Xc/wmr 170 Is Being Developed By Rivet Games

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  1. matjamcar

    matjamcar Active Member

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    Having watched the stream and seeing the timetable, I’m impressed. Tyler has done a good job on the timetable, so I’ll more than likely buy the DLC when it’s available.
     
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  2. trainsimplayer

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    Assuming it'll be existing trains in a similar way to this, my hopes would be:
    LNER HST/Class 800 and/or ScR HST for Fife Circle (unlikely given the Skyhook timetable)
    Valenta HST for West Cornwall
    Class 171 for East Coastway
     
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  3. TrackingTrains

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    I hope that it isn't the FCL one, unless it'll build on the skyhook timetable as a base. I just want like one very detailed timetable for routes. Fine to have like base, iteration 1 (built from and better than base), iteration 2 (built from and better than iteration 1) though etc.

    Just don't want it like - this timetable for a rail tour, this one for a 158 and 170, this one if you want the 801 if you know what I mean
     
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  4. Strat-tastic

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    They say that hill start brake has been added, but it's already on the ScotRail 170.
     
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  5. Midnight

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    What they mean is:

    "The hill start brake might actually work now.... maybe. Unless you look funny at it."

    This is Rivet Games, remember?
     
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  6. eMAyTeeTee

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    Absolute waste of a response when you could have been constructive instead of being passively aggressive about it
     
  7. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    Blame inflation lol ;)
     
  8. TSW Nathan

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    It's a fair amount of stops. Probs 10 iirc. But yeah, other routes would be better. Personally I'd like to see the Glasgow south Western or west Highland line but I'll take what I can get tbh
     
  9. trainsimplayer

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    Is the passive aggressiveness in the room with us right now?
     
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  10. krustynuggets

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    In the room, I'm dam sure it's the landlord of these virtual halls, it's inescapable.......
     
  11. flukey#4378

    flukey#4378 Active Member

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    Nothing against the developer but as a PC user and with a mod TT already for the BCC with the 170s, this is a wait for it to go 50% + on a sale type of DLC... if they added it to MML, and or had the EMR 170s as well for ECML then I might have considered it but despite some updates for me its like rehashing a train which has already been in the game for sometime which is a typical TSW MO!
     
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  12. bakedpotatos.jm

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    Except the mod does not have proper headlights or interiors.

    And considering the majority of players are on console and don't have access to mods its not a crazy idea at all.

    If you don't like it you don't have to buy it, not every DLC will appeal to everyone.
     
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  13. Doomotron

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    The timetable is the most interesting thing in this by far. They've ticked off another variant of the Class 170 (loads more to go), but until the sounds are improved the price will be hard to swallow.

    If I'm being really pedantic, they're missing the London Midland prototype interior that was applied to only one or two of their 170s. It doesn't affect the pack in any way, but it would have been nice to have.
     
  14. bakedpotatos.jm

    bakedpotatos.jm Well-Known Member

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    I thought they said the sounds were redone and they sounded better on the stream.

    Q: Have the 170 running sounds been improved/fixed?
    A: Yes, we have heard the feedback and improved the running sounds. The internal running sounds have had a complete overhaul and authentic sounds from a 170 have been implemented. This alongside the creaks add ambience to the 170 whereas before it was quite silent in the cab

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  16. byeo

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    The hill start does work, I tested it in a scenario yesterday.
     
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  17. pveezy

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    I am past the point of ever expecting core fixes with a new TSW. They usually just import the old bugs with a new splash screen.
     
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  18. Doomotron

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    Something I noticed while I was editing a video. When you download the screenshots from the latest article, the filename for one of them starts with TSW3. It's probably just a coincidence though.
     
  19. Clumsy Pacer

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    Profile was made in TSW3 probably. Mine save as "TSW3_[...]". If it's not that, then I guess all screenshots taken with Ctrl+F12 save as "TSW3_[...]"
     
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  20. opark

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    Not sure if anyone cares, but there is some service variation with this DLC with a few WMT peak hour services stopping at Barnt Green.
     
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    So the 170 sounds at full speed have in fact not been fixed despite it being explicitly stated in the preview stream that they were.

    What are we doing here? Why are DTG just letting Rivet flat out lie to customers. This is just absolutely appalling practice.
     
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  22. shredder

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    Wasn’t it something about the engines or turbo shutting off once it hits 85mph?
     
  23. parder#4923

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    Yeah if you listen carefully Tyler said there is a planned fix for that which is also for the Fife Circle 170.
     
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  24. Clumsy Pacer

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    It's not like the sounds have been completely untouched - it's not nearly silent when coasting for example. The whine above 85 is still there. I will say, my speakers are terrible so I don't get much detail in it and I refuse to play with headphones due to the stutters and associated distortion.

    I am, however, massively enjoying the new timetable.
     
  25. Doomotron

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    I bought it, drove it for a little while, listened to the sounds which were nothing like a real 170, then refunded it.

    Remember: if you're going to make a train with a distinctive sound, you must get that sound right. The Thomson Interactive Class 170 for TS was a better (but still bad) attempt. At best the TSW 170 sounds like a Class 156. Way off.
     
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  26. MarkCovz4761

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    I did the same plus you cant drive it very far which is a disappointment
     
  27. Doomotron

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    My plan was to use it and the ScotRail 170 as surrogate Class 171s on the East Coastway, but with no sound mods there wasn't a reason to keep it. I'm sure the timetable is nice, but to me the pack is a £13 timetable with a free train. That's an offer that I can refuse.
     
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  28. tootyhoot

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    I’m happy with the mod in all honesty and resent giving that lot my money.
     
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  29. mati147014

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    Can someone provide a status with what bugs are there for now on PC with the addon? I am wondering wether I should get this or wait till immersion breaking (for me) issues are fixed.
     
  30. Tom158826

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    If you think it sounds anything like a 156 you need to get your carer to adjust your hearing aids
     

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