Expert Br101 Gameplay Pack

so TSG just announced a new gameplay pack for SFS kassel-wurzburg and i gotta say im very happy that the ICE T and flixtrain vectron will finally layer onto this route and even a new free reskin for the br101 aswell which is always nice to have

 

Yes, totally hyped for this one! Looking at the pictures with wrong track ops and written order makes me want more

 

I hope there is more to come for the 101 like new timetables, I tried driving the default version a couple days ago and I just couldn’t do it lol

 

i also noticed that with the screenshot of the br101 pride month livery that ICE in the background doesnt liike like the usual ice 3 br403 bc that top part is very high which means that we might get the br407 maybe?

 

It’s the 411

 

yea just found out aswell bc of the round windows on the door bc the 407 has squared ones instead of round so MB

 

Wrong track running and written orders will be a treat and push the 101 even further towards realism (now more on a railway operational level instead of the focus on the technicalities of the loco). That’s great!

I’m not entirely sold on a new timetable though because of the recent issues on consoles. I still can’t run the expert 101 on Frankfurt - Fulda on PS5 as the game crashes every time - the 101 tips the route over the edge into crashing. I’d like to have confirmation that this timetable was properly tested on consoles.

 

That sounds great; aren't we still waiting on a batch of over 50 bug fixes for the 101 Expert Loco itself though? (I'm referring to this: https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...leshooting-steps-and-bug-fixing-status.83596/) I haven't been able to finish the first set of guided activities due to one of these bugs.

 

I believe it was confirmed on discord that these fixes will finally be released in prep for this pack…

 

btw an off topic question but can you actually buy the expert br101 without owning salzburg-rosenheim bc i dont have rosenheim sadly but i do have nahverkehr dresden where it also layers onto

 

Yes.

 

Yes! You can have it and it layers everywhere it should layer, given that you own the routes (but you don't need every single one)

 

There's a Discord instance?

 

alr thanks for youre answer the only routes i currently dont have is the new frankfurt s bahn mittenwald and salzburg and thats only it so

 

It will be free for who's already have the SKW and the DB br 101 Expert?

 

No.

 

There is a TSW discord channel:

https://discord.com/invite/train-sim-world-community-774983112597569588

 

I hope the br 101 suspensions will come with this gameplay pack

 

What is free in 2025 ? xD

 

Why is there this fetish for everything being "free?"
No, it's NEW stuff they created.
They had to pay people to make it.
You don't get free gas and repairs for your car forever just because you bought it years ago.
Do those people deserve to work for free?
We can argue over what is worth the cost... but unless you support slavery don't expect everything in life to be "free."
Someone has to make everything and they deserve to be paid for it.
If what they ask is too much, then just don't buy it.
EXPECTING things to be "free" is just selfish.

Do you go to work every day for free?

 

People not familiar with the software industry still conflate support with new features. Yes, support should generally be free for some length of time beyond its “go live” date (but not forever).

When new projects are undertaken that don’t involve fixing something, they add features to the product, they improve the value of the product, etc… those generally shouldn’t be expected to be free. I don’t really blame people for being confused though

 

Yes. If there are bugs in the Expert 101, they should be fixed for free.
New scenarios are not a "bug."
=-)

 

Why are u replying me?

 

The pride livery is for free, that should please a lot of people

And I can imagine with that DLC they might bundle some bug fixing with it.

 

lol lost time because its already on the in game sharetool

 

The Bus has multiple free Lines and Busses

 

Tbf early access games sometimes operate a little differently since they’re not finished products

 

Because you were joking about nothing being free in 2025. It was part fo the same discussion =-)

 

So basically we get the bug fixes and the new livery for free.

But if you want the new timetable, featuring new trains that are not on ths original timetable, which we know is alot of work and time consuming you have to pay.

So yeah I get why we are paying for this thats fair and we don't even know the price yet sonwe can't say its too much.

To me "this is not the DLC you are looking for" it should be the HSP46 pack on Boston Sprinter.

Right now it sounds like all they are doing is adding the HSP as a substituition in the existing timetable with a few sce arios thrown in.

No word on if its a new timetable and if the signalling will be fixed. That DLC seems to be the cash grab.

 

Bear in mind the expert 101 (which I don’t own) will probably be in the 40% discount price zone come the Steam sale in a few weeks time. So that might sweeten the deal a little.

 

Especially if you consider that its nornal on german routes to let all locos substitute if they are somewhat fitting.

On Boston this is sold as Gameplay pack.

 

It is a bit weird. It's not as far as I can tell even a different loco. It's the same company, same engine.... not like it's a modification or even different livery. I get that there's more "scenarios" but there's a limit to what JUST scenarios can get you.
Let's say... a dollar each at most depending on quality?
My question is... who is this FOR?
Who was demanding more scenarios for that route and loco combination?
Not that they can't make it and sell if for a few bucks...it just seems like an odd choice that no one was asking for.
It's low hanging fruit in that it's very cheap to make... but also probably low profit too, so it's not super "profitable."
For that reason I can't really call it a "cash grab."
That would mean something you thought would sell well, and this... nah.
Again, I could be wrong. There could be a huge silent bunch of people quietly overjoyed for this, but MBTA was kinda "meh" reception compared to other routes.
Scenario packs without new locos do exist (esp on TSC) but they're usually very cheap as a result.

At least the 101 is a bit unique in that they are more in depth with faults and such and it brings a new livery, etc.

The MBTA thing is just.... odd.

 

I know DTG are petrified of touching BML, but a Class 700 (with sounds sorted) Gameplay pack integrated with the timetable would be a far bigger hit and most of us would be happy to drop > £5 £10 < for something along those lines.

 

The reason given by DTG at the time in TSW 3 was that it would mean "too many services on that route." Causing.... "issues."
I can see it as a substitution perhaps... but the issue of adding more new layers or a bigger timetable does seem to still exist, especially for BML.

Dunno if that would require a different livery or not too, or if scenarios would be an option.

Now if just substitutions are what is being asked for...then it should go on a couple other routes too.