Gwe Remaster: Appreciation And Discussion Thread

That's it, not a word more, where to put the money? If it helps to make future remasters, I will be happy to support you with a ruble)

 

As far as I know it worked well with the Class 380 and the Acela didn't it? The Cathcart remaster and new 380 timetable was one of the best received things since your WSR remaster from what I recall.

 

One can dream, but I fear we are stuck with the soulless MTU variant. Perhaps we need to create a poll to establish how this would affect sales of the dlc. Honestly, if it were to include the Valenta engine I would say ‘name your price’. To put this into context - I’ve driven the current HST once and not returned.

 

Birmingham City Remaster with Class 170 and 730 plus layers for the 350 just like Cathcart want Sell amazing

 

Must admit of the modern variants I do prefer the VP185. However I believe Liam has said that this pack isn't necessarily actual heritage or pre-refit units, and rather is the retro liveries some power cars received to bid them farewell in their latter years, so still MTU engines.

 

You’re absolutely correct. I guess I’m just hoping there is a slim chance the VP185 will be introduced and in turn maximise Liam’s sales : )

 

Not forgetting the update with Dresden-Riesa too which came with the BR 193 Vectron and Eanos Wagons as brand-new loco DLC.

 

None of the VP185 power cars wore special liveries before they were withdrawn....but I'd love to see some in retro Midland Mainline liveries.

 

As much as Birmingham cross city needs a update, I don’t think it should take priority when you have all the routes for tsw 2020 that still need basic updates like new lighting and even better a full remaster

 

First we Need to know about a Unreal Engine 5 Update, because all Routes need a new Lightning before TSW 3 then.

NTP and TVL One of the worst routes with WCL from the old TSW Content from UK
The Landscapes Are pretty bad because the routes too old

 

DB got rid of all their 56's. Colas has a few and DC rail. 56's were converted to Class 69's by EMD for use by GB Railfreight
They have a GM12n-710G3B-T2two stroke engine and a GM EMD AR10/CA6Traction Alternator. They have Brush TM73-62 traction motors. It was a complete rebuild of the loco.

Hentis

 

Anywhere.lol

 

One thing I note from GWE powercars. The traction whine is quite noticeable irl. Its either very quiet or isnt there in the current TSW MTUs.
That and the burst of revs as it goes from notch to notch.

 

Matt loves slam-door trains, we've already got one DMU, hopefully another on the way. I wouldn't expect a slam door EMU just yet but we'll get one eventually.

 

First of all. I'm really excited to try out this new remaster when it comes out, been waiting on it for ages now

 

He sure does love slam-door trains

 

There isn't going to be an Unreal Engine 5 update - this has been explained and the reasons why have been discussed many times.

I wouldn't put NTP and TVL in the same boat as WCL. NTP and TVL were good for their time, WCL is just a bad route overall.

 

Yeah i get what you mean, sometimes it normally does that

 

I agree WCL is indeed a very bad route. To be honest it would be a lot nicer if it was upgraded rather than it being a stand alone product

 

There are no routes in TSW that would justify a slam door EMU at the moment. The last slam door EMUs were withdrawn around 2010 and even then they were almost entirely extinct. The route would need to be set around the turn of the millennium, which would be a very cool time period to explore but I have no idea if they'd even consider it. That said, they could backdate an existing route, but if they were going to do London to Brighton as an example they'd need more than just a 4CIG. The CEPs and VEPs would really need to be there to add the variety that the slam door era had.

An unfortunate flaw with DTG is that they are allergic to adding variety through alternate subclasses and variety. For London to Brighton they made only the 377/4 for Southern services. Ignoring the lack of 455s for suburban services, they missed out at least seven other varieties. This of course lead them to adding the '377/1' to the timetable to make up the numbers, despite the /1 being completely inaccurate. Funnily enough, they couldn't even be bothered to model the interior for the /2s, which is largely identical to the later batch of /1s.* The same applies to the 465s, and the 375s, and pretty much every other modern UK train in TSW.

*There are three different variants of the 377/1 subclass, all of which are different inside in substantial ways to the /4.

 

My idea to have the Medway Valley Line late 90s with slam door stock linking Redhill to Strood. I know the eras would be different but that would allow route hopping between SEHS and Brighton Mainline.

 

Some really interesting developments happening which will tie in with this route nicely, as well as other things.

As the saying goes; 'Slow and steady wins the race'.

 

I know what you mean, they don’t sound nearly as meaty as they sound in Ben Elias’s incredible cab view videos of the NMT on youtube. Unfortunately updated sounds from AP are beyond the scope of the remaster and, I would imagine, Liam’s HST pack he is developing as well.

 

Won't happen unless Liam works on the MML route or decides to backdate the GWML. I believe a few GW HST sets trialed the VP185 but that would mean remodelling Reading.

 

DTG Liam Any plans for mark 3 coaches with automatic doors?

 

You mean sliding doors? They were only fitted when the HSTs got demoted to regional work in Devon

 

Wholly anachronistic. If DTG were to make a vintage route from the era when the Valentas were still running, that would be one thing; but to put it on any of the extant Class 43 routes would be almost as ridiculous as DLGW. No Valenta-engined HST ever wore GWR or Midland colours.

 

I think perhaps you are missing the point. I’m fully aware GWR ran the MTU variant, which I have previously acknowledged. My suggestion is if we are going to see a HST dlc, then this could be an opportunity to finally introduce the Valenta. If the purists prefer to run the MTU that is fine, but having both options should not been seen as negative.

 

Absolutely, I want no spiders in my train game DTG

 

Some of the Power cars that were made redundant by Virgin went to Midland Mainline, and were re-liveried into their fetching blue/silver livery.

 

As much as I'd like to see a Valenta added to the game, this pack seems to be more a way to add a little extra authentic variety to the route, and to get something back for all the time put into the remaster.

There simply isn't really any role for the Valenta HST in this pack, beyond some inauthentic railtours to justify the time spent making an authentic Valenta HST (you'd need to re-do the coaches too).

A Valenta HST only makes sense really as the main train of a new route as far as I'm concerned.

 

Actually, in addition to that, it would be a silly thing to have contained in a loco add-on anyway. Then in future it would only be added to routes as a layer, rather than as a core train on a route.

If that were the case, everyone who didn't have that add-on would be up in arms if an appropriate route was added, but the flagship train of the route wasn't included.

On the flip side, if it was included as a core train in a route, you'd be shafting everyone who did purchase the loco add-on, and completely killing any future sales of said add-on, in turn, shafting whoever made that loco add-on.

TLDR of my thoughts:

It doesn't make sense in the scope of this add-on

It would make sense on the route the add-on is being made for, anyway

It probably doesn't make sense to do as a loco add-on anyway

 

Having recently moved to a station on the GWE route I jumped back in to have a play around, not that I'm able to drive it but is the presence of a London Underground train on a platform at Ealing Broadway something new, or something that I had forgotten about.

I walked down to the end of the platform and then back round to the platform with the Tube train on, and while it wouldn't start up, I was able to open the doors and access the train.

Like I said above, is this some

 

They added it when Adam's team did the preservation crew touch up, some time ago, as I remember it

 

You remember correctly. This was the same update that added some brighter containers for freight and added PIS displays to the platforms and the Turbo. They did say that the 72 stock was static and didn't have power since the track wasn't configured properly, so it won't move, but it is there.

 

Even the railtour would be fictional, since every 43 was re-engined to either an MTU or VP185. Today the prototype power car 41001 has been retrofitted with a Valenta, but it's a static museum display, and has no running mate.

 

I think there is a group somewhere restoring a production power car with a Valenta, but I haven't heard anything on that in a long while now

 

The 125 Group are trying to get one fitted.

 

Thank you very much!

 

I think the 125 Group did manage fit one to the prototype Power car, but I think that’s gone back to the NRM/Shildon since.

As far as LU trains goes on GWE, I think I remember Liam mentioning the stretch of the Circle and Hammersmith & City Lines between Paddington - Westbourne Park would be drive-able, provided you have the Island Line 2022 addon.
Edit, link to the 125group because they’re doing good work:
https://www.125group.org.uk/

 

Will this military pack layer into the remaster. Thanks

 

What about livery? Blue and white Island Line would look pretty silly

 

I think I remember it being said it'll.be unbranded London Underground livery (or something along those lines).

 

Even better they could have done it 2017 that way Class 800s are around and then have an LNER version of it

 

Me too. I appreciate the effort Liam has put into this remaster, but as a player we always crave for more. I would’ve liked them go that extra mile and change up this whole route entirely, even if it meant us having to re-buy it like with the LIRR.
Change the year as you mentioned, more variety of rolling stock, more branch lines and extension to Swindon.
This was one of DTG’s first routes they released back in 2018 so it deserves more love.

 

Double Yellow There wouldn't be much point creating something old-based, Imo. I'd prefer (off topic, sorry) Reading-Bristol (HST or IETs era), so you could get the full main path. From there, you could easily continue towards Cardiff/Swansea. Potentialy 2 new GWR routes here! But again, creating something from scratch!
PS. DTG Liam you're creating a masterpiece here , God job!

 

Caravatt Yes, Reading to Bristol would be a great route. It’s preferably doable in the build scale of 68 miles for DTG to do. Cardiff would be too far, but we both can dream

I don’t know if my post gave the opinion I wanted an older version of the GWR? Quite the opposite in fact, more modern the better.
It’s a shame the 800’s won’t be included in the remaster, even as AI or unbranded, but then again you need the length to fully appreciate the 800, which is why an extension is important.

 

Or they want more variety than a "sub variant" and choose to use that time to make whole new models instead.
A lot of the playerbase can't tell the difference and doesn't care about "subvariants."
It's meaningful to a few affecionados but not as appreciated as an entirely new loco or route is.
There's what.. 5 or 6 Class 47s in game and while the completionists are demanding every sub-variant, many just yawn and say "not ANOTHER Class 47!"

It's a very diverse fan base, so you can't make everyone happy.