PC Class 90 Announced

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  1. bogallan1

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    That’s the whole point - individuals should not be abusing DMs, criticism yes, frustration, but not insults. It does show a lack of maturity.
     
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  2. Mich

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    Hate to be cynical, but that's not news, there's tons of immature people in the world, at a certain point it's more mature to just accept that they exist and just ignore them. Acknowledging them in this won't stop that, case and point, I think this is like the third time in the past two years I've seen them bring this up. To the wrong circles it can actually embolden people, if they're goal is to get reactions out of people. And it also creates the issue that people who are more reasonable might take it the wrong way.
     
  3. theorganist

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    Personal responsibility does not exist anymore.

    People are abusive because it's someone else's fault apparently. So nasty DTG are driving people to be abusive. That seems to be the argument anyway, especially by those who seem to be excusing this behaviour or certainly not speaking against it.

    Still when the forums are completely abandoned, that will be DTGs fault too.
     
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  4. tof70110

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    Hi everyone,
    Thanks for your suggestion: (you're all idiots) it's always a pleasure.

    Indeed, we'll go far with this kind of helpful and necessary "problem-solving" response [], sorry, this isn't a personal attack, but if I follow your reasoning, there's no point in following official releases. How do we know if a DLC is any good? Do you know something we all don't???

    Personally, I find this kind of reasoning totally stupid on both sides. It's like treating everyone like ignorant idiots and then looking down on others. If that's not disrespectful, then yes, we've reached new heights. Anyway, I'm going to look for information elsewhere because this is bordering on the ridiculous for some people, and I wish you all a good weekend and a quick update.

    Best regards, tof

    [PS: This is my personal opinion and therefore only reflects my own views, thank you in advance]
     
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  5. candacedtg

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    I'm also not saying that I don't want you to reply or bring issues up. I make a lot of tickets, and most of you know that. I'm just saying, please keep the critiques, conversation, and replies constructive.
     
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  6. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Do you know when the patch for this is releasing . Thanks
     
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  7. bakedpotatos.jm

    bakedpotatos.jm Well-Known Member

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    I never said don't follow I said don't "purchase" day 1. That will give you time to review many different points of view before you purchase.

    Also if you want them to change their release ways of lots of bugs and want better QA the best thing to do is for a big chunk of the player base to stop buying stuff day one.

    If day 1 sales drop by even 30% it would be enough for them to notice and realize maybe we should change our practices.

    Not just with DTG every company. I don't think I've bought a game this year where I haven't had to wait a week after release for a patch to fix game breaking bugs.

    So I don't see any reason unless there is a pre-order discount to buy anything day 1. Its not like they will sell out of copies anymore.

    And if you are buying day 1, especially with DTG's track record your just inviting yourself to be dissapointed.
     
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  8. theorganist

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    It's the same people buying on day one and then they seem the most aggressive when it comes to complaining. Some clearly can't control themselves.

    I even watched a stream or two of Medway before I bought it, even though it seemed a safe bet it would be fine.

    Maybe that's why I don't get so angry and get called puerile names like fanboy.

    I'll buy the 90 when it is updated and maybe even then I'll wait to see what they are doing regarding timetables.

    It looks great and I'm sure it's a case of when not if I purchase it.
     
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  9. maxipolo12

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    For sure I'm going to buy the class 90 too but not before more timetables come.
    In this state it's absolutely not worth it.
    The class 90 had to be the masterclass of UK stuff like the 101 or the vectron were.

    And what we have ?
    No engine room (ok)
    Poor Sounds
    Poor substitutions
    Poor textures
    Bugs on key features

    I don't understand how it is possible in the episode 6 or tsw
    Eventually could it happen by the 1 or 2.
    But after 6 episodes we the customers can't accept this low level of stuff anymore.
     
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  10. marcsharp2

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    Don't forget the oh is realistic interaction with a sticker to activate a safety system.
     
  11. Mich

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    Yeah, no, I flat out disagree, there's still plenty of games that come out without game breaking issues. Just speaking in the sim space, SCS consistently release quality products that from day one are polished, to the point that even the few times I've used the beta branch the game I never encountered anything game breaking. Or heck, I bought into Railroader within weeks of its release into early access, and despite being label frankly the game never proved to have any notable issues. There absolutely still are well made games coming out, you just aren't playing them.
     
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  12. maxipolo12

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    yep i meant this by bugs of key features ^^
     
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  13. maxipolo12

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    The new 147, which comes also with a new timetable seems to be a much better investment for example.
     
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    At least it's a safety sticker :)
     
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  15. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    There is no need to be rude like that think you could better then go for it.
     
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  16. marcsharp2

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    That's a bit harsh mate.
     
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  17. theorganist

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    Why on earth would you even think of reacting like this? It's extremely childish.

    They have hardly failed, the Manchester route is very well made, if not as long as it could have been. The class 90 will be better when they release the fixes for it. It still looks like a very good model.

    You might try fixing your full stop key.
     
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  18. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    I manchester route its great if I wanna kill half or hour.
     
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    [Deleted; insulting - DTG Harry] The 90 is horrific, but they are working hard to fix it. MAC was actually a really decent route!
     
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  20. aaronthomas1a

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    Well, I am sorry for been mean but see how bad the 90 make me mad hope to have a great GEML route with a great 90 with a dvt 315 321 and 360 pre crossrail era
     
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  21. randomshunter

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    By the time a patch drops for the class 90, it might be on discount in the Summer sale, so probably best to wait if you haven't already bought it

    XBOX and Playstation patches cost money to push out, and they have to go through evaluation.

    Could be a long wait.
     
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    Was there a mention of a mod coming for the 90 on PC? Any ideas when we can expect it or if I’ve just misread an earlier post?
     
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    I believe ATS said they are releasing a texture mod for PC to improve the looks. I can't remember when it will release though, I'd assume around the time when the improvement update releases.
     
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  24. flukey#4378

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    For those with the class 90 on PC, OTS just updated their 2019 WCML sth TT to include 18 services of the 90 taking their grand total playable services for this DLC to 1556!
     
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    As said this loco is highly awaited, and not to be wasted for just a subpar fire and forget release.

    Totally questionable approach for choosing the traction type. I would have prefered a route or wagon pack, nothing can go wrong with that.

    Here i have hope somehow that JT building his own version for an appropriate route, hopefully with engine room and dvt dlc ;)

    And in that very case, you will be aporeciate if the worthy class 90 is implemented and subed into tsws uk timetables.

    Bottom of the line, im skipping this dlc no matter what.
     
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  26. maxipolo12

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    That would be for sure nice but well i have some doubts about it
     
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    That is great, though as I have said elsewhere in the forum (after gently mocking console players) that it is a sad state of affairs when we rely on modders to fix things in their own free time rather than the people actually paid to make the DLC in the first place, naturally I understand there being some limitations brought on by licensing etc... That OTS have done this however is a big plus, it's another incentive to actually buy the 90 eventually but I'm still holding off until it is both fixed and improved.

    Still, it's now over three weeks since the initial release and bugger all has happened aside from people getting angry, others getting sensitive and others becoming too rude and a thread deteriorating into name-calling, not a good look from quite a few parties there :/
     

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