London Commuter - Update Forecast?

Friends, Good morning. I would like to be informed if there will be any updates that fix at least the main LBN flaws? Because I've never been so excited to play a line and upset that I can't complete some courses. I reiterate that the line is really beautiful and well made, but we players are annoyed with the flaws contained in it, I believe that if they called some players to test before, certainly many would participate... TrainSim-Matt DTG JD

 

So far the silence has been deafening...

 

Dresden should be done first . In a perfect world, there will be a patch mending both

 

It's my friends, I agree with you, a deafening and excruciating silence. But looking at it the other way around, and maybe that cheers me up, as the last time they were silent for a considerable time, they announced LBN for Oct/07 instead of Oct/14. Knowing a little bit, there should be an update tomorrow to make the old Stock Undergrond DLC compatible, so I believe they will spend all day to release this fix together for Dresden and LBN, I have made a complete dossier on the Dresden failures, and how (in my opinion) the BR 101 makes it unstable. Let's wait and have faith in DTG.

 

Replys?

 

And you’ll want to make that 3 rush hour updates as we currently have no speedo displays on Boston

 

Quite frankly, I’m a little surprised DTG hasn’t announced some sort of action plan to let us know what steps they are taking to get things resolved. In my opinion, whilst all three rush hour routes look awesome, they are simply riddled with issues and not fun to play. On top of this, PS5 players have a substantial limitation to the DLC we can play without having to delete more and more routes. I don’t like that things are so quiet. On the other hand, talking doesn’t fix things and that’s the absolute priority. Fix fix fix.

 

And yet they are still happy to market new products. Says it all really. We have the 187 and 1938 stock coming this Thursday with the West Cornwall line and 313 already being promoted. Other than the 313 I won't be buying anything else until we see some substantial rush hour and PS5 DLC fixes.

 

There is substantial work being done to address some of the problems that have come up during the release of Rush Hour but the process to turn these around isn't a quick one. The initial evaluation of the causes of problems players have reported takes time to complete after which fixes have to be written and the code then retested to ensure that any fix doesn't create problems elsewhere.

During this period there isn't much information that can be given beyond "we're working on it", and it's every bit as frustrating for us as it is for you.

As soon as there's anything concrete to report we'll let you know.

 

Of course . Thanks for the reminder .

 

Hi @dtgprotagonist thank you very much for the feedback, we are happy to at least be working, processing the information and struggling to correct it, we know it takes work, but we trust your work. I can make an analogy with aviation, where the captain doesn't keep talking about everything he's going to do, whether it's rushing, doing a specific maneuver, because first the work, then the communication. We just ask that, if possible, keep us updated periodically, to know where we are with all this, a hug!

 

Folks, it's important to remind you that there are two threads opened by Matt in the PC discussion, to inform you in as much detail about the problems that occurred in Dresden and in BML, look and help so that we can have our dear simulator working accordingly.

 

DTG need to stop releasing dlc and focus on released routes. This is beyond ridiculous. DTG can no longer be trusted. They are taking us for mugs. I have defended them in the past, but have now come to the realisition that they do not care. DTG say they check for bugs prior to release. I'm calling bs on that, as they could have very easily picked them up prior to release.No more excuses DTG, stop rripping us off and actually focus! I am so sick of half arsed dlc that i paid alot for, that has more bugs eveytime a dlc is released. I've lost my patience, enough is enough.

 

This route is easily my favourite route and yes there are a few bugs around London Victoria in particular, but it is not stopping me from playing it as I find it very enjoyable. Bugs are expected with new releases but I don't think it wouldn't take too long to fine tune these as I think this route will be your flagship route.

 

[removed by Protagonist - unnecessarily combative]

 

2 years ago I was very much against the sentiment of ‘stop all work and catch up’, 1 year ago I was on the train of thought that DTG would eventually end up with so much faulty content that they’ll grind to a halt.

Now, DTG have pushed out 3 large routes, an engine upgrade, 2 (3?) new builds of the game onto new platforms, significant new features, obscenely adventurous timetables with no in depth QA for them, they are currently dealing with having to circumvent how their DLC is intergrated to the game on PS5, coming up with ground breaking solutions for not bricking Gen8 consoles whilst also trying to push their boundaries, implanting a brand new audio system for Xbox, and doing god knows what else we don’t know about, all at the same time.

Yet they still don’t seem to be taking very seriously to maybe focusing on game wide critical fixes & quality of life improvements, instead they only seem to be ramping up their content production, Adams team has already had to re-strategise their aims, because they cannot keep up with implementing improvements and fixes on past routes, so I wish good luck to the core team in fixing all these issues, because everytime an update or piece of content is pushed, there seems to be some sort of significant issue, and I’m not talking about missing landmarks or dodgy looking planes.

Right now getting TSW 2 into a stable state seems like a pretty unlikely scenario so hopefully over the next couple of months DTG will show us some commitment to their products, because since 4.26 released it’s been an absolute shambles.

 

This: I was very surprised to see the announcements of this weeks streams and it was like nothing had happened and the game is as it is. I know that is not the case but this weeks streams are about trying to sell me something. I had an open wallet. But my wallet has closed for now. I need to see some improvements before I open my wallet again.

 

Yes, how dare they having fun!

 

While it is good to hear from DTG that they're collating our issues together, more is needed to reassure us what they're plans are. I like to play on journey mode, and I can't progress on BML due to game crashes. I almost exclusively play on UK routes and I'm struggling to find something to play that doesn't have problems, to name a few (some of these are not bugs, more pain points):

• The rush hour/preservation changes to Bakerloo has moved stopping markers at some stations.
• The obvious looping sounds (i.e. AWS) on the ECW class 377 and SEHS 375 is now so jarring and immersion breaking after the fantastic sounds on BML's 377 & 387
• Cathcart seems to have some immersion breaking lighting issues, on several attempts night time lighting has just seems to stop at some point to all scenery being lit with no shadows, not to mention to terrible night time lighting on this route.
• Playing scenarios on GWE, ECW, etc where immersion controls have not been unlocked is frustrating and trips me up constantly.

I appreciate that self-publishing with no subscription model means that DTG cannot stop releasing new DLC. They've got to pay salaries somehow, but I do feel that now is a good time for them to take a moment to focus their teams on fixing the backlog of issues they have with the game and platforms, let their 3rd party developers take the limelight for new stuff a while. But most importantly, I think we need a "state of bugs" stream, where they address the issues we're reporting in and give us something more than "we're working on it".

 

Even a BR 101 fix? That's nice to hear. I'm already less disgruntled

 

Hi JD, do you have details of what the patch will include?

 

Good let’s hope it’s sorted soon as I’m holding back my £24.99. I’ll play on other DLC till then!!

 

Fantastic. Fingers crossed this includes a fix that prevents the crashing of BML, either way I'll be giving BML another whirl later.

 

I have to ask - on behalf of everyone as well as myself. It’s a straight question and I’d like a straight answer.

Q. Why would DTG release a route with so many major issues? Surely with even the most basic of testing these would have been flagged, I’m flabbergasted that the route can have passed through QA and green lit for release in its current state.

 

Without trying to sound ungrateful, I’d there any news on a fix for the Boston speedos (lack off)

 

How many of these issues could have been identified if you had user acceptance testers, as a user I would certainly be willing to test before release!

 

Yes I would too

 

^This is the type of update that I want to see more of JD. Especially on some of the bugs that are crashing the game on Dresden and London Commuter. Just saying hey here are the major bugs and hey we think we may have identified the issue here, we are currently testing or something goes a long way. This is one gripe that pops up in the kickstarters I back that sometimes all people want is an update even if it is hey we are alive and working on this but there is nothing to update. Goes a long way.

 

If the disappearing DB 101 comes back and doesn’t crash timetable on Riesa Dresden, then I’ll be happy for now. Fingers Crossed!

 

DTG JD Good morning, thank you very much for your feedback, it's gratifying to see that you are working to fix it, I got emotional playing LBN because until then ECW was my favorite route. Please, I ask you to review the points that I highlighted in the forum that Matt opened, for LBN and especially in Dresden, as I raised a comprehensive report to help you, moreover, congratulations on the work and thanks for everything. We await the solutions.

 

Any idea on the Xbox cab texture glitch fix? ( try saying that 10 times fast)

We are coming up on 2 months without a fix. Any news good or bad would be appreciated.

 

Thanks very much.

 

This !!!!

 

Great news that at least some fix is being pushed out immediately.

 

20h (GMT 0) and we still don't have the promised update, is it for tomorrow?

 

JD wrote today or tomorrow so I guess it will be tomorrow. I'm happy either way if it fixes some major bugs.

 

Yeah, let's wait until tomorrow, hopefully at the very least the stuck AI trains and the sound of the locomotives are fixed in LBN, as they are the most critical, and perhaps the easiest to fix.

 

I just finished the first full run in journey mode on PS5, get into Brighton, open the doors and the game crashes.... What? I've deleted DLC that worked for this.

 

Nothing to do with him enjoying it. Everything to do with him basically saying “it’s ok to release a route that doesn’t work”.

 

I was hoping that someone from DTG might respond to this….

 

You can't just put random words in their mouth, how egotistical to think someone is part of the problem only for not being your opinion.
For all we know they could be upset with the issues but still have fun playing their content. And what is wrong about that?

 

Just tried running Chapter 1 journey 1W30 after updating my game today. The game crashed to the PS5 main menu before reaching Clapham Junction. I had just come down the hill having gone over the Waterloo line (I believe) and hadn’t yet reached the big poster board.

Report submitted to Sony. I’m not even going to bother trying anything else now, the London Commuter route is unplayable/too unreliable on PS5.

 

True. Crashing to the PlayStation Home Screen is quite a fun pastime.

 

On a positive note. The long running issue with the DB BR 101 going missing and crashing Riesa Dresden, looks to be resolved. I was able to launch timetable services successfully. When I quit the game and went back in, the 101 is still there.

Bad that the issue happened at all, but happy it’s fixed.

 

Performance on the BML seems improved too, finally able to run the ‘slow way home’ scenario that crashed everytime at Clapham Junction for me.

Also just hopped into London Vic at 8:30am and got a consistent 30fps, even out towards Battersea Park, which would dip as low as 12fps for me previously.

Edit: Sigh, never mind just crashed at Victoria.