Xbox State Of S-bahn Frankfurt Route

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  1. lexie

    lexie Active Member

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    What is the current state of the S-bahn Frankurt route on Xbox? I saw a post on here about crashes in the past, is this still the case? What about blurry textures on this route? I'm playing on Series S, but experiences about Series X are welcome too.

    Route is now available with 50% off, so maybe it's a good moment to buy.
     
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    drdavewatford Well-Known Member

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    I bought it earlier so I'll let you know!!
     
  3. lexie

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    Cool, thanks! You're playing on S or X?
     
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    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    I play on xbox x without problems dont get wrong its a quite route because we dont get the layers. But still i nice little route with some traffic. Also if you are new to German routes its to practice pzb and sifa and short distance with lzb.
     
  5. lexie

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    Good to know you don't have issues. I know about the the reduced timetable, but also love S-bahn and the BR143.
     
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    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Also if you have frankfurt fulda route the ice train layers in aswell about 25 jobs i think.
     
  7. lexie

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    I don't have Frankfurt - Fulda, but TSW5 standard is on sale for €8,99 so it's a cheap option now. How is Frankfurt - Fulda doing nowadays, still crashing and blurry textures?
     
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    If anyone knows how often does crashes happen on this route aka is it worse than tsw 5 core Germany route?
     
  9. lexie

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    I suppose it's crashing less, because of the reduced timetable, but I also want to make sure if the state is good now.
     
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    K, only thinking about for now since it’s one of the few I don’t have
     
  11. lexie

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    Is Frankfurt - Fulda still crashing a year later? Do you play on the S or X?
     
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    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    I played it all day today no crashes and a little blurriness around frankfurt. On xbox x
     
  13. lexie

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    You play on 4K mode on Series X and have a lot of layers? As I understand it correctly from the faq, Series S does not have layers on Frankfurt - Fulda
     
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    I play on xbox x with 4k and all the layers enabled
     
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    So without layers on HD on Series S you would think it will work too.
     
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    I cant see why not. If you do buy it and ut doesn’t work just get a refund. You have 14 days after purchase I think.
     
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    Have and play this on Series X. Never had any performance issues or blurring with this route which is rare - while timetable is lifeless, I've still enjoyed the route itself.

    Performance is much, much better nowadays playing on Series X. I play this route with all layers and HD graphic settings and I've not experienced any video memory errors for Frankfurt-Fulda in a long while now compared with previous. However, blurry textures are still very frequent unfortunately.
     
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  18. lexie

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    Thanks, good to know Frankfurt S-bahn is working without issues. I understand the route is kind of lifeless without layers, no freight doesn't help either. But I even have fun on S-bahn Zentralschweiz with only one train, so with 3 trains it should be possible.
     
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    X series, honestly haven’t played the route a long time so can’t remember
     
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    It’s fine on series x. It only has one layer from Fulda. It’s not super busy but it’s busy enough. No blue or crashes.
     
  21. lexie

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    To answer my own questions, today I bought TSW5 standard edition for Frankfurt - Fulda. Well what can I say, I refunded it very quickly. On Series S, the framerate is low and very unstable. Don't come close to Frankfurt HBF, because it's even worse. I'm playing on a VRR screen, but this doesn't help much with how bad the performance is. Please note, on Series S there are no layers for this route, so there are only the trains you get with this route. After a refund, time to buy and try S-bahn Frankfurt route. Much better framerate here and more stable. Still the well know stutters, but it is playable. I'm kind of dissapointed with the shorts runs of the BR143 and BR423, but I like the BR430 and the fact you can do longer runs with this train. Atleast I'm having fun with this route, but some AI traffic is missing, like freight. In the end I can't say the quality of TSW is becoming better since the start, I still do prefer the early routes.
     
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    Helpful, thank you. I use the Series X and haven’t had Frankfurt Fulda crash on me since the launch of TSW 6 which is good news (it’s a shame about your experience, as it’s a really good route) - I would be keen to get Frankfurt S Bahn if there was the potential that the full timetable might one day be brought to the consoles. The layers are what make a German route for me, and having built up quite a large collection, it would be nice to use it in the timetable mode and not just free roam.

    On a more positive note, the (original) 101 is part of the current sale and I would thoroughly recommend it at the sale price. I’ve been blown away with the number of extra services it has made available across (I think) a total of 8 German routes in my collection, and of course it comes with the versatile IC coaches which have shed loads of liveries available from the creators club. Much to (re)discover with it!
     
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  23. lexie

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    I quite like S-bahn trains or emu/dmu in general. S-bahn Frankfurt reminds me of Rapid Transit, you see a lot of other S-bahn trains and only a few others. I also like frequent starting and stopping at stations, so for me much better then an ICE service. At least some more AI traffic on some parts of the route would be nice, but I don't expect it to happen.

    I do own the BR101, main issue is the popping sound on this loco. Otherwise I quite like the train, just like the BR103 on Linke Rheinstrecke.
     
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  24. lexie

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    I bought Kinzigtalbahn (with TSW5 standard edition) again after I refunded it earlier, mainly for the ICE-T on Frankfurt S-bahn. When on sale, I also want the Dutch route, the Vectron layers on that route. So two loco's for EUR 8,99 is a good deal.

    I now had some more time to test the Kinzigtalbahn, my earlier quick test was around Hanau and Frankfurt, I knew already this was the worse part of the route. I now did a few runs to Frankfurt HBF, one time the where almost no dosto's parked in the yard, the framerate was much better on the bridge, second time there where a lot of dosto's and the framerate was bad. On my initial test, there where a lot of dosto's too, when I had bad framerate. So it looks like those parked dosto's are causing trouble, but it depends on time of day how many dosto's there are parked.

    Around Hanau, I saw a few times blurry textures, on Vectrons but also on BR423's. When I came close, they loaded in correctly, but fron distance I saw a red blur.

    The rest of the route was working ok, between Fulda HBF and Hanau not really had issues, other then the usual stutters. So around Frankkfurt/Hanau it's as bad a discribed earlier, except when the dosto's are not parked in the yard at Frankfurt HBF (I think they're gone at rush hours), the framerate seems to be better without the parked dosto's.

    Based on earlier reports about crashes around the bridge, I can totally see why it happened at this point, the bridge has the worst FPS I've seen in any route and it really struggles.
     
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    I now own Dresden-Leipzig, the Kinzigtalbahn, and the Frankfurt S-Bahn routes.
    I hereby demand implementation of routes between Leipzig and Fulda, so I can drive the length of the ICE1650, from Dresden to Wiesbaden.
     
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    That would be cool and a long trip. Yesterday I did a run with the ICE-T from Fulda to Frankfurt HBF, that's almost 1 hour, Frankfurt HBF to Wiesbaden is also 45 minutes or so, don't know how long the rest of the trip will take.
     
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    The whole trips takes a little over 5 hours, and a ticket costs 150 euro in second class.
    In the game, we wouldn't be able to drive the whole route in one go, as you need to jump from route to route. I will try this: start the trip from Fulda towards Frankfurt in Kingzigtalbahn, then continue on foot and hop into the Frankfurt S-Bahn route, and find and drive the same train to Wiesbaden. This should work, and I will give it a try today.

    As far as additional routes needed to link it all up, I have no idea how feasible or profitable would be for DTG to add Leipzig to Fulda. Based on length, it could be 2 routes, maybe Leipzig to Erfurt, and then Erfurt to Fulda.
    ICE1650.png
     
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  28. lexie

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    Nice and thanks for the picture, make the whole route more clear, I'm not from Gemany. As the whole route is not possible, an other option is at Wiesbaden back to Mainz HBF, then hop on Linke Rheinstrecke and take the ICE 1 to Koblenz
     
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    I'm not from Germany either. I rode trains in Germany ages ago, before I took any interest in TSW, so not remember much about it. The only thing I remember is that I hated how slow and boring it seemed :)

    The route hopping and changing trains is one thing. What I am describing is driving the exact same train service across two routes.
     
  30. lexie

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    I understand.you want to do it with one and the same service. Crossing Germany by ICE seems fun to me too, however I'm more liking S-bahn drives with lot of stations.

    Slow and boring, then you're becoming older and you like slow and boring, something like that?
     
  31. Villalad

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    got it yesterday in the sale. i think £15 is decent value but it's definitely too quiet for full price. but it's a good level of 'busy' in terms of things to do (lots of speed changes and yellow signals)
    no performance issues for me either (xbox X)
     
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    Indeed to quiet on the big stations like Frankfurt and Mainz, Wiesbaden looks ok. But still fun to drive the BR430.
     

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