thanks for the clarification.
    I've edited my original post of dismay with that information.
     
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  50. SierraOscar95

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    Also a small error I've noticed, I was on the slow line and being overtaken by another 350 on the fast line going North, still displaying London Euston as its destination.
     
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