Xbox Series X Series X Struggling With Frankfurt-fulda - Video Memory Error, Blurry Textures Etc

I have had that, have you reduced the resolution?

 

Always crashing when near Frankfurt for me on XSX. Also very blurry textures inside and outside of cab.

Done the same run on ps5 and was fine.

 

Does the same crashing happen on WCML South?

 

I’ve had frame rate drop but no crashing. Boston and Trenton crash a lot for me. Same with Brighton used to on one of the older tsw but never had it on PlayStation. Must be a Xbox problem.

 

Euston is a station that really is affected by crashes, everything else seems to be fine. On one note, I have had a crash on guard mode Crewe to Euston around Willesden yard

 

Posted this in the feedback thread but also relevant here as well.

This route is still a complete and utter mess on console, especially Gen 9! I decided to play this route again recently after a while as it should be fantastic. BUT, there's just so many continuous problems with it that I'm not bothering with it no longer until it hopefully receives a lot of optimisation just in order for it to work.

For example, every service I played into Frankfurt the game had an out of video memory error, the only way to complete the service is to resume a saved game. Then, on a service departing Frankfurt the game closed due to a video memory error three times in a row - the last time was even after resuming a saved game. Then, along with this the continued blurry textures which ruins the experience of this route and makes it impossible without the HUD.

Elsewhere, this service 0743 ICE (275) Berlin Ost Bahnhof to Interlaken Ost service from the route is also uncompletable because just outside Hanau all the traffic ahead is blocked due to a freight train which is stuck.

The fact this route is still so unstable on console, especially Gen 9, is completely and totally unacceptable. Players deserve so much better than this!

 

Playing this route today I had the same problem as you on the Xbox Series X. Dovetail needs to resolve this as soon as possible as it is very frustrating. This console is very powerful and runs much heavier games smoothly. It's clear that Dovetail doesn't correctly optimize some DLC's, leaving our experience very bad.

 

OUT OF MEMORY every time near Frankfurt. I have the impression that rail tracks themselves especially huge sidings are too heavy for system, huge stutter occur near (even empty) sidings... Rails causing crashes in railway sim what an irony

 

It's not just this route. I can't drive to euston in the pendo without out of memory crash. I can in any other train. Last night had it on London to Brighton half a mile from victoria station. The mastery dosnt work any more and I can't download any liverys as it says I have to many. I have 20. . Was working till the last update. I'm on the verge of giving up with this game. Such a shame as there are alot of nice routes coming. But it's not worth spending any more money on a game I can't play.

 

Bump again!! Still out of memory issues happening.

 

Yes, sadly. I've given up playing this route completely because of the video memory errors and blurry textures. For this to occur frequently on Gen 9 is frustrating to say the least.

 

Has anyone submitted a ticket on this issue.

 

Nope, I haven't. But you're welcome too.

 

Well I am on PC and not experiencing these issues, so it would best that you submit the ticket because you are on Xbox.

 

Anyone else feeling a bit apprehensive with the new Frankfurt S-Bahn route considering how Frankfurt-Fulda has been on console?

 

A crazy idea, here, but what of the temps on ya consoles? I fired up Fulda

And some temps from my box
At idle

Running the timetable service

And I have an extra fan, not the best out there, but it's pushing cooler air in at the bottom rear.

 

Can someone explain me, how exactly cloud gaming works? Sometimes I play on my Samsung Tab S10 Ultra with Game Pass. I tried both Apps "better xcloud" and the Xbox App.

Cloud Gaming has the same problems with the game as my Xbox. It nearly always crashes when you finish a run to Frankfurt.
So is it the Xbox or the game made for Xbox?

 

If you’re playing on Xcloud what you’re getting is basically the Series S version of the game running on Microsoft servers and streamed to your device. So not surprising you’d be getting the same issues (probably even more because it’s not Series X you’re getting from the cloud).

 

Thanks, that's interesting

 

Well, along with Frankfurt-Fulda, Mittenwaldbahn now on my Series X is having the same issues, specifically out of video memory errors and consistent blurry textures.

When is this ever going to be sorted?

 

I’m questioning the same thing, which is I’m not playing TSW at the minute because I just know for a fact that if I buy Cardiff City Network or the NL route, I’ll just experience the same issues there.

Currently I’m playing British Railway on Roblox which has better quality than most TSW5 routes shockingly. Hell, even City Transport Simulator is more playable and viewapp is actually working to fix the game and update it more too.

 

To be honest, I must say the new Dutch route is actually worth getting. It's probably, in my opinion, the best route regarding performance (playing on Series X) in a very, very long time which is a really nice surprise.

 

Posted this in the route feedback thread too:

While this route is still highly frustrating on console, I must say the route is at least somewhat playable. The majority of freight services towards the Fulda end of the route work without any major issue - even the framerate on Series X is quite alright too; however, the blurry textures are still consistently a pain and do still ruin the overall experience nonetheless.

 

Possible Fix for crashes on Mittenwaldbahn and Frankfurt Fulda for Xbox series X:

After testing i've found that if you dont use quick resume (loading up the game with all the dlc before starting Fulda or Mittenwaldbahn) will help prevent crashes.

Also I used HD graphics (yes it looks not nice, but i got used to it) from the settings and Custom Clear weather. Make sure you dont use much of the external camera's or photo mode. Zooming in maybe also builds up memory. Also prevent using open windows in the cab and avoid using the horn if you can as much as possible, because somehow I think the sound engine can also make the game crash and will build up memory usage.

On mittenwaldbahn you can get away with a lot more gameplay like external views and looking around etc because the route is more forgiving than Fulda Frankfurt.

So... basically sit in the cab still...and just drive the train

But with this method I could complete long services, also during rush hour. No problems when entering Frankfurt hbf for instance.

More info from the dev's:

https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...nds-to-help-performance-reduce-crashes.88010/

Hopefully the dev's will fix these 2 routes... so we can play them normally. But for now this should work for some people that are willing to take some sacrifices.

 

Many thanks for taking the time, much appreciated. I'll see if this works on my Series X.

Apologies, could you elaborate regarding this point? Thanks.

 

Some info from xbox support and gamesradar:

With the Quick Resume feature on the Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S consoles, you can jump back into your games right where you left off.
When you switch from one game to another, the console saves the state of the current game. If there’s a Quick Resume state for a game that you switch to, the console will load that state for you.

This feature will work seamlessly across multiple games, but if you want to bypass Xbox Quick Resume for whatever reason then you can press the Xbox button and highlight the game from the guide, before pressing the Menu button and choosing the Quit option. This will fully shut the game down and remove it from your current Xbox Quick Resume line-up, so the next time you start it, you'll need to wait for it to load up again.

 

So, have also done quite a bit of testing of Frankfurt-Fulda on Series X and here are my observations. Would also love to hear from others on Series X as well as PS5 too...

Anyway, the absolutely vital thing that seems to stop the video memory errors is switching your display from 4K to HD in the settings menu - so far I've now managed to play and, most importantly, complete around 15 services (ranging from the 642, 114, 146, dosto, 101, 411) in a row without problem! Bear in mind, the blurry textures still persist frequently and are a major issue, but at least the route is playable. However, just one thing, after finishing a service at Frankfurt Hbf, while walking around, the game did randomly close to the Xbox dashboard, but other than that, nothing similar.

One other thing of note, make sure you always have the interactive map zoomed out as far as possible, as that seems to effect performance.

I've also noted that when in HD, I've had no issue with different weather conditions - from overcast to rain etc - using the horn, windows, using the external camera (well not at Frankfurt obviously) and so on. Between Frankurt and Hanau, performance on Series X can be quite atrocious at times, especially Offenbach in particular, but after Hanau up to Fulda it greatly improves.

One other observation, many of the freight services (especially towards the Fulda end of the route) as well as the short 423 S-Bahn services and FlixTrain worked mostly without issue, even with 4K enabled in all different types of weather - though probably because all these don't go to Frankfurt Hbf.

For context, before I switched to HD, this was the result when using 4K. Out of the four services, two worked, while the other two had video memory errors (one arriving into Frankfurt and the other having just departed); what's interesting is one of the video memory errors occurred when having changed the weather to overcast, but when I replayed the same service to clear, custom weather, it worked. So, it seems clear, custom weather is more important when using 4K than HD I've noticed.

Welcome any more feedback from other players. Whether it makes a difference or not, but I have 41 DLC currently installed for TSW.

 

Mir ist aufgefallen, dass das Spiel etwas stabiler läuft, wenn man es speichert und neu lädt. Auch das Beenden der Quick Resume-Funktion auf der Xbox hilft.

 

So, have continued playing Frankfurt-Fulda with HD as mentioned earlier. Have managed to play more than 30 services without issue - and when the route works, despite the super annoying frequent blurry textures and sometimes poor performance, it's very enjoyable. However, just to be clear, it's still not a complete fix, sadly. On departure from Frankfurt, had my first video memory error while as HD - weather conditions were heavy rain - but having replayed the service again with just overcast, it worked without issue. The only other problem so far was when playing another service and got to Hanau before the game froze and closed to the Xbox dashboard - weather conditions were foggy. So, best to keep saving the game frequently, especially for longer services.

 

Big 3.6 GB update yesterday and the game still crashes - what’s the matter with you, DTG? I‘ve saved the game right before the crash (did a service with the BR 411 from Frankfurt to Fulda, game crashed right before the tunnel), when trying to reload the saved game the train derailed immediately. It’s so frustrating, because I really like the track.

And by the way - the door indicator on the display of the BR 146.2 still isn’t working.

 

The save game system is, for the most part, broken; you may get lucky here and there, but it really is a hit or miss.

 

Posted in the feedback thread, but also relevant here too:

Has anyone noticed any differences with the original base timetable on console? Playing this route recently and I've noticed that performance seemed better and blurry textures slightly less frequent.

However, I realised potentially why as there are now no S-Bahn services at all (AI traffic - but the 423 can still be selected from the menu and all the AI traffic appears if you play these services). Moreover, I've also noticed a few other things too, namely all loco-hauled RE/RB services are operated by the 146, with no 114. Finally, I've also noticed no ICE-T in general, yet the ICE 1 and ICE 3 still appear; same thing with the 423, these locos can be selected via the menu though.

So is this an error, or has there been some kind of update to reduce services and/or rolling stock to increase performance? I'm playing on Series X, so anyone else on console also confirm this? Thanks.

 

On Series S, all the layers still appear to be present and to behave as normal, but remember that the experience on Series S for FTF was always seriously downgraded to begin with. However, I have noted that on WCML South, the freight layers are not present at all, including static stock and AI, unless you choose to drive a freight service. Likewise, the 72 stock does not present itself at all unless you choose to drive one of those services. And, I have read that the 465 layer is no longer present on LBN (not personally verified).

It seems that a pattern is developing of stuff that we've paid for getting gradually taken away, and it's not good to see. I imagine this is the sort of thing that will possibly prevent people from spending money on the game, when it can just be taken away with no warning or explanation.

 

It would be nice to have a proper, valid reason why...
This goes back to TSW2020 when heavy haul, ie; Sand Patch, was released, it was not released for XBOX, and if memory serves, it was due to the route not being able to run properly on console, yet Sand Patch is in TSW2, 3, 4, 5.
But now they are even doing this with many of the newest routes, where it's even taken away; it's not there to begin with, it was stated in one of the live streams. Consoles will get limited versions of DLCs, and how Gen 8 consoles were slowly going to become not feasible, and rather than make all like GEN 8, the focus will be on Gen 9+, now that brings up the newest XB handheld, how it will fit in the lineup, and the Steam Deck.

The 465 is in these options on the Series X, only thing is that the Full has bugged services.

 

Same issue with Southeastern Highspeed on series S. Seems the core has been bugged as a lot less bakerloo line trains and more London overground 710s. Still as usual with the 350 and 390. Don't know what caused thid but the previous update must have seriously impacted the core

Sorry to tag you DTG Matt, are you aware of this issue?

 

Hello Matt. I can't speak to the current timetable issues that are currently being reported for FTF on Series X, or on LBN concerning the 465. The problem I have noticed concerns WCML South:

The freight layers no longer appear in timetable mode, unless you choose to drive a freight service. In that case, you can see the freight AI and static stock. Otherwise, you don't. For instance, I drove a 350 timetable service over the entire route and there were no freight trains passing and zero stock at Wembley. This happens at all times of day, and when starting on foot as well. No freight layers unless you yourself are driving a freight service. And, the same thing is happening with the 72 stock; you don't see any of this either, unless you have selected a 72 stock service to run, then you get to see the entire layer.

I am relieved to learn that there were no intentional timetable reductions. I had thought that this was perhaps how DTG was choosing to optimize the game, by removing certain layers, especially with the reports from other players about similar concern on other routes. Since it is apparently a bug, I would hope for a quick solution. A lot of the enjoyment for me when driving a route like WCML South is the busyness. I have also submitted a ticket concerning this problem. Thank you.

Edited to state this is on Series S

 

Hi DTG Matt , I'll just add my own experience from Series X regarding the same thing for Frankfurt-Fulda (more details can also be viewed via the feedback thread too). Another player from that thread fre also said they were having the same issues regarding the route.

Anyway, the main issue is that certain locos/traffic are completely missing depending on what services you drive/spawn on foot. So, for Frankurt-Fulda, if for example, you select say the 146, 101, or even spawn on foot, then there are now no AI 423, 425, ICE-T; elsewhere all loco-hauled RE 50/RB 51 services are operated by just the 146, with no 114 at all. Moreover, I've also noticed no ICE-T in general, yet the ICE 1 and ICE 3 still appear. However, despite this, all these missing locos can still be selected from the menu and, when you do, services reappear; example, selecting the 423 as a playable service means that now all S-Bahn AI services came back.

But, as mentioned above, it all depends on which service you select which seems to be the main factor. When playing the BR 193 FlixTrain services, all AI traffic including the 423 S-Bahn were now present. But, select the 101, and a lot of the traffic previously seen is now gone again. Playing a BR 101 service from Fulda to Frankfurt with the reduced traffic was noticeable as the duration was expected as 1hr 1m long, but I arrived into Frankfurt nearly 15mins early which obviously doesn't seem right.

I hope this explanation has been clear. But, do let me know, if you need me to elaborate further. The missing AI traffic I've only noticed being a very recent thing, so might be worth checking since the latest updates to TSW.

 

Hi DTG Matt, just experienced the same issue others have raised in regards to missing AI but on Southeastern Highspeed with the 465s not appearing at Dartford, Ashford being really quiet with no 375s and 465s in the depot, as well as Strood with the Tonbridge services. I recon the recent update might have caused this issue alongside BML and WCML South. I have seen others talking about FTF having the same issue but I will have a check up on the FTF one. Will update when I have tried FTF to see the issue

 

Is this on series S or series X you are having this issue?

 

Series S

 

Not sure if it helps but I'd like to add that Frankfurt - Fulda also doesn't run smooth on my brand new gaming PC, although admittedly I run on 4K. I doubt hardware is a problem here, my PC doesn't have any problems running any other games on 4K. Frankfurt - Fulda stutters more than the average TSW route.