Tsw 7 - What You Want?

The new routes were a Rush Hour. Aside from nomenclature, the rollouts were very similar- including the re-download of all previously owned content. In fact, RH was a touch worse because it trashed almost all the TSW2 mods people had; 6 didn't do that.

 

TSRs and train faults are a better reason for an upgrade. Whether or not they work as intended doesn't matter, it's the idea of them that sells.

 

l agree with your comment about the pointless practice of releasing a “new” game every year.

This game needs properly fixing rather than releasing yearly games with the same issues and the laborious practice of having to reinstall all your content into a new game, which due to a slow non fibre internet service l receive, l am still doing continuous installing. I have bought everything for Xbox and for steam apart from Cardiff and Zwolle, so just purchased the special addition to get these two TSW5 routes only to find that they are not compatible for TSW5 as well only TSW6 l. I contacted support but by the time l got a response that l have to buy these two routes a third time l was unable to cancel my purchase for a refund. I won’t be doing that again. I have now lost confidence in DTG and cannot see them ever releasing a game edition that isn’t full of the same bugs as previously. As a pensioner l will limit my purchases now to only what l want in future.

 

The only Christmas present I want from dtg is for some of the games more serious issues to be fixed.

 

Well, if you want to view things from DTG's perspective, fine.

I post from a player viewpoint. I thought that's what the forums are for.

 

I can categorically state I can promise that I 100% am not waiting for a new version. I have enough content currently in my collection to not require to spend even £1 on new content unless it adds variety to my existing content. The idea of writing off my considerable investment in DTG products for a 2nd time and starting a scratch (again) will not ever happen. The saying goes something like fool me once shane on you, fool me twice shame on me. Transitioning from TSC to TSW was the first time I was fooled. They will not fool me a 2nd time in transiting to a new train simulator. Thanks but no thanks

 

The headline features will remain broken and unimplemented by the time TSW10 rolls around?

 

My idea would be to have the next version for example called "Trainsim world legacy",and make it the last on unreal 4 ,but keep supporting it with bug fixes and patches like when they used to have the preservation crew for all the older content,also maybe Keep it open for smaller or third party developers to still make something new,Then move over to a brand new version in unreal 5 (I think personally that subway rivals is a test for a new serious Trainsim)

 

Maybe you can make a full suggestion of train sim world legacy
because I'm more curious afterward

 

What are the issues?

 

If another game is released, it should be the last one, not a number, but a title. All new content should be released on the TSW if that's the focus.
And then it should also be the last reinstall.

 

Do you mean aoart from the blurry textures?, train faults happening every 39 seconds? Red lights preventing you from finishing services? Scenarios which are impossible to complete? Occasionally crashing? Poor FPS if there’s more than 2 other trains in your fov? Dynamic weather which results in thunderstorms 9 runs of out 10 in 9 months of the year? Driverless AI trains? Passengers jumping on tracks in front of you? Cars passing over crossings with barriers down? Flying cars?

yeah I don’t see any issues either

 

Yes,
those are clear issues.
They should at most resolve that,
and then whatever other issues might arise.

 

The difference is that TSC is still active thanks to several third-party developers who have free access to the program.
TSW is under the strict control of DTG.
If they decide to "pull the plug," the whole thing is over in a flash.
That means they could decide to stop publishing anything (or not allow it) at any time.

After all, the fact that many users are crammed with content (which is quite expensive, after all) is a given.
However, the feeling of having a program in a "vegetative" state is the thin line on which DTG can play its trump cards, with a new program (UE5) that everyone ends up buying, since there are no valid alternatives on the market.

 

A vegatative TSW would actually be an improvement right now, let’s not forget the DB Red vectron safety systems AP scoring is still broken following an update to include Netherlands safety systems months later. At least a completely abandoned TSW will mean nothing else will break

 

Not a lot more for me. Just train faults that were more like game bugs in actual fact as happened way too much and announcements on the new routes but not backporterd to the original routes or even forthcoming dlc it seems.
in fact I just went for the free upgrade so Un enamoured was I.

 

Get rid of route hopping and route merging with timetables corresponding for the relevant route.

Ideally a WCMLS extension Birmingham - London would be 10/10 for me with the Northampton loop.

I'm low-key waiting on the class 730 too!

Fixed announcements

 

The one thing DTG could introduce which would solve more issues than any other would be DLSS compatibility

 

I don't want TSW7. I want TSW 6.1 with bugs fixed.

 

Honestly just being able to replace the TAA with DLAA, yes pelase.

I do worry though for some of the locos with overly sensitive brakes that crash into emergency at the slightest overly long hold, if the added latency if they allowed frame gen may cause a bunch of complaints from users who keep shrieking to a halt on some routes and don't understand why.

 

Hallo,
Ich wäre für die Strecke Kassel Hannover mit dem ICE 2 (br402)

 

This. Going where it says on the front.

 

Please post in English!

 

Fast cam back on consoles (there was zero reasons for it to be removed in the first place)

 

I’d like to see TSW Heritage Railways with the Bluebell, SVR, KWVR and the NYMR plus an Ivatt 41241, a pannier and prairie tank with a Hall/Manor class all downloaded into TSW6. Lets, please stop this continuous installation of all our previous purchases which l believe causes the bugs. Train Sim Classic doesn’t do this, thank God!

 

Derby to Doncaster (Skyhook Games)
North Wales Coastal (Rivet Games Core Route for TSW7)
Wherry Lines (DTG In House with the FLIRT)

Class 156 DMU
Class 70 Diesel Locomotive
Class 195 DMU
Class 50 Diesel Locomotive (Just Trains backtrack DLC for Riviera Line with appropriate Timetable)

 

North Wales Coastal needs to be accurate so l don’t want RIVET to do it. They have shown time and again that they are inadequate at route development.

 

DTG to evolve the game not the name each year

 

WCMLs is accurate, so is Riviera. Both developed for DTG by Rivet.

 

My ideal TSW 7 would be:

Routes:
Route: Chatham Main Line: London Victoria - Dover Western Docks (Class 411)
Loco DLC: Class 73

Route: Vogelfluglinie: Lubeck - Puttgarden (BR 605)
Loco DLC: DSB IC3

Route: Ludington Subdivision: Ludington - Grand Rapids (GP9)
Loco DLC: SW9

New Features:
Substituting custom formations into timetable services
Improved free roam (integration with PIS, announcements, cargo loading, etc)
Improved formation designer (cargo loading)

New Training Center Train:
Class 166 (with livery designer support)

 

What about the recent routes which apparently are by Rivet. WCL was TSW2, I agree it was poor, the worse TSW route as far as I am concerned, but is it not time to let go?

 

Pretty sure the 166 is getting livery designer support with the remaster but who knows

 

I’d like to see what I just recently discovered: That if you buy an older DLC say, for TSW6, the game still shows that you have to pay for earlier game versions of that same DLC. I really think that needs to change. I hope that can be fixed.

 

TSW 1-5 it used be the case if you brought it for the current version you got it for the older versions as well, this stopped with TSW6. That being said - I don't think I've ever gone back to a previous version once I've upgraded...

 

My ideal core routes:

Southampton Central to Weymouth (Class 444 & 450)
Loco DLC: Class 442 + pre-2007 timetable

Berlin S9 line (DB 481, 482, 442, 182)
Loco DLC: DB 483 & 484

Amsterdam Centraal & Amsterdam Zuid to Rotterdam Centraal (VIRM, ICM, SNG)
Loco DLC: SLT

My ideal features, not including essential core optimisations:
"Virtual guard" where the guard buzzes twice once doors are shut where applicable.
"In-cab route-hopping" where you can continue the service in the exact same unit on two separate routes where the timetables overlap.
Better flange squeal and track joint sounds across the board.
Rail singing be a feature on all routes.

Third-Party routes I'd like to see:

Just Trains: London Liverpool Street to Ipswich (1990) (Class 312, 315). A DBSO could be added as an update to the already existing class 86 DLC for use on this route.
Follow-up DLC: Class 321

All Aboard Studios: ECML South (Class 91, 800, 801, 717, 700, 387, 379)

Firefly Studios: London Charing Cross & Cannon Street to Hastings (2004) (Class 423, 375, 465, 466)

 

No, route merging isn't the solution, this is a solution from the past, which was already far from ideal in TS.
Route hopping could be fine... in the future.

 

I doubt DTG would go down that route. Although they have stopped working on TSC, they have released a few third-party payware DLC on the steam store. It's a win-win situation for them, they don't have to develop anything and they get a cut of the sale.

 

Ok, I do not own all DLCs, but if I want to purchase some of the older DLCs, I won't purchase the TSW6 version, I buy the TSW5 version and port it over. That way you can have the DLC in 1 to 5, but if you buy the TSW6 version it won't go backwards. However, for the brand new stuff it is locked to TSW6.

 

Nürnberg - Ingolstadt or Nürnberg - Würzburg

 

I think the Vogelfluglinie or Frankfurt–Köln on the German side would be great. However, an absolute killer route would be Děčín (Czech Republic) to Dresden along the scenic Elbe Valley (Elbtal). It would be a border-crossing route, very scenic, connects to Dresden–Leipzig, and features freight, S-Bahn, regional, and long-distance services. New rolling stock for the route could include the brand-new ČD ComfortJet. Furthermore, the new Czech developer could later create additional Czech locomotive packs for this route.

On the British side, I would like to see something like Thameslink, c2c, or another scenic GWE route.

On the USA side, the Pacific Surfliner would be great.

 

Something that warrants releasing a completely new title. Half-baked features like temporary speed restrictions and signal delays don't cut it.

DLSS/FSR/XESS, graphics improvements, and bug fixes would be a great start. Get the game up to modern standards.

 

I too would welcome Diesel Legends of Angus and Aberdeen

 

Holy beep yes!, my home station and the better era

 

* I've said enough on UK releases and the Eastern Region bonanza that's coming later in 2026 and into 2027.

* Germany, would love an S-bahn line in Berlin, I assume the skyline of Berlin and elevated section through the middle would test TSW to its limits though.

*Curve-ball nation surprise for 2027 - France, Limoges to Toulouse - regional rail services, EMU stoppers and freight. Lots of great scenery and testing gradients.

* USA. I leave this one to the experts.

New feature 1 - Live weather to go with an improved weather and other environmental improvements such as leaves and litter blowing in the wind, proper mist behaviour, improved cloudscapes, frost, realistic thunderstorm behaviour, better snow and rain effects. And better environment/traction interaction like realistic wheel slip, trackside water incursion and more arcing when icy.

New feature 2 - Improved driver experience. Hot key to your "shift card", stopping patterns that appears bottom left of screen as if you're holding it, maybe replacing what happens when you press "T" now. Option to start your shift outside the staff room at your home station or depot and walk to the cab for any selected Timetable service. Sometimes it's the little adjustments that can make the immersion different.

New improved - Passengers. An overhaul must be on the way at some point soon, surely. I want old couples, young couples, families, the occasional pet, people dressed-up and going out for the night, wearing bobble hats and scarves on the way to the game, mostly sober suits work outfits in the peaks, more dress-down at other times. Match types of passenger to the time of the day. Shorts and t-shirts in the summer, big coats, hats and other warming accessories in Winter. Make it look more like a functioning railway than the occupants of a coachload of office people on their way to an "outward-bound" activity week.
Oh and active/responsive track workers, look-outs, getting a wave when you let them know you're approaching. Some hi-vis guys walking the track on a visual check.

 

I think you are being very optimistic!!

However, I would certainly agree with the more realistic wheelspin and think surely it would not be that hard to implement?

At the moment it is a bit of a joke with how it works.

 

With the update that was pushed to all RTX cards today for DLSS 4.5 and dynamic frame gen coming in the spring on RTX 5xxx cards, I see this as even more of a necessity now. It's time we bring a game that's being reissued every year, up to the current technological standards of 2026! Sadly, with something that should be the standard being on a survey for players to vote for, with a lot of casual players not knowing what that is, I'm sure it won't be the highest voted though... :/

 

I'm among them.
So if you want, you can explain this, here or in another thread !

 

Happy to explain!

DLSS, FSR, and XESS are upscaling technologies from NVIDIA, AMD, and Intel respectively. They all do basically the same thing: instead of your graphics card rendering the game at full resolution, it renders at a lower resolution first, then uses algorithms (or AI, in DLSS's case) to intelligently scale the image back up. Your GPU does less work, your frame rate goes up, and if the upscaling is good (which has improved immensely in today's update, especially with MOTION, you barely notice the visual difference. (Huge benefit for games like TSW)

The newer versions also include frame generation, which creates entirely new frames between the ones your GPU actually renders. So if your system is outputting 60fps natively, frame generation can push that to 120 or higher.

Funny timing though, NVIDIA just announced DLSS 4.5 today at CES. It's a second generation transformer model for their Super Resolution tech, with better image quality, reduced ghosting, and sharper edges. Available now in beta through the NVIDIA app for all RTX card owners. They're also adding 6X Multi Frame Generation and Dynamic Multi Frame Generation for RTX 5xxx Series cards this Spring. That's really why I see this as more of a necessity than a "nice to have" at this point.

Here is a video:

Nvidia's New Article: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforc...i-frame-gen-6x-2nd-gen-transformer-super-res/

 

I did send a note to support. I really think this is highly unfair, especially given that you have to port everything up. The reverse should work as well.

 

Aberdeen Angus??? Sounds like a load of old bull to me